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[T3]

@T3:

Are you ever going to explain your meta reads? Because at some point or another you're going to get accused of TMI if you don't.

No

[T3]

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

Yeah yeah AtE whatever, getting annoyed at getting eliminated Day 1 when you effort is NAI either way. I genuinely thought I was closer than E-3 though since last I checked I had three votes and I thought I saw three more come my way.

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

I both like and hate this reaction.

This is a zero calorie statement.

I like it because of the way the ate is executed I hate it because the ate was uncalled for.

[Dwlee99]

I mean, you'd have to be extremely confident that I'm scum for this to be a viable line of thought. I'm just not sure what you plan to do when I flip green since you haven't done anything else all game except tunnel me. Point being that you'll look awful Day 2 with my green flip, and seeing as I'm one of the few people actively defending and town reading you, you're going to be an easy target going forward.

This is another reason I town read you too, you're being way too short-sighted to be scum. Like there's really no reason not to vote you Day 2 once I flip green so I have no idea why you would play like this as scum. But if I'm wrong about my read on you I guess this works out.

What exactly do you plan to do tomorrow when I flip green?

If you flipped town I'd either keep going through my poe or reeval depending on NK. I don't like that you say I haven't done anything other than tunnel you because I've been narrowing down my poe and I feel like that's more important than catching scum immediately

[fua]

Everyone here has spent a week on the game (Except George), so it’s not even that good of AtE.

[T3]

also where has dr. house gone to

[redtea]

@redtea and @cookie:

If you had to pick someone else to vote besides each other, who would it be?

yeah i guess i have to get something together huh
i don't wanna vote cookie anymore

[redtea]

I wouldn't say I'm emotionally invested, I'm just annoyed that I think I've defended myself well but it seems to keep getting ignored. A lot of naked votes keep coming my way, so I'm not exactly sure what I can do here, because if I argue against those naked votes it's just going to look like shade/OMGUS even though they're pretty objectively bad votes.

no need to fear, redtea is here >wo

[redtea]

i wouldn't be surprised if the "treaty" between three and fua is w/w honestly.
they'd be towards the bottom of my list, so maybe i'm biased but... that whole thing seemed off to me. especially from three's side.

there's a neighbour claim?

i think fua's the suspicious half tbh
weren't they the one to propose it? Could've wanted to look better when hopping on a mislim in the future/thought it a good opportunity to snag a tr/neutral from three. Or hell, to look good while their partner pushes three instead.
Which, in a t3/fua world, puts #417 in perspective.

[redtea]

What is clearing if not making random justifications in the hopes that you come off as looking like you’re getting something done?

You can't just replace the meaning of an established term like that
Stop it

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

In that case it'd take two nights to clear you of being a pr, but honestly I don't think that's a bad idea. I don't know what we'd be doing with my ability anyway.

[redtea]

wait i don't think i tr Almost50

VOTE: almost50

dragons what are you doing

I like it because of the way the ate is executed I hate it because the ate was uncalled for.

was it really though
are we reading the same game

[redtea]

So just one scumread and the other are all null/town? No one sees anything suspicious about this?

No

Did people read the post I made below about George? Feels like people are sleeping on how scummy he really has been this whole game.



https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13038212

he just needed time i think

[redtea]

I think I know where I wanna go, but I'll have to do some isoing

[House]

also where has dr. house gone to

Well, a few hours ago I was in here saying you have partner equity with Jacket.

Interesting that you don't respond to that and instead simply ask where I went.

[redtea]

I pretty heavy tr jacket rn but I'd like to hear about that

[House]

I pretty heavy tr jacket rn but I'd like to hear about that

I scumread Jacket.

I forgot.
VOTE: jacket

Haha.

This post reads to me like a bussed player that's not particularly happy with his buddy, sarcastically laughing at the vote.

[House]

Which is weird, because I didn't like his push on T3 in the first place, lol

[House]

And instead of T3 asking me about the apparent contradiction, he just swings by and asks where I am?

[House]

Something is off, here.

[redtea]

you think scum glosses over it instead of addressing it, especially when it's you saying it?

[House]

you think scum glosses over it instead of addressing it, especially when it's you saying it?

T3 ain't skurred of me, lol.

[redtea]

i mean scum will ignore me all day but idk about you

pedit in that case, wouldn't you think he'd face it head-on directly to the forehead?

[redtea]

I'm having a hard time finding how to piece this together in a way that makes sense to other people but I think [t3, dwlee, fua] is a solid poe
maybe through dragons if there if one Really wants

[House]

i mean scum will ignore me all day but idk about you

pedit in that case, wouldn't you think he'd face it head-on directly to the forehead?

Imagining what *might* be done is WIFOM.

I address* what IS.

[redtea]

okay okay
i guess see what you mean. I could see what you mention in #1141 being overconfident/playing fast-and-loose scum or smth, meaning either he doesn't care enough to actually iso you real quick or thinks maybe he can try to get away with glossing over it.

I think #1052 is just Jacket being purely himself imo

[redtea]

man. I don't know about the fact that t3 stayed so long on fua. But it's also weird that t3 has mentioned and talked to fua way more than fua has mentioned/talked to t3, which reminds me of how hesitant i was last scum game (and maybe before then too) about talking with my scumbuddies, especially n the beginning of the game. Some other things about fua were reminding me about my own scumplay too, the other day.

Looking over vcs, dwlee seems like a better partner candidate for either of them than they do for each other, buuuut.

Okay I'm going to pick one and see where it goes.

VOTE: fua

I still really don't like how you didn't explain why you kept voting three, just that your vote wasn't moving. You make me even more paranoid than t3 and dwlee do, and if I don't at least try to vote you out and you end up being scum I'll kick myself.