newbie 2080: correct statements (this is over)

[Thynhith]

This game is super quiet. Thanks, Val, for putting in the effort. Your work on cook seems solid. Somehow it still feels like lhf, but it's a decent case.

VOTE: Cook

would appreciate someone explaining what lhf means?

[DArby]

@Darby why D3? We should be focusing on it this day. Not sure why you want to delay - your attitude is scummy to me

That doesn't surprise me.

I want to delay it d3 because we don't have an established pattern of night kills and I feel it's intentional misdirect but I can't prove it. I

really

don't want to have a d1 2.0 where it's filled with WIFOM.

Perhaps, perhaps. I see your point - scum gains nothing directly from killing Galron, so it's possible they're trying to throw us off. Better to ignore Galron's NK for now. In the meantime I'll read over Galron's iso

The whiplash tho.

What happened to you wanting to break this down today?

[DArby]

This game is super quiet. Thanks, Val, for putting in the effort. Your work on cook seems solid. Somehow it still feels like lhf, but it's a decent case.

VOTE: Cook

would appreciate someone explaining what lhf means?

low hanging fruit?

[Thynhith]

I want to see this flip. But it's time for me to leave work.

Funny people mentioning Facebones because there's something about that slot that doesn't sit right and I wanted to get deeper into it.

But there were a couple of townie things from Facebones as well, like when he pushed back at me.

And also:
"Spangled I'm back and forth on. Facebones leaning scum. Val leaning scum (very lightly bc of little content and I don't remember what the predecessor did)"

These are pretty much his final reads. He probably ends up townreading Val more towards EoD (see above post)
I believe he also said Margot was null, though his read may have changed.

It's really a shame he never gave much reasoning for these..

pedit: Ah interesting take by Galron. Given how Cook flipped, I do wonder if Val was tunneling her for towncred

[Thynhith]

@Darby why D3? We should be focusing on it this day. Not sure why you want to delay - your attitude is scummy to me

That doesn't surprise me.

I want to delay it d3 because we don't have an established pattern of night kills and I feel it's intentional misdirect but I can't prove it. I

really

don't want to have a d1 2.0 where it's filled with WIFOM.

Perhaps, perhaps. I see your point - scum gains nothing directly from killing Galron, so it's possible they're trying to throw us off. Better to ignore Galron's NK for now. In the meantime I'll read over Galron's iso

The whiplash tho.

What happened to you wanting to break this down today?

Well you've pointed out to me the NK was probably misdirection, and I agree. All we can get is wifom, so better to ignore it. I also realize my conclusions before about townreading spangled because of the NK may be somewhat flawed

[DArby]

I will get a somewhat-detailed readslist out sometime later today, if possible
not that you need to know that, but everyone needs something to look forward to, in their day

I don't like this post, but it may be a style thing.

I'm townleaning spangles.

I find this so funny. Galron made a really great point and then backtracked so hard. Spangled was absolutely in mind with this NK. Whether as scum or the area of misdirect I dunno.

Bleh. WIFOM.

[DArby]

I will get a somewhat-detailed readslist out sometime later today, if possible
not that you need to know that, but everyone needs something to look forward to, in their day

I don't like this post, but it may be a style thing.

I'm townleaning spangles.

I find this so funny. Galron made a really great point and then backtracked so hard. Spangled was absolutely in mind with this NK. Whether as scum or the area of misdirect I dunno.

Bleh. WIFOM.

[Thynhith]

Ok, lets assume the NK was intentional (even tho it likely wasn't). What are our logical conclusions?
Probably that Spangled felt pressured by Galron, or whoever scum are, they're distanced from Galron, interaction-wise. Spangled was the only one Galron was really scumreading/pressuring.
Since we know the NK was likely intentional, it's possible scum are trying to throw shade on spangled, or are really someone Galron's townread. By Galron flipping green, those townread would get towncred.
Who benefits from shade on spangled? Val, who was tunneling him and pushing for his elim D1. There's no one Galron was really townreading.

I'm falling down the wifom rabbit hole so fast, remind me not to do this again. ^^The above is all speculation, please take none of it as my opinion

[Roden]

Not a fan all the "wtf why Galron" reactions, I've done that so many times as scum.

I'm glad he wasn't pocketing me in the end but his death felt like a newbie mistake. Which yeah obviously this is a newbie game, but Galron ended the day hinting that he was going to protect Val. I don't think a PR would be so blatant, but newbscum high on an easy mis-elim might go for it.

I don't think Val is scum here as I'd expect him to kill me or Margot, since I labeled their back and forth as TvT. I think I'd actually be a pretty good kill since it would be low info and make it look like Galron had TMI'd that I was town. For that reason I'd also expect Margot to kill Val, so I don't think she's scum either.

[Roden]

This game is super quiet. Thanks, Val, for putting in the effort. Your work on cook seems solid. Somehow it still feels like lhf, but it's a decent case.

VOTE: Cook

would appreciate someone explaining what lhf means?

low hanging fruit?

Yep. Basically someone who is an easy push due to either bad early game play or just bad reputation.

[DArby]

Not a fan all the "wtf why Galron" reactions, I've done that so many times as scum.

I'm glad he wasn't pocketing me in the end but his death felt like a newbie mistake. Which yeah obviously this is a newbie game, but Galron ended the day hinting that he was going to protect Val. I don't think a PR would be so blatant, but newbscum high on an easy mis-elim might go for it.

I don't think Val is scum here as I'd expect him to kill me or Margot, since I labeled their back and forth as TvT. I think I'd actually be a pretty good kill since it would be low info and make it look like Galron had TMI'd that I was town. For that reason I'd also expect Margot to kill Val, so I don't think she's scum either.

I don't think we should focus too much on the nk right now. Just because you labeled it as TvT doesn't mean a kill of the other is the only logical conclusion. I'd think that'd place a lot of suspicion on the other actually because they had such a spat. But again, WIFOM.

What changed on your reads list?

[DArby]

Also I think it'd be weird to hide behind a kill from an argument off of one slot with one post saying it's TvT.

[MargotRosa]

I still don't like Darby.

[DArby]

I still don't like Darby.

[Thynhith]

I still don't like Darby.

For whatever reason? Or just your gut feeling? I note that you scumread both Darby and Galron for large amounts of filler. Now Galron's flipped green, still confident about your Darby read?

[Thynhith]

Tbh both of you guys "feel" town to me, it's mainly FB/Roden I'm concerned with

[MargotRosa]

Honestly it was smostly gut, but bolstered somewhat by Darby coming in immediately after thread reopened to instantly direct conversation to be about something very specific

[MargotRosa]

I do t trust myself to read Roden. Certainly not D2. I can maybe have a good look soon, but I lost to him recently and had very very little clue that they could even have been scum at all

[DArby]

Honestly it was smostly gut, but bolstered somewhat by Darby coming in immediately after thread reopened to instantly direct conversation to be about something very specific

I got off of work 3 hours early and I have a limited social life I don't know what to tell you.

[Spangled]

Val’s still alive because scum killed Galron for crumbing.

[Spangled]

just, sorry, haven’t read the last two pages, just wanted to say that quickly
his crumbs — or one of them, at least — were so obvious that I was pretty sure he wasn’t a PR, just either bad scum setting up a fakeclaim or a VT trying to draw the scum shot
what a play! what a fellow!

that’s the thing I deliberated on talking about before D1 end, btw, but I decided (rightly) it’d be better to wait, just in case he

was

in fact a PR, because to out him like that would be a wee bit embarrassing heh

[Spangled]

I

really

don't want to have a d1 2.0 where it's filled with WIFOM.

amen to that, if nothing else

[Spangled]

@Darby why D3? We should be focusing on it this day. Not sure why you want to delay - your attitude is scummy to me

That doesn't surprise me.

I want to delay it d3 because we don't have an established pattern of night kills and I feel it's intentional misdirect but I can't prove it. I

really

don't want to have a d1 2.0 where it's filled with WIFOM.

Perhaps, perhaps. I see your point - scum gains nothing directly from killing Galron, so it's possible they're trying to throw us off. Better to ignore Galron's NK for now. In the meantime I'll read over Galron's iso

The whiplash tho.

What happened to you wanting to break this down today?

maybe what you said convinced thynhith, or at least gave them a new idea or stance on it?
why are you jumping on that, there?

[Spangled]

Honestly it was smostly gut, but bolstered somewhat by Darby coming in immediately after thread reopened to instantly direct conversation to be about something very specific

I understand where you’re coming from with that, but I disagree
sometimes you have a thought that you have to get out there
and isn’t thynhith directing the conversation towards specific places just as much?

[DArby]

@Darby why D3? We should be focusing on it this day. Not sure why you want to delay - your attitude is scummy to me

That doesn't surprise me.

I want to delay it d3 because we don't have an established pattern of night kills and I feel it's intentional misdirect but I can't prove it. I

really

don't want to have a d1 2.0 where it's filled with WIFOM.

Perhaps, perhaps. I see your point - scum gains nothing directly from killing Galron, so it's possible they're trying to throw us off. Better to ignore Galron's NK for now. In the meantime I'll read over Galron's iso

The whiplash tho.

What happened to you wanting to break this down today?

maybe what you said convinced thynhith, or at least gave them a new idea or stance on it?
why are you jumping on that, there?

Hey hope you’re feeling better

And it felt weird that she didn’t expand or defend her position. She elaborated so there’s nothing more to comment on.