Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Saber]

Well, it's probably more of a playstyle difference and not tied to your alignment.

[Saber]

On unwnd:

He enters the game with the premise that we should be looking for stagehands on the Gamma wagon. The problem with that is that his slot is the only other wagon in the VC he links in 2204. It’s very strange for a contestant to look at 2 wagons, one of them being on their own slot, and think

We should look for stagehands on the other wagon

- a player that is unknown to him, rather than his own wagon which he should know to be on a contestant.

I also think it’s a faulty premise to be looking for stagehands primarily on the Gamma wagon if both wagons were on contestants, since stagehands would have very little stake in who gets executed and have no incentive to vote for Gamma over Galron.

[Saber]

I also think the motive behind certain posts of his are stagehand-motivated over contestant-motivated.

One example would be this unaligned read on Dunnstral and I:

If Saber flips scum at any point in this game she's not scum with Dunnstral based on something I just read

You can consider that vice-versa

If contestant-unwnd's goal is to convince players of this read and not flip one of us if the other if flips stagehand, he's done a lousy attempt at convincing players. I don't think he as a contestant would realistically think that anyone would follow this advice if he wasn't around, given he hasn't even quoted or expanded on why he believes this to be the case.

One particular post from Saber with her vote placed onto me (Galron) and a light finger pointed towards Dunn. Just seems extraordinarily misplaced and didn't seem like a distance attempt

Someone asks him why and he expands a little more on it, but still doesn't bother to quote the post. His motives seem to be more interested in appearing contestanty and like he's solving rather than actually convincing players of these reads he's posting.

[unwnd]

You're ascribing a definition of my behavior without proper context as to why I ignored galron's wagon

It's right there lol

[Saber]

Point me to it?

[unwnd]

If you don't feel particularly convinced about Cakez skitter you could weigh in on the other subjects on Gamma's wagon for me

it is weird that you are weighting the gamma wagon towards scum when a) your slot was on the wagon and more importantly b) your slot was the opposing wagon

yeah i was thinkign this too
i'm not sure why gamma's wagon is the focus and not galron's

Galron's wagon during that phase is not important as the one that is happening on him right now. I don't really enjoy looking backwards unless it's to reference something. My read on Cakez is a short dive and I plan to mostly continue to do the same.

On mobile but like keep reading and then come back if you still have the same problems

[petapan]

aren't you scumreading saber

[Saber]

unwnd, I'll read over everything more closely rather than skimming parts later, but your style seems very... theatrical? I get the feeling you know you need to turn this slot around and you're posting whatever things you can to try and change people's opinions. Would be useful to know if you post like this normally.

[unwnd]

I mean i feel like i need to try

That's the short answer

Yes peta i am but that doesn't mean I'm going to treat her Ike public enemy number one

This is our first interaction

[Saber]

I may also be viewing you through crimson-colored glassed because I thought Galron was a stagehand and the replacement didn't help my view of your slot.

[Saber]

I'm not reading this bye

Did you end up reading?

[Gamma Emerald]

reread the last 40ish posts from infinity's iso as a check and think she's fine. i don't find it, like, whelmingly towny and she's maybe faded a bit in terms of actively doing things but nothing particularly looks bad in there.


similarly took a look at saber because she was a blind spot for me and wanted to check that. posting styl is very formal which i'm always going to struggle with, on the one had she looks the part of a townie and on the other i just always find posts that are more carefully constructed to be suspicious. has mostly focused attention on the popular targets in gamma and galron but her reasons there have made sense they haven't been, like, scummy pushing necessarily. maybe a bit narrow focused but like i said earlier, looks the part. probably wouldn't be able to read without flips, wouldn't want to flip today

cakez's early game is bad but i think he gets better later. there is some stuff from him i think is maybe towny that i don't feel like going into. i don't think the reasons for suspecting him (lack of nuance, being behind on the game) are really alignment indicative. do want to see more from him but wouldn't really fade at this point in time

I like these reads rn
the cakez read also kinda lines up with my thoughts

[Saber]

I'm finding it really hard to read Cakez, he doesn't give many reasons for his reads.

[unwnd]

My cakez read is not that he's in catchup mode. I'm not sure how that thought was lost in translation.

I was in the car thinking about how you think I'm theatrical Saber. In what way would that determine a read on me? My short answer remains but I'm pretty sure I just like to write. I lean into prose because that's what makes mafia fun to me. Thinking about concepts and wording and such. I'm capable of faking it as scum to my own credit.

[Morning Tweet]

"That's odd. Has anyone seen..."

Gypyx is being prodded.

[Toogeloo]

Where all the votes at? Less talky talky, more votey votey.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Toogeloo
As you wish.

[ulyana]

[Gypyx]

yeah okay well look, think all you want of it but like, i finally managed to actually get back properly into mafia without half forcing me to play the game and think about peeps so like, i'll ride the high feel free to try to interprete it

so yeah the motivation didn't last long as y'all might've guessed lol

VOTE: toog

anyways, let's do the votey then

[Gypyx]

also i might be late on this, but imo the duel is that the players aren't restricted to shooting each other, but if they both choose to shoot someone else they'll die together

or maybe the first gunbearer can shoot some1 else, but that forces second gunbearer to put a bullet in him

[petapan]

why that vote

[Gypyx]

recall him as lacklust event 1, checked the ISO, and i still find stuff i'm iffy on, so might as well see where all this goes

[petapan]

you had said it was maybe town indicative in 1301?

[Dwlee99]

I'm not reading this bye

Did you end up reading?

Nope

[Gypyx]

huh, interesting

might need to do a meta dive there actually, or i could just leave him alone but not sure it's a good idea in mountainous