Mini 2241: The Neighborhood -- ENDGAME

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just need kaz to claim a juicy pr too now

[House]

VOTE: Kazyan

I will also say I’m losing faith in my house town read!

Unless I've missed something pretty big during the week, I'd rather not flip Kaz.

There's a guilty on Kaz, if all claims are to be believed, between a parity cop between Unwnd/Kaz and The Worst's town clear on Unwnd via doctor protection.

Oh, shit.

Sorry, I've been zoned out after work this week.

I need to read up.

[House]

{pooky, kazy, dwlee, unwnd}
{gork}
{} entire bracket of weak townreads which i just don't have
{house, dann}
{megazu} (flips down if LLD is green)
{mcat, navi} ????
{gamma}
{LLD}

Kinda weird that tw would consider me a null reads at best here, but...

high nk equity: {unwnd, gork, pooky}
mid nk equity: {dannflor, house}
low nk equity: {kazyan}
between these categories haaallpp: {dwlee}
not NKs (elims): {mcat, lld, gamma, megazu}

... say I have a non-negligible amount of nk equity, here.

If I'm nk bait of any tier, that suggests a read in which to base that opinion.

Not sure I buy the claim he protected unwnd, tbh.

Gonna peep Kaz & unwnd. Meanwhile...

UNVOTE:

[House]

Yeah, nah.

I just don't see scum acting about a Mason crumb they've "caught" the way Kazyan did.

I'm actually leaning towards voting unwnd, here. Sue me.

[Kazyan]

There's a guilty on Kaz, if all claims are to be believed, between a parity cop between Unwnd/Kaz and The Worst's town clear on Unwnd via doctor protection.

Remember that Gamma claimed Parity Cop only

after

the protective claim, and at E-1 to boot. If it were claimed beforehand, it wouldn't clearly be an >80% chance to break up the townblock. Free miselim on me and "PoE" miselim on unwnd.

I mean no offence to unwnd here, but you'd have to believe that unwnd is so important to the gamestate on Night 1 that he'd be targeted by the Mafia, a protective, and a Parity Cop all in one night.

[House]

Lack of kill annoys me

Like, in the world unwnd was protected last night, this would be hilarious.

[Kazyan]

Remember that Gamma claimed Parity Cop only

after

the protective claim, and at E-1 to boot. If it were claimed beforehand, it wouldn't clearly be an >80% chance to break up the townblock. Free miselim on me and "PoE" miselim on unwnd.

I mean no offence to unwnd here, but you'd have to believe that unwnd is so important to the gamestate on Night 1 that he'd be targeted by the Mafia, a protective, and a Parity Cop all in one night.

I guess we could also be in the {Worst, Unwnd, [not Gamma]} wacky gambit world and I've got that wrong. It would explain why unwnd is backed into the 'I don't want to vote for Kaz' corner, because he'd need to get Gamma -> Kazyan miselimmed before the jig is up on him and duck. I'm trying to rule it out entirely but I can't make it go from "unlikely" to "not a chance", which is really scratching at me

[unwnd]

There's a guilty on Kaz, if all claims are to be believed, between a parity cop between Unwnd/Kaz and The Worst's town clear on Unwnd via doctor protection.

Remember that Gamma claimed Parity Cop only

after

the protective claim, and at E-1 to boot. If it were claimed beforehand, it wouldn't clearly be an >80% chance to break up the townblock. Free miselim on me and "PoE" miselim on unwnd.

I mean no offence to unwnd here, but you'd have to believe that unwnd is so important to the gamestate on Night 1 that he'd be targeted by the Mafia, a protective, and a Parity Cop all in one night.

To my credit, two mafia factions targeted me N1 in dogs v cats

[unwnd]

Anyways I've decided I hate my own vote and while I'm annoyed by lack of progress I'm not going against my own read.

VOTE: Meg

[Kazyan]

Yeah, nah.

I just don't see scum acting about a Mason crumb they've "caught" the way Kazyan did.

I'm actually leaning towards voting unwnd, here. Sue me.

I'm having trouble seeing how unwnd would be your

first

choice in this triangle unless you know something I don't. (don't answer that if it's not relevant)

[Kazyan]

It's the squirrel, isn't it

[MegAzumarill]

You do know my green flip + TW/Unwd scumteam usuallt just leads to us losing here?
We have a confirmed scum in a trio elimming anyone outside is risking a loss by picking the wrong member of the trio as the "town" after someone there green flips.
If we can flip scum in at least 2 lims from inside the trio, lim me, sure. But doing so now is just taking a guarenteed scum down to a gamble.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going down a meta rabbit hole rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay yeah tw is clearly posting like Betrayal in this game rather than 2170.
VOTE: Kazyan
I don’t think a no-kill gambit happened so atp I’m fine with assuming unwnd town.

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: kazyan
This or no lim is the way to go.

[Thestatusquo]

The TV screen flickers and changes

VoteCount 2.8

Kazyan (they) [ 5 ]

the worst, dannflor, lady lambdadelta, gamma emerald, megazumarill

No Elimination [ 2 ]

dwlee99, murdercat

MegAzumarill (doesn't care) [ 2 ]

kazyan, unwnd

Murdercat (he) [ 1 ]

gorkington

Not Voting [ 2 ]

pookythemagicalbear, house

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-13 13:25:31)

[House]

Nah.

Not feeling a Kaz or unwnd wagon, here.

I'd lim Gamma over either one of them, tbh.

Since that's unlikely,

VOTE: Meg

[Dwlee99]

I'd go gamma over Kazyan as well which is why I proposed no lim

[House]

I'd go gamma over Kazyan as well which is why I proposed no lim

No lim is worse than a bad lim.

It actively denies town information.

Come on man, you know this.

[MegAzumarill]

No lim is not worse than a mislim
If you want any lim over no lim why not kaz?

[House]

No lim is not worse than a mislim
If you want any lim over no lim why not kaz?

Because I townread Kaz, obviously.

Why else would I prefer to lim the player claiming a guilty over them?

Advocating for me to vote a townread is ridiculous.

Are you new?

[MegAzumarill]

I mean yes but I would like to resolve the trio.
It can probably self resolve with a no lim but there's too much resistance there RN to do anything about it.

[House]

I mean yes but I would like to resolve the trio.
It can probably self resolve with a no lim but there's too much resistance there RN to do anything about it.

Okay, well voting townreads is something I consider a Bad Thing.

Not a lot of things in this game are objectively Bad, but that's one of them.

Not to mention, wasting a no lim on d2 can come back and kick us in the ass closer to Elo, when we actually need scum's help to reduce the PoE.

Right now, the nk will provide minimal info compared to doing it in a mislim & lose scenario where scum has to knock out a potential mislim target.

[Dwlee99]

I'd go gamma over Kazyan as well which is why I proposed no lim

No lim is worse than a bad lim.

It actively denies town information.

Come on man, you know this.

But we are on evens

[MegAzumarill]

Alright, but why on me? This wagon on me is very slow moving and not being brought with any conviction. It feels like a bad wagon for associatives on flip.

Assume I am eliminated today
What information do we gain on a green flip?
What do we gain on a red flip?