Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[ulyana]

I think I've spotted a crumb in this post.

The 'right' is obviously referring to 'the customer is always right' meaning Toogeloo is a consumer of goods. Perhaps a firearms expert.

[Galron]

please don't read too much into it -- not a Mafia metaphor.

Tweet wouldn't roll the snakes so much as command.

[ulyana]

please don't read too much into it -- not a Mafia metaphor.

nono i mean

why do you think i would be able to talk my way out of a basket of snakes?

as that generally isn't how i would describe myself and i don't really think others would really either? or at least they have not in the past?

so i wonder what gives you that impression

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma had an opportunity to vote himself into the chair though.

So the theory that they are playing to get into the chair is probably incorrect regardless (though that doesn't necessarily make him town because the chair isn't necessarily or even likely to be good)

I hate this from Dunnstral

100 points for anyone who can figure out why I hate this

Probably because the benefit to the chair would have to be direct, as in “you get immunity from execution for a time”, for me to as scum be willing to put myself into it. If it’s a kingmaker effect, that’s not immunity from future votes. And you get scrutinized if you take a poor shot. Just because it’s not an elimination doesn’t mean it’s good to be put in the hot seat.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: ulyana

Interesting choice, why do you think she’s scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

i think gamma is looking quite a lot better post prism-tilt-fight thing tbh

Meh, I still think he has deep pockets. His observations have been trending upwards but it's hard to let go of all the stuff that's already there.

That feels fair but I’ve spoken on some of the existing concerns brought up against me. Do you mind taking a look at those?

[Toogeloo]

I think Galron is afraid of doing something scummy.

One of Taly's earlier posts struck me that way too.

[ulyana]

I think Galron is afraid of doing something scummy.

One of Taly's earlier posts struck me that way too.

taly feels out of time sometimes

[Gamma Emerald]

like let's say this chair thing is something good.

and Gamma is trying to get into the chair because he's a stagehand and he knows the chair is good.[Theory]

Dunnstral is saying the theory is incorrect because Gamma could've just voted himself into the chair but Gamma didn't - hence he can't be a stagehand who wants to get into the chair. [Theory is wrong]

This completely ignores the fact that if Gamma were to vote himself into the chair, and it was something good, Gamma would look hella susp for it, aka the rest of the game when maybe we get a chance to kill him.

So it's not as simple as Dunnstral is making it.

Dunnstral is like

good

at mech, so he should recognize this, but he simplifies it.

That feels informed to me.

Also he ignored Gamma's vote on him completely and chooses to comment on this part without really commenting on actual relevant shit.

He was doing the AtE thing and I assume he could have slipped in a self vote then. He said he wanted to be hammered within the hour.

I wasn’t saying that because I had any bright ideas about the chair. I was like “this looks just about decided, I don’t want to spend the night worrying about this game if that’s legit the case”. Self-hammering at that juncture was taking a “maybe” and turning it into a “definitely” that

it didn’t have to be

. This also shows itself in how I brought up that the people who believed in me were my anchors.

[ulyana]

taly feels out of time sometimes

but this more or less ~rand even though it feels like it should be indicative

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to flip Uly and Dunn now.

can everyone just maybe talk to me instead of this

like

yeah

Okay. I don’t like how indecisive the particulars of your read on me are. You are saying I MAY be doing these things and it makes me scum. That doesn’t sit well with me. You can say I was testing the waters, that’s a legit thing I could see being mentioned. But being like “well maybe he was hoping to set up for a shot on me” is bad. Maybe there’s not a tangible difference?

[ulyana]

Okay. I don’t like how indecisive the particulars of your read on me are. You are saying I MAY be doing these things and it makes me scum. That doesn’t sit well with me. You can say I was testing the waters, that’s a legit thing I could see being mentioned. But being like “well maybe he was hoping to set up for a shot on me” is bad. Maybe there’s not a tangible difference?

i said the testing the waters thing also? to skitter, it just didn't seem that likely that scum!you would have thought that the testing the waters would gain traction, but perhaps i judged that incorrectly based on recent events lol

[Gamma Emerald]

shiki isn't usually this confident/even confrontational as scum

That’s the thing, her read on me is

not confrontational

, and I’m picking up on that. These things of “maybe” and “possibly” feel engineered to not step on people’s toes.
Although I’m having trouble telling what her post responding to me is saying

[skitter30]

shiki isn't usually this confident/even confrontational as scum

tbh i'm not sure i would describe her as confrontational ...

[ulyana]

shiki isn't usually this confident/even confrontational as scum

That’s the thing, her read on me is

not confrontational

, and I’m picking up on that. These things of “maybe” and “possibly” feel engineered to not step on people’s toes.
Although I’m having trouble telling what her post responding to me is saying

would like to see what the meta says about 'maybe' and 'possibly'

this still feels so ??? to me

like i am unsure that's why i say maybe that has nothing to do with confrontational or not

[skitter30]

VOTE: ulyana

also this is Not a good vote

[ulyana]

VOTE: ulyana

also this is Not a good vote

would you describe me as

being able to artfully talk my way out of a basket of snakes?

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re holding back on taking a hard stance on my actions because you don’t want to set me (or someone else, but likely me) off against you
That’s the connection I see between your word choice and the idea that you’re being non-confrontational
I can look over other games and see how often you use those words if that’s what you’re saying by bringing up the meta though

[skitter30]

VOTE: ulyana

also this is Not a good vote

would you describe me as

being able to artfully talk my way out of a basket of snakes?

i think it's a bizarre metaphor and not really, no

[ulyana]

You’re holding back on taking a hard stance on my actions because you don’t want to set me (or someone else, but likely me) off against you
That’s the connection I see between your word choice and the idea that you’re being non-confrontational
I can look over other games and see how often you use those words if that’s what you’re saying by bringing up the meta though

i mean, i do not like upsetting people or being upset but that has nothing to do with alignment,

and i also say maybe a lot because i am often unsure like it has nothing to do with confrontation and you're just giving it a mafia reading here

[ulyana]

i mean, i do not like upsetting people or being upset but that has nothing to do with alignment,

like i think it's pretty easy to see what happened this game when thinking about my engagement so you saying i was 'disconnected' earlier felt ??? in a very unfair way

[ulyana]

VOTE: ulyana

also this is Not a good vote

would you describe me as

being able to artfully talk my way out of a basket of snakes?

i think it's a bizarre metaphor and not really, no

yeah that's kinda how i felt about it

[Taly]

I think Galron is afraid of doing something scummy.

One of Taly's earlier posts struck me that way too.

Mind sharing which post struck you so? I'm really curious tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay
What about my original issue, that your game-related content was conspicuously missing? I don’t want to make a big deal about this, but at that time your last posts @me were basically saying “I think you’re a bad person IRL”. So I will admit I’m taking that personally but I think it is a factor in what I’m seeing, as you were more focused on the more personal aspect of the game than solving.
PEdit: okay I’m kinda glad you addressed some of my concerns before I did, it shows you’re probably genuinely trying to work this out.

[ulyana]

Okay
What about my original issue, that your game-related content was conspicuously missing? I don’t want to make a big deal about this, but at that time your last posts @me were basically saying “I think you’re a bad person IRL”. So I will admit I’m taking that personally but I think it is a factor in what I’m seeing, as you were more focused on the more personal aspect of the game than solving.
PEdit: okay I’m kinda glad you addressed some of my concerns before I did, it shows you’re probably genuinely trying to work this out.

i mean, if you think so, like someone every game scumreads me for that, skitter did in radio buzz,

i wasn't saying that but we can't talk about it anyway, so