Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly I do think your recent content is alright
You’re definitely the weakest full SR I have it’s just I kinda am concerned you’re gonna pockit me again

lol

i feel like i'm nothing like that game but that was also an anonymous game where i was playing deliberately off-meta so it's probably moot

That game isn’t all there is my concern here. I could see you angling towards townreading me from a mile away, so I instantly went shields-up when it came to trusting you here. There’s definite room to change my mind but I think that’s best done through action vs. explanation.

[Gypyx]

uh, gonna catch up fully soon, but just realized we're at E-1, so until then

UNVOTE:

[Gypyx]

mid catchup posting cuz class is starting : really not a big fan of Ydrasse, mostly fluff but there's still that effort to play the game which idk, now that i think about it might be more town indicative for yeetdrasse specifically, but i dunno VOTE: Ydrase

Really liking pooky otherwise, and gamma feels too agressive to really be scum imho

[Gypyx]

My town slip is that I didn't even realize there were events until pooky mentioned it and I scrolled up

(sorry for not reading the setup before MT, now that I have it is really awesome though!!)

townlean on that too, although it could also be Dwlee projecting him finding out about events in the scum PT, i doubt that a paid actor would go and straight up say "that's a townslip"

[Taly]

I would've liked to see ANY type of counter to my case on Gamma.... I get it was spoilered but I don't feel differently than I did last night.

[Gypyx]

it's okay birdie, haven't reached it, i'll get to it eventually

[skitter30]

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so

He's been voting and pushing like 2/3 of the game at this point. In this universe why do u think he's setting up to kill u specifically?

[skitter30]

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

There are no power roles so there's no real reason to do this

Courtesy

[Dwlee99]

Yea this wagon on Dunnstral is unlikely to make him play but whatever

[skitter30]

I'm caught up enough I think. I just haven't found anything to really dig into. The mechanics seem the most interesting thing, but I don't think it's really the right time to talk about that, at least until we have the first challenge under our belts. My reads are awful, and I have this impression that no one's done or said anything really noteworthy. Like in Radio Buzz by this time we had several 1v1s or 1v1v1s. I see a few here, but they're junior varsity spats. I'm seeing what I think is a frustrated Gamma leading the pack, but I'm not sure why he's so scum read, which makes me think I need to go back and read the beginning of the game again, which I started doing. I do kind of agree with whomever said that thing about Ceph being similar to RB, and I think I need more than just that feeling to scum read him I think. I dunno, I'm just missing a ground hold here.

You feel very weird and like muted as compared to radio buzz. There iirc u also kinda missed fhe beginning of the game but ur contributions were p quickly p townie. Idk if the difference here is that u need more time to get into the swing pf things, or if ur just scum. Dunno how to differentiate between those universes just yet

Is there anything i can do to help you get into the game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yea this wagon on Dunnstral is unlikely to make him play but whatever

That’s not the point imo

[skitter30]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

E-1

I'm going to hammer I guess. I think we need a flip, or at least a view of how these days are going to go down.

@galron like 3 posts on top of this u said u werenr sure if gamma is scum + u arent really caughr up / into the game yet. This intent is super premature in that context and doesnt really make sense

Ngl i'm starting to get some cold feet abt gamma
There's been like no resistance, the wagon comp keeps changing, and i dont like how people are popping out of the woodwork to vote him

[skitter30]

I'm caught up enough I think. I just haven't found anything to really dig into. The mechanics seem the most interesting thing, but I don't think it's really the right time to talk about that, at least until we have the first challenge under our belts. My reads are awful, and I have this impression that no one's done or said anything really noteworthy. Like in Radio Buzz by this time we had several 1v1s or 1v1v1s. I see a few here, but they're junior varsity spats. I'm seeing what I think is a frustrated Gamma leading the pack, but I'm not sure why he's so scum read, which makes me think I need to go back and read the beginning of the game again, which I started doing. I do kind of agree with whomever said that thing about Ceph being similar to RB, and I think I need more than just that feeling to scum read him I think. I dunno, I'm just missing a ground hold here.

I'm going to hammer I guess. I think we need a flip, or at least a view of how these days are going to go down.

I really don't think we need 10 hours though.

So ur not caught up, dont have a foothold in the game, dont think anything noteworthy has happened, want to do a reread, dont ger why gamma is scimread, but want to hammer him and think waiting 10 hours to do so is too long.

Is that right?

[skitter30]

Adding to the pool of AtE really doesn't help me

:shrug:

i don't know what you want from me. no one seems to want me to be alive. it is demoralizing. half of them have only played one game with me and i was scum in that game and they've very wisely observed that i seem similar in this game. i feel the only way i can overcome their perceptions is by flipping town at which point they will realize that i'm actually just good at imitating myself. so it seems like this game is a wash / a price i have to play in order to be able to actually play mafia with this group.

Well, is there anything you think u should be townread for here?
Also this is like weirdlu nihilistic (not sure actually if that's the right word. But like you're willing to die to prove that you're town and make some grand broader point. Which as i write this out i realize is actually p different from radio buzz and might be +town tbh)

[skitter30]

I'm struggling to think of a minigame where it doesn't matter what the majority think and somebody just dies

But yeah, I get it

Two players get voted on to gladiate each other

[skitter30]

cuz its pointless?

like if you're scum and you're sitting at e-2/e-1 and you don't see any viable counterwagons and literally 0 people are listening to you.

is there actually a point in moving your vote around going "this person is scum!" "nah that person is scum!"

like lol how is this even scum indicative behavior

Well he's kinda been doing this since well before he was e1/e2

[skitter30]

Also Galron might be scum

:upvote:

[skitter30]

i'm baffled at anyone who has galron at anything but null

Well what do u think abt the points i made a few posta up?

[skitter30]

Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Galron, Sircakez, Pooky
Could do with a touching-up: Saber, Toogeloo, Dwlee
Remove them from the premises: Cephrir, Dunnstral, Ulyana, Petapan

Since I’m not long for this world I may as well leave this as a parting gift.

I think this serves as an express declaration that yes, I have turned my thoughts around on the Gypyx slot somewhat. I also had pings early from Ydrasse but expressly turned that around at a markedly earlier point.
Also, I may not have shown it much in my posting but I was genuinely lost for a time, it just seemed vastly unproductive to make a comment about it rather than working to fix the underlying issues. I am certain I’d have people barking about how I’ve been making a scene about my lack of direction and I’m scum for it if I’d actually been more clear about how lost I’d been when I was struggling with that. So excuse me if I find your viewpoint rather uncharitable.

Ugh idk if scum-gamma feels pressured to lut out a readslidt or is so prickly abt defending the notion that his readslist didnt change

[skitter30]

This seems to be a Mexican standoff kind of thing, except skitter's right, Infinity isn't pushing back but defending herself. There's an accusation of a Dwlee/Infinity team and of a Skitter/Infinity team. But it's lacking an accusation of a Dwlee/Skitter team. Infinity didn't go there.

I dont believe i said i thought dwlee/infinity are a team. In fact i'm p sure i said i *didnt* think that

[skitter30]

the issue that i'm having here is that i'm used to town-infinity having more 'oomph' and 'being here' more than she has been, esp. in response to my saying i scumread her. usually if town-her feels i'm reading her wrong (which has happened multiple times in the past), she kicks into gear, starts pushing me, and has a visceral sort of response. here she's kinda just passively accepting it and not really doing anything abt it, which i think is a reaction much more likely to come from scum-her.

like the fact that she's 'just kinda there' is what i'm finding scummy here.

You've got Infinity, Peta and me in the 'just kinda there' category. I don't disagree that I've been pretty inactive, but other than pushback from Infinity, what do you expect from Peta and from me?

Well for infinity i think the fact that she's occupying that slot runs counter to her town-meta
For u and peta, i'm trying to prod you into doing ai stuff thay i can read
Although at this point i think ur scum for other reasons

I forgot to say this earlier - while infinity and dwlee are both independantly scummy i dont think they make ssense together

I missed this, and reading back skitter never explicity stated that they were a team; I just inferred that.

Ah yeah

[skitter30]

In fact, I don't see Peta in that category.

Uh he very much is, almosg by his own admission

[skitter30]

i don't think this is a player list where i'm likely to have strong scumreads early and i feel that jumping in with reckless aggression is more likely to be unhelpful and lead to confusing my reads anyway

in the very early game i kind of prefer to hang back until something catches my attention anyway

this game is more or less my re-entry to plying mafia after some time off, where i couldn't muster any enthusiasm whatsoever. i had no desire to read anyone, the mystery of a game had no intrigue for me. now i'm back, i'm in that mindset and i'm eager to play, but i'm not in a place where i feel like i can act with confidence yet.


i am entirely serious when i say stuff about how i plan on being obvious town this game, it's just that it's not yet that time

Ok thanks, this context is helpful.
Given its a large i dont think i need to have u sorted today but just taking note of this and that i expect u to obvtown soonish

[skitter30]

Cephrir?
petapan?

Ydrasse

SirCakez

skitter30
Infinity 324

Toogeloo

Galron

Dunnstral

Question mark means it's like okay to kill them but I'm leaning towards not

Anyone wanna pick a name from this list?

Your kill list has 1 more person from my top tiers than my bottom tiers, and two of the very bottom tier people you have listed are question marks
Not a great PoE imo

Dont know why scum-gamma picks a fight with this when dwlee is offering to wagon someone else tbh

[skitter30]

Anyway just pick a name from there and I'll probably vote. If it's a question mark you'll need to give me processing time

Why “processing time”? And out of those names the ones I like best for scum are Cephrir and Dunnstral.
VOTE: Dunnstral
I’ll get things started.

Why ... are you voting dunn over ceph here ...