Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[skitter30]

not sure if it's applicable here since we don't know what the chair does but like why are they just not voting each other otherwise [-.-]

i think ur onto something tbh

[skitter30]

Yeah .... maybe it is dueling wagons again ...

Do u have thoughts on galron overall ?

I've never played with scum Galron and I have trouble figuring out what his alignment is because I'm not sure what he's doing.

I had a problem with this in Radio Buzz as well, I was quite sure he was town because of his conversation with Shiki in the hood but I had no idea what he was actually trying to do in the game itself.

I'd expect Shiki to have a better read on him than me since she correctly identified him as town in Radio Buzz - I just kind of went with what their conversation in the hood looked like.

ig the issue i'm having with him is that town-him was p easy for me to spot in radio buzz and here i just, well, don't see it

[skitter30]

Do you think scum are involved with the Galron wagon, Saber?

Most likely. I think you're a stagehand and the Galron wagon is your buddies attempt to save you. Whether they're instigating it (skitter) or taking advantage of it (petapan amongst others) I'm unsure of though.

Or it's Galron and I'm wrong on you but that can't be the case because I'm incapable of being wrong.

kinda feel like you're calling galron *just scummy enough* that you can plausibly join that wagon too
like in a hedge-y sort of way

[skitter30]

good luck!

[skitter30]

How did it help make sense of the game for you? The purpose of your wagon was to be the counter to Gamma and many players expressed as much when they voted you. Do you think Gamma's buddies are doing their jobs now?

Could be.

But it could be that Gamma's town and scum were perfectly happy having that wagon. I think the latter is more likely. Having me as a counter makes sense.

Although I haven't analyzed it, I think it probably gives those shy to vote Gamma an outlet. You could probably replace me with a few others and get a similar outcome.

what? if gamma is town why does a counter on you spring up ...?

[Galron]

Sorry, Taly. I forgot about that.

[Taly]

haha no worries I was half-joking. Not actually mad about it.

Not one of my best games.

[Galron]

How did it help make sense of the game for you? The purpose of your wagon was to be the counter to Gamma and many players expressed as much when they voted you. Do you think Gamma's buddies are doing their jobs now?

Could be.

But it could be that Gamma's town and scum were perfectly happy having that wagon. I think the latter is more likely. Having me as a counter makes sense.

Although I haven't analyzed it, I think it probably gives those shy to vote Gamma an outlet. You could probably replace me with a few others and get a similar outcome.

what? if gamma is town why does a counter on you spring up ...?

Because it makes no sense to have one wagon on Day 1. That's what I was saying. This game made no sense without a counter-wagon. And without the first promising wagon to fall apart.

[skitter30]

kinda hate galron's posting on the last page

[skitter30]

How did it help make sense of the game for you? The purpose of your wagon was to be the counter to Gamma and many players expressed as much when they voted you. Do you think Gamma's buddies are doing their jobs now?

Could be.

But it could be that Gamma's town and scum were perfectly happy having that wagon. I think the latter is more likely. Having me as a counter makes sense.

Although I haven't analyzed it, I think it probably gives those shy to vote Gamma an outlet. You could probably replace me with a few others and get a similar outcome.

what? if gamma is town why does a counter on you spring up ...?

Because it makes no sense to have one wagon on Day 1. That's what I was saying. This game made no sense without a counter-wagon. And without the first promising wagon to fall apart.

sorry my brain is fried tonight and maybe i'm beign really slow and missing something that you're trying to say
from scum's pov why do they wagon you in the instance that gamma is town?

[Galron]

If Gamma's scum, then good on everyone for spotting it so quickly. Or it could be that Gamma's town, and people were just anxious to get Event 1 out of the way. Or it could be something else. Who knows. But I've never been in a large game where the first wagon sailed through. And bonus, there's scum at the end. That doesn't make sense to me.

[Galron]

How did it help make sense of the game for you? The purpose of your wagon was to be the counter to Gamma and many players expressed as much when they voted you. Do you think Gamma's buddies are doing their jobs now?

Could be.

But it could be that Gamma's town and scum were perfectly happy having that wagon. I think the latter is more likely. Having me as a counter makes sense.

Although I haven't analyzed it, I think it probably gives those shy to vote Gamma an outlet. You could probably replace me with a few others and get a similar outcome.

what? if gamma is town why does a counter on you spring up ...?

Because it makes no sense to have one wagon on Day 1. That's what I was saying. This game made no sense without a counter-wagon. And without the first promising wagon to fall apart.

sorry my brain is fried tonight and maybe i'm beign really slow and missing something that you're trying to say
from scum's pov why do they wagon you in the instance that gamma is town?

They don't. But it gives people who are on the fence leave to vote someone other than the leading wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not.

VOTE: Gamma

HMMMMM

[Taly]

So this accelerates my progression with

Galron.

Forget the scummer word game,

Galron

, do you mind if I openly guess your alt? Is there a way I would know who if I'm correct?

I'm sure you got it. It would throw Pooky off because he has played with me being scum before, and I don't think there's a noticeable difference.

Then why do you feel so unimpassioned this game? That aligns more with what I predict scum-you is, but it's not like you've tried to gain thread control or assert your viewpoints on setup beyond speculation (which is a trait I believe is NAI of you but that's the difference in this game and

Dung Beetle

, so I don't know how to read you.).

p-edit

Ugh, nobody mentioned L-1.

There's currently 3 people I'd rather chair than

Galron

at the moment.

Let me ask this. We played two beetle games. One I was town, the other scum. Did you notice any differences between those two? And how about each of those versus this one?

You hold your townreads closer to your chest as town.
You're far more flexible with your thinking on a setup as town even if you do not agree with how other people's takes on it are.
AtE feels like a visceral reaction from you as town whereas it becomes a point to heighten your charisma when you have an agenda to assert as scum.
Actually, your rigidity as scum is more likely to bleed into how you're reading the game. You use readslist as a way to position yourself and gauge for how other's will perceive you.

You have nothing to gain by rejecting a relatively easy pocket in me.
You seem pretty unmoved over the fact that people give you shit about the

GammaVYou

gladiate not pushing you to actively eliminate him, and you still only vote apathetically. As if, because you can reason why a

Gamma

-counter is getting so much attention, you'll entertain what comes of that since you don't feel strongly either way.
You respected my wishes to not hammer.

[Taly]

Honestly wtf

Why does

Galron

have votes again?

[Galron]

In RB somehow we figured out the two D1 leading wagons were S/S. To me that's an absolute anomoly. But hey, I'm not the vet here.

[Saber]

Do you think scum are involved with the Galron wagon, Saber?

Most likely. I think you're a stagehand and the Galron wagon is your buddies attempt to save you. Whether they're instigating it (skitter) or taking advantage of it (petapan amongst others) I'm unsure of though.

Or it's Galron and I'm wrong on you but that can't be the case because I'm incapable of being wrong.

kinda feel like you're calling galron *just scummy enough* that you can plausibly join that wagon too
like in a hedge-y sort of way

Nah, Galron may be dealing drugs on the side but Gamma is the shining stagehand. I implore you to vote him.

[skitter30]

so from your pov what have scum been doing this phase?

[Taly]

Gamma/Galron

has at max 1 scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re HIGH if you don’t think SOMETHING hinky is going on with Galron. The timing of his vote on me makes ZERO sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why wouldn't galron vote for you when its between you and him?

[Taly]

so from your pov what have scum been doing this phase?

Is it impossible that both wagons have been largely town-led regardless of

Gamma/Galron's

alignment? It's almost a distraction to consider what the scumteam as a whole could be doing D1 in this game because they have more information of the chair than the rest of plist.

What do you think the scum has been doing this game?

You’re HIGH if you don’t think SOMETHING hinky is going on with Galron. The timing of his vote on me makes ZERO sense.

See, I don't like this AtE,

Gamma

.

You have to reason with me WHY the voting is weird when there's been plenty of votes, unvotes, and revotes that haven't even been discussed?

[ulyana]

You’re HIGH if you don’t think SOMETHING hinky is going on with Galron. The timing of his vote on me makes ZERO sense.

???

you voted for galron two pages ago while saying you thought he was town

[Galron]

so from your pov what have scum been doing this phase?

Matadoring Gamma's wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re HIGH if you don’t think SOMETHING hinky is going on with Galron. The timing of his vote on me makes ZERO sense.

???

you voted for galron two pages ago while saying you thought he was town

That was directly after Pooky said it was between me and Galron. Galron meanwhile continued to call me town with minimal doubt, until the momentum was at a critical point where he couldn’t not vote me.