newbie 2080: correct statements (this is over)

[MargotRosa]

Never mind.

Yes it was.

No regrets.

Some regrets

[DArby]

This game is super quiet. Thanks, Val, for putting in the effort. Your work on cook seems solid. Somehow it still feels like lhf, but it's a decent case.

VOTE: Cook

OH MY GOD GALRON VOTED TWICE AGAIN

[MargotRosa]

That's a terrible page top. I think, however, this is my first actual hammer, so that's neat, and I would probably have hammered anyway had I known, given proximity to EoD and it being an obvious vote

[Galron]

The naked unvote of Margot when she is in no danger at all can be nothing more than an unspoken "I like what you are saying" signal. I have to be careful I am not falling for confirmation bias here, but I wonder what exactly it is about Margots posting that Cook is trying to signal she likes. I'm wondering if anyone else has any gut instinct on what it might be, just so I can be a bit more confident I'm not confbiasing here?

This might have been missed amongst everything else I posted, since nobody has proferred an answer.

Anyone have any thoughts on what Cook was trying to signal with the naked unvote on Margot at 290?

Eh.. I think her answer about liking Margot's posting right before that is probably true. If Cook is scum, it's a good way to draw attention to yourself being townie for someone who just spilled town. If Cook is town, it's just the right thing to do.

[MargotRosa]

Oh lol.

Well, if that was intentional by Galron, that's probably Town indicative

[Val89]

It's E-1, not hammer just yet.

I'll buckle my seatbelt and strap in for the lesson on how Cook intends to play out of her fake claiming playbook when she has already published said playbook to the world, and announce

intent to hammer.

[Galron]

This game is super quiet. Thanks, Val, for putting in the effort. Your work on cook seems solid. Somehow it still feels like lhf, but it's a decent case.

VOTE: Cook

OH MY GOD GALRON VOTED TWICE AGAIN

I don't think so. I checked the last VC and I wasn't voting for anyone. I think my last voting action was unvoting mew (bc I'm an idiot).

[MargotRosa]

This game is super quiet. Thanks, Val, for putting in the effort. Your work on cook seems solid. Somehow it still feels like lhf, but it's a decent case.

VOTE: Cook

OH MY GOD GALRON VOTED TWICE AGAIN

I don't think so. I checked the last VC and I wasn't voting for anyone. I think my last voting action was unvoting mew (bc I'm an idiot).

DArby's right.

306

[DArby]

It's E-1, not hammer just yet.

I'll buckle my seatbelt and strap in for the lesson on how Cook intends to play out of her fake claiming playbook when she has already published said playbook to the world, and announce

intent to hammer.

Lmao yeah I’ve been trying to vote count on my phone. Why are you voting like this Galron?

Also just hammer Val. Cook is here and is clear she doesn’t have anything of substance.

[MargotRosa]

Can someone who has a clearer idea of DArby's meta please tell me if the slightest little tic in my head telling me that his last three/four posts are indeed scum indicative actually is corroborated by his game style?

[DArby]

Can someone who has a clearer idea of DArby's meta please tell me if the slightest little tic in my head telling me that his last three/four posts are indeed scum indicative actually is corroborated by his game style?

I don’t have a meta. Yet.

[MargotRosa]

Dark and mysterious. I love it. MafiaScum going back to its hard-boiled noir detective fiction roots

[schadd_]

it is impossible to really juggle anything

vote count 1.4

Cook (4):

DArby, Galron, Thynhith, MargotRosa

Thynhith (1):

Roden

Spangled (1):

Val89

not voting (3):

Facebones, Spangled, Cook

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-10 13:35:00)

[Val89]

Also just hammer Val. Cook is here and is clear she doesn’t have anything of substance.

Understand the sentiment, really I do, but I've seen that go wrong before.

I won't let her just stall us all night, but she gets a reasonable chance to make a claim at E-1, if that is what she is going to do.

[Val89]

This is such a clearly blatantly and obviously scummy post, and to imagine it coming as a response to the first bit of concerted pressure the slot has received this game, I'm honestly even more convinced that Spangled is Town

While we wait, would you might explaining this?

Honestly, you lost me, and who knows who will be around to ask or answer such questions tomorrow, given it looks like out illustrious mod is on high alert to lock the thread the second the hammer comes down.

[DArby]

Dark and mysterious. I love it. MafiaScum going back to its hard-boiled noir detective fiction roots

*tips fedora darkly*

Also just hammer Val. Cook is here and is clear she doesn’t have anything of substance.

Understand the sentiment, really I do, but I've seen that go wrong before.

I won't let her just stall us all night, but she gets a reasonable chance to make a claim at E-1, if that is what she is going to do.

Fair enough. It’s your hammer.

[MargotRosa]

UNVOTE: , as we've actually got 3 days, and not the almost EoD I was led to believe it was

[MargotRosa]

ugh

UNVOTE:

[MargotRosa]

This is such a clearly blatantly and obviously scummy post, and to imagine it coming as a response to the first bit of concerted pressure the slot has received this game, I'm honestly even more convinced that Spangled is Town

While we wait, would you might explaining this?

Honestly, you lost me, and who knows who will be around to ask or answer such questions tomorrow, given it looks like out illustrious mod is on high alert to lock the thread the second the hammer comes down.

I just don't think any newb gets that emotionally upset, in that specific way, if they are Scum.

I have seen comments like this happen, at the first sign of trouble, and it's rarely a scum that's doing it, especially not noob scum:

Just piss off with the ‘belatedly’ nonsense, it wasn’t belated if it was in time for you to see it, now, was it?
god, your tone, please
I won’t elaborate what I dislike about it; it’s not scummy or anything, if anything semi-self-righteousness is towny, it’s just making me mad
and I did elaborate, a little
damnit

When it has been, it's part of a pattern of newbiness that stretches across d1, and not something that comes out at the first sign of pressure and only then.

I guess, put as succinctly as possible, an emotional Scum is emotional the whole time, because they are engaging in a series of lies the whole time they're playing. It's always the same game, and pressure coming at them is just what they've been anticipating since they got the red role PM.

An emotional Town noob however, changes drastically with the game, because they goals change drastically as the game does, between hunting for scum, and making sure they don't get eliminated. So it's easy to go from being very happy, very invested, very serious, very contemplative, to very upset, very targeted, very paranoid, etc.

[Galron]

Okay I think Word has made a convicing push, where I haven't been as thorough as he.

VOTE: cook

I guess I did.

[Val89]

I don't know what to make of that unvote, really.

Cook is obviously trying to stall a bit here, perhaps she is trying to have a discussion with her scumbuddy before deciding how to play this, and that sort of thing only helps her.

I'm tempted to put my own vote back on Cook, but frankly, I think I only really trust myself with the hammer right now.

[MargotRosa]

We have three days, and I'm honestly more interested at this point with what I'm doing d2

[Galron]

And it was just last night. Gotta get my head in the game.

[Val89]

I just don't think any newb gets that emotionally upset, in that specific way, if they are Scum.

OK, I buy that, but notice how with that emotional post, Spangled has managed to turn this in a discussion about mine, or his, tone? If it WAS scummy, I imagine that was the intent. Do you have any comments to make about the actual substance of the arguement?

Don't forget, whatever you might think about how a Town noob verus a Scum noob might act, that noob might very well be receiving some coaching behind the scenes.

[DArby]

ugh

UNVOTE:

We have three days, and I'm honestly more interested at this point with what I'm doing d2

What? Shouldn’t you be putting more focus on reading more of the game like you said you wanted to do? I don’t see how waiting until the limit is helpful. Unless cook role claims we’re just stalling at this point.