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[HawaiianPizza]

pineapple on pizza ruins the texture

VOTE: T3
how dare you. also explain on fua/three. .

[T3]

Also hawaiian pizza was made by a greek chef in canada who was inspired by chinese food

[T3]

pineapple on pizza ruins the texture

VOTE: T3
how dare you. also explain on fua/three. .

I don't think scum would be so blatant about something like that.

[HawaiianPizza]

oops... look, i get it, there are "better" options on the menu

fine

i bet most of you haven't even tasted me tho

People are really complaining about Hawaiian Pizza when there are people out there who don’t put any toppings or cheese on their pizza, while some even put

goat cheese

on theirs.

Pineapple is literally just a fruit. It’s fine on pizza. People should stop making a big deal about it and I will die on this hill.

i heard you ordering a margherita last night...

pineapple on pizza ruins the texture

VOTE: T3
how dare you. also explain on fua/three. .

I don't think scum would be so blatant about something like that.

i'm too lazy to go back and check
take "meh" as an answer for now

VOTE: Three host pls don't kill me

[Three]

I don't think Dwlee is scum.

I'm struggling to believe Dwlee's scum read on me is real at this point. They think it's scummy that I town read them despite getting scum read by them, but if OMGUS scum read them back I'm certain that I wouldn't get town read for that. I don't get why you're so set on miseliminating me since it seems like you are going to scum read me no matter what I say or do.

Seems like you were were implying it by suggesting their scumread on you didn't seem "real".

Somebody can tunnel and still be town.

[cool cookie]

VOTE: thezenman

[Three]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

[cool cookie]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

[Dwlee99]

I could go zenman maybe

[TheZenMan]

Alright I give up on Hawaiian.


Unranked:
redtea


Town:
Jacket
House
Dwlee
fua
Almost50


Null:

T3
Three
Save The Dragons
cool cookie

HawaiianPizza

Scum:

TheZenMan



-RedTea. While I agree with Jacket 370 that RedTea's claimed felt very convenient, I think it's best to give it one night to see what happens. I also think RedTea acted pretty good under pressure

-Cookie being leading wagon is pretty interesting. Informed holding off info isn't really that scummy if it's info on another PR or something that could harm town. So I don't scumread cookie. Nothing faer have posted seems townie though. If Cookie flips green, scum is 100% on this wagon.

- Jacket and Fua gave me early townread vibes. I find myself agreeing to a lot of Jacket's reads. Still trying to find a way to make a "literally me" joke. Fua from their interactions with DwLee.

- Dwlee gave me lax town vibes early. Although the activity reads against a50 that are reachy which is why they're my weakest townread. And offering the hammer to other people for RedTea felt kinda scummy too.

- Almost50's catch up posts were pretty good. Although I really don't see the Jacket scumread. The defense against Dwlee in 929 was towny. His claim also feels the most believable, as I think it's riskier for scum to claim after 2 claims already.

-T3 has sooo much content and stuff feels towny but I don't feel comfortable townleaning him.. 417 Gives me townie vibes but the push on Jacket makes no sense to me.

- House is an epic top town read. Idk if he's in my pocket, or he just reads naturally townie. But I haven't been pinged by any of his posts.

- STD is Null. A lot of naked votes with not a lot of elaboration.

-Zen's recent shade on me feels like a misrep. Like, I was mad at being lumped in with both of you cause you/a50 had 2 and 0 posts. I also said I was scumreading three and townreading Jacket early on.

- I don't understand the townread on Hawaiian.

- Three: at the time I voted three he had three posts. Which was pretty cool. I was secretly hoping it was a gimmick account that made 3 posts a day or something. I initially scumread him because of the lack of anything +, bringing redtea to e-2. But I think his defense has been pretty solid recently, and my vote on him has very much overstayed it's welcome.


VOTE: Zenman

If Zen flips scum then the other scum was on the redtea wagon. I feel like scum would hop on a potential mis-elim wagon with their scum partner MIA for the first day or so.

Vote Count 1.02

redtea (6):

HawaiianPizza, cool cookie, House, redtea, Three, fua

(E-1)

So just one scumread and the other are all null/town? No one sees anything suspicious about this? The guy he goes for is also someone already scumreading him, so he loses nothing by putting me at the bottom there. I feel George is trying to stay on as many peoples good sides as possible.

[TheZenMan]

What is the wagon on three for?

[TheZenMan]

Feels like both George and Cool are going after me for the simple reason that I went after them. That's not really a good reason in my mind, and I can't really find either of them making a good case on me.

[TheZenMan]

I could go zenman maybe

Okay, because?

[Three]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

Yeah yeah AtE whatever, getting annoyed at getting eliminated Day 1 when you effort is NAI either way. I genuinely thought I was closer than E-3 though since last I checked I had three votes and I thought I saw three more come my way.

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

[Dwlee99]

I could go zenman maybe

Okay, because?

You're in my poe and George said a lot of words

[Three]

Alright I give up on Hawaiian.


Unranked:
redtea


Town:
Jacket
House
Dwlee
fua
Almost50


Null:

T3
Three
Save The Dragons
cool cookie

HawaiianPizza

Scum:

TheZenMan



-RedTea. While I agree with Jacket 370 that RedTea's claimed felt very convenient, I think it's best to give it one night to see what happens. I also think RedTea acted pretty good under pressure

-Cookie being leading wagon is pretty interesting. Informed holding off info isn't really that scummy if it's info on another PR or something that could harm town. So I don't scumread cookie. Nothing faer have posted seems townie though. If Cookie flips green, scum is 100% on this wagon.

- Jacket and Fua gave me early townread vibes. I find myself agreeing to a lot of Jacket's reads. Still trying to find a way to make a "literally me" joke. Fua from their interactions with DwLee.

- Dwlee gave me lax town vibes early. Although the activity reads against a50 that are reachy which is why they're my weakest townread. And offering the hammer to other people for RedTea felt kinda scummy too.

- Almost50's catch up posts were pretty good. Although I really don't see the Jacket scumread. The defense against Dwlee in 929 was towny. His claim also feels the most believable, as I think it's riskier for scum to claim after 2 claims already.

-T3 has sooo much content and stuff feels towny but I don't feel comfortable townleaning him.. 417 Gives me townie vibes but the push on Jacket makes no sense to me.

- House is an epic top town read. Idk if he's in my pocket, or he just reads naturally townie. But I haven't been pinged by any of his posts.

- STD is Null. A lot of naked votes with not a lot of elaboration.

-Zen's recent shade on me feels like a misrep. Like, I was mad at being lumped in with both of you cause you/a50 had 2 and 0 posts. I also said I was scumreading three and townreading Jacket early on.

- I don't understand the townread on Hawaiian.

- Three: at the time I voted three he had three posts. Which was pretty cool. I was secretly hoping it was a gimmick account that made 3 posts a day or something. I initially scumread him because of the lack of anything +, bringing redtea to e-2. But I think his defense has been pretty solid recently, and my vote on him has very much overstayed it's welcome.


VOTE: Zenman

If Zen flips scum then the other scum was on the redtea wagon. I feel like scum would hop on a potential mis-elim wagon with their scum partner MIA for the first day or so.

Vote Count 1.02

redtea (6):

HawaiianPizza, cool cookie, House, redtea, Three, fua

(E-1)

So just one scumread and the other are all null/town? No one sees anything suspicious about this? The guy he goes for is also someone already scumreading him, so he loses nothing by putting me at the bottom there. I feel George is trying to stay on as many peoples good sides as possible.

I do have my vote there, STD did as well but he unvoted. I doubt it's happening at this point.

[TheZenMan]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

Yeah yeah AtE whatever, getting annoyed at getting eliminated Day 1 when you effort is NAI either way. I genuinely thought I was closer than E-3 though since last I checked I had three votes and I thought I saw three more come my way.

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

I think you are getting a bit too emotionally invested in the game. Remember it's just a game at the end of the day.

I looked for a bit but still didn't see a case made on you. Your reaction however for me reads as town.

[TheZenMan]

I could go zenman maybe

Okay, because?

You're in my poe and George said a lot of words

George one argument for me is that he didn't like my push on him. Feels more like a reaction to me accusing him rather than actual scumhunting.

[Three]

I wouldn't say I'm emotionally invested, I'm just annoyed that I think I've defended myself well but it seems to keep getting ignored. A lot of naked votes keep coming my way, so I'm not exactly sure what I can do here, because if I argue against those naked votes it's just going to look like shade/OMGUS even though they're pretty objectively bad votes.

[TheZenMan]

Did people read the post I made below about George? Feels like people are sleeping on how scummy he really has been this whole game.



https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13038212

[TheZenMan]

I wouldn't say I'm emotionally invested, I'm just annoyed that I think I've defended myself well but it seems to keep getting ignored. A lot of naked votes keep coming my way, so I'm not exactly sure what I can do here, because if I argue against those naked votes it's just going to look like shade/OMGUS even though they're pretty objectively bad votes.

Yeah, I get it. And I agree it's not really good to throw out OMGUS, it's just reactionary. Remember, scum could always influence the wagons and try to get you elimmed.

[Save The Dragons]

i'd probably settle on george

[cool cookie]

Feels like both George and Cool are going after me for the simple reason that I went after them. That's not really a good reason in my mind, and I can't really find either of them making a good case on me.

no there were several people voting for me. i'm voting you because you joined a wagon on me literally because it was the biggest wagon but didn't give any other reason. i did already say that of course, so you didn't look too hard apparently.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

so anyway, not in danger of a quickhammer anymore unless i'm blind VOTE: Three
do we have to reach a majority for lunch or is plurality enabled

also dislike cookie/george wagons, i think

Majority for eliminations. On evens, you only need 50% of the vote for "no elimination", but still a standard majority for an elimination.

This will be made clear in each vote count if we reach evens during the game.

Plurality is not in effect. If no majority is reached by deadline, the day will end in no elimination

[GeorgeBailey]

Feels like both George and Cool are going after me for the simple reason that I went after them. That's not really a good reason in my mind, and I can't really find either of them making a good case on me.

I'm not going voting you because you're scum reading me, it's why and how you scum read me. You voted Cookie with little explanation and then wrote an activity case on me. Why do you even scumread Cookie right now?

It also felt like a pretty blatant misrep.

Now that Cool Cookie's wagon is stagnating, you're pushing me.