Large normal 236 [Game over]

[GrandpaMo]

This isn’t a thing btw. Reads can’t be genuine if they’re coming from Scum. They can only be strategic if they’re coming from Scum. It’s why when LQ described their own post as strategic, it raised some eyebrows.

hard disagree

I was scum before and I gave genuine reads because I have tmi.

I can say this person is scum for not contributing then someone will sheep me and say I agree this person hasn't been contributing and therefore is scummy

that person who shipped me is town
and said the same thing as I did

what's the difference?

my allignment? that still doesn't mean that my read was genuine

now what if I was doing that to my scum partner if I were scum, like I was bussing and someone sheeped me on that player being scum as well (which they were scum)

[NorwegianboyEE]

How can you type texts that i can read word for word, yet feel like i didn't actually read anything.

[charlemagne]

This isn’t a thing btw. Reads can’t be genuine if they’re coming from Scum. They can only be strategic if they’re coming from Scum. It’s why when LQ described their own post as strategic, it raised some eyebrows.

hard disagree

I was scum before and I gave genuine reads because I have tmi.

I can say this person is scum for not contributing then someone will sheep me and say I agree this person hasn't been contributing and therefore is scummy

that person who shipped me is town
and said the same thing as I did

what's the difference?

my allignment? that still doesn't mean that my read was genuine

now what if I was doing that to my scum partner if I were scum, like I was bussing and someone sheeped me on that player being scum as well (which they were scum)

this was me quoting andres, not something i said

[T3]

charlemange town
dwlee town

[T3]

charlemange town
dwlee town

[T3]

charlemange town
dwlee town

[T3]

charlemange town
dwlee town

[T3]

not this again

[DkKoba]

IK IM SO LATE BUT HOLD ON WAIT THIS IS ACTUALLY HILARIOUS.

I KNEW SSBM WAS GONNA FLIP RED AND I THINK KOBA KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING LOL

wasnt even paying attention to u tbh

[Titus]

conftown based on what?
Care to share the thought process so I can understand?

He actually masonized me last night. (Technically a 1 shot combined friendly neighbor, cop, neighborizer.)

[Titus]

Stop trying to be scummy Titus. Nobody is buying it.

But I am vengeful. I can't live until elo barring a clear. Ahem.

Thanks House

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The thanks here is sarcastic. I wanted to use my vengeful.

[DkKoba]

Id have a chance to believe that if house voted kyouko after their claim

[Titus]

Ok. I don't really give a damn. Either you flip me and confirm that I'm honest and I get to shoot or you accept my claim as true.

[Titus]

It wouldn't change my flip but still

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would you even claim vengeful at any point.

[Titus]

Why would you even claim vengeful at any point.

Because I really want to use my shot. I never get this kind of role. My gambiting wasn't working soo why not?

[NorwegianboyEE]

But if you wanted to use your shot, why wouldn't you intentionally just play scummy and then when you get limmed you shoot the scum on your wagon? Claiming literally means that scum would never be stupid enough to vote on your wagon and that makes "using your shot" completely arbitrary and from your town!POV you'd be better off just claiming you're limproof and just vote the scum out traditionally.

I do not understand what you are doing from an town!POV here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Claim and then ask people to vote you?
Is it just performative or do you seriously expect that to just work and then you'd hit the mafia?

[cool cookie]

Why would you even claim vengeful at any point.

it could be a deterrent to getting eliminated. or might just be a genuine roleclaim.

[Titus]

But if you wanted to use your shot, why wouldn't you intentionally just play scummy and then when you get limmed you shoot the scum on your wagon? Claiming literally means that scum would never be stupid enough to vote on your wagon and that makes "using your shot" completely arbitrary and from your town!POV you'd be better off just claiming you're limproof and just vote the scum out traditionally.

I do not understand what you are doing from an town!POV here.

I tried being scummy by spamming and being useless. Given I was TRed, people might buy BP and it might cause a CC.

In the wiki, Vengeful never live until elo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would you even claim vengeful at any point.

it could be a deterrent to getting eliminated. or might just be a genuine roleclaim.

They wasn't under pressure so the timing of the claim is odd as well.

[Titus]

Claim and then ask people to vote you?
Is it just performative or do you seriously expect that to just work and then you'd hit the mafia?

It worked in a recent mini theme but I overdid the slayers and wound up eliminated. They limmed the scum I fingered the next day.

[DkKoba]

Fancy pants mech plays are 100% within titus scumrange but im not so sure about townrange.
Saw her crumb overtly as jailkeeper before tho so the theres that.
I'm mainly concerned that titus has seen me snipe kyouko's alignment 3 times in a row and resisted the kyouko wagon -
If house is town here i do trust him to find titus if she is town though because he def did find scum her while she was playing her heart out

[Titus]

It was the only scum caught.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87367

[Titus]

Fancy pants mech plays are 100% within titus scumrange but im not so sure about townrange.
Saw her crumb overtly as jailkeeper before tho so the theres that.
I'm mainly concerned that titus has seen me snipe kyouko's alignment 3 times in a row and resisted the kyouko wagon -
If house is town here i do trust him to find titus if she is town though because he def did find scum her while she was playing her heart out

Meh, I don't sheep easy when my goal is to be scummy. Loud and obtrusive is the game.