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[Gypyx]

there has been more expressed suspicion of other slots so being like okay toogeloo is one who’s the other? seems so wild to me

u think gamma's trying to steer the voting on toog if i'm understeanding correctly?

[Gypyx]

@gypyx why is saber town

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if you want something develloped i could try and do that though

yeah that would be helpful

on it then

i'll try to just do a quick rush of the posts to highlight what mostly came to my mind as sleep deprivation is kinda kicking in rn

[Morning Tweet]

"Fateful Duel"

Event Rules

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Decision 3.0.6

Ydrasse [2]:

petapan, Ydrasse

petapan [2]:

Taly, Toogeloo

Toogeloo [2]:

Gamma Emerald, Gypyx

unwnd [1]:

Saber

Infinity 324 [1]:

Dwlee99

Gypyx [1]:

Infinity 324

Not Voting [5]:

ulyana, SirCakez, Dunnstral, skitter30, unwnd

With 14 contestants remaining, it takes 8 votes to nominate a duelist.
The contestant with the second-most votes at majority or deadline will also be nominated. Plurality and seniority are in effect for both nominations.

The deadline for this decision is in:

(expired on 2021-10-19 17:07:18)

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[Gypyx]

I don't particularly understand Prism's tilt but don't see it as a paid actor tactic either, given it's going to draw more negative attention than positive. Will assume it's frustration regardless of how much she's being paid and move on.

My town slip is that I didn't even realize there were events until pooky mentioned it and I scrolled up

(sorry for not reading the setup before MT, now that I have it is really awesome though!!)

Uh we are not all VT

You're right. Anyone want to claim they aren't a VT?

I actually didn't read that part and was trying to draw a kill LMAO

I don't like this, I believe Look At Me I'm So Unpaid is the professional term in the industry.

(top quote) recognizing when to stop overthinking things

Gamma's behavior still doesn't make sense to me. He's calling his defender Infinity a 'dear friend', but then is strangely antagonistic to Dwlee who's also defending him.

I see skitter's point about it being counterproductive in the second case if he's paid actor, but..... I lost my train of thought and don't really know where I'm going with this. I'm probably confbiasing myself since I'm attributing erratic behavior to always be indicative of money, so never mind.

changing what he thinks mid-sentance, pretty damn town indicative, especially since in quote 3, saber inadvertedly admits that the bold way is something he would do as scum, but probably not think about it immediatly, so i think scum!saber would've rewrote the whole thing to remove traces of doubt

I mean
Gamma has been vote hopping like crazy all game
what is the motivation to stop doing it now?

That's the point, because it'll look bad for him if he does it now onto his counterwagon.

Correction: He's

afraid

it'll look bad for him voting a counterwagon but actually it would've been fine and probably what town would do.

here, the delay between the post really feels like some live thoughtprocessing, like "yeah that's curious" "oh wait scum would act like that too" which is pretty damn townie i think you'll agree?

i stopped reading the thread afterwards so it's a non-factor

pedit : beep

[Infinity 324]

here, the delay between the post really feels like some live thoughtprocessing, like "yeah that's curious" "oh wait scum would act like that too" which is pretty damn townie i think you'll agree

idk, i feel like it's just as likely to be "how can i justify this as being scummy"

[Gamma Emerald]

(top quote) recognizing when to stop overthinking things

Eh idk about this one, she was bent out of shape for a while about how I’d been acting
Also, saber is using female pronouns

[ulyana]

there has been more expressed suspicion of other slots so being like okay toogeloo is one who’s the other? seems so wild to me

u think gamma's trying to steer the voting on toog if i'm understeanding correctly?

not just the steering the voting but the like,

presentation of it as if that is the world we should be solving from?

and ope toogeloo's in who else? doesn't seem designed to sort toogeloo in anyway?

and like it feels like we have to hit a scums here i don't really know how to say that more clearly

event 1 we chose who we thought was the most likely scum right
event 2 the player we thought was the most likely scum killed a town, and there was a sabotage that killed another town
event 3 the only way we know that a scum is eliminated is if we put two scums in the duel, right?

there are still 4 scums and we don't know what future events have in store for us but we do know based on events so far that it isn't going to be easy to eliminate the scums even if we correctly identify right?

[Taly]

My WIM is feeling low at the moment.

Unwnd, what posts against Gamma did you disagree with most?

You want me to do Homework?

Would prefer not to but if it would help your wim I would lol

It would help, but only if your goal is to help me understand your POV and not appease me.

i mean idk fmpov it's like

i'm not doing a lot but i'm not doing a lot that's scummy either so ... the people who are being pushed on a lot might be scum + the people pushing me are looking for ways to not be on partners

Did you bait yourself to be in the duel just to check who would bite?

id say youre a little towny

but thats at odds w how i see the game atm

unless it was t/t day 1

What about the game makes you consider

Gamma/Galron

a TvT less probable than the alternative?

Didn't you just say I looked towny too

Like wtf

'Yes I would shoot u'

Insincerity alarm.

idk

i always scumread infinity without fail

it's hard to know if i just scumread something abt her

i just felt like she should have more standing wrt experience to know that i do this as town

she did say it was towny omgus which feels valid

i had less of an expectation but some for peta to know i do this as town sometimes but it's in character for him to not care about it tbh as either alignment so i didn't get far

i do understand you can be playing this way as town i just cannot townread you for it

i know it's unfair to expect someone to have a consistent energy level every game because that stuff varies, and i get that when i want to play laid back and it's annoying

but even if you're not motivated i'm holding you to the standard where you need to show

something

more than what you've done to be town

and so i'm going to vote you until either you towntell or one of us is dead

peta

, I'm trying to townread you and these posts aren't making it easier.

I haven't been paying attention to Ydra this game.

So I started skimming and I lean town, and here's why:

I think Ydrasse as mafia will start the game off strong but over time lose drive, and then you realize their posting is just fluffy but not filled with very hard analysis

In this game I don't see the falling off or the fluffy

Doubt

Ydra/Dunn

are S/S.

Despite my qualms, the amount of effort and being top poster by a long shot is quite unlikely to come from a stagehand, though. Contestants dominate that statistic a lot. I may just dislike his erratic playstyle.

Do you find a benefit of the doubt with slots like

Dunn/Peta/Galron

?

Not sure what you mean, can you rephrase the question?

Do you think any of your grievances with

Dunn/Peta/Galron (or now unwnd)

are attributable to town-related frustration or playstyle?

Nobody is scumreading Sircakez for being behind on the game

My read of him changes each time he posts.

I mean i feel like i need to try

That's the short answer

Yes peta i am but that doesn't mean I'm going to treat her Ike public enemy number one

This is our first interaction

I may also be viewing you through crimson-colored glassed because I thought Galron was a stagehand and the replacement didn't help my view of your slot.

The good faith is nice here.

sure, not much thought put into them tho, or at least, updated thoght

+5=IC // -5 = lockscum

petapan +0.75
ulyana +1
Ydrasse - 0.5
Saber +2
SirCakez idk
skitter30 +0.25
Infinity 324 +1.25
Toogeloo : i^n with n an integer
Galron -0.75
Dunnstral -0.5
Dwlee99 wait dwlee is in this game?
Taly +2.5
and Gamma Emerald! +3

Insincerity Alarm #2 beeps.

[Taly]

gamma

said something about

toog

being consenus? lol

[skitter30]

Trashing my Dunn read.

I end up doing this a lot and I'm prone to give him early passes by assuming intent. The fact of the matter is though that actually reading the game I just think Dunn's behavior is tepid. Yes, that's what Dunn does. He's not a very in-your-face player but there's a lot of stuff from him that just meshes together. I don't think Dunn is afraid to be bold. I don't think Dunn chooses to be unreadable when he's green. I think he leans onto that 'is he thinking about something' type of deal more when he's red. This is not a complete 180 it's more like my reasons to townread Dunn were all assumption and tone, but contextually I can't really see where he fits.

I'm just looking for an indication of what he wants. Even the most tepid version of Dunnstral has something I can affix him with. The only thing I could gather is that he really didn't like Ceph. OK. Ceph is dead now and Dunn is still fiddling with the inbetween and I'm not sure what happens next.

That being said my "Saber/Dunn aren't aligned" idea is still floating in my head. Making associative takes and then buying into what you see can be really dangerous. I'm not afraid to make mistakes I just don't want to lose sense of reality. There's nothing besides a complete fucking literal guess with that. I get that's what you do especially without a proper flip but I digress.

>.>

[skitter30]

reread dwlee, posts feel hollow, had a few things that i didn't really like, don't get a strong sense of a believable, like, process there, thought the read on infinity was not something scum would push in such a mediocre way but it's like, what are they doing here? i don't really get it. downgrade to scumlean, would fade

i kinda forgot dwlee was in this game too this phase tbh but i would vote them too

[Dunnstral]

I think Ydrasse as mafia will start the game off strong but over time lose drive, and then you realize their posting is just fluffy but not filled with very hard analysis

do you think this description of your expectation of scum!ydrasse lines up with taly’s play this game? and would you have a similar expectation of scum!taly?

I don't know how to read taly, no I wouldn't have a similar expectation, that's just for ydrasse.

[Dunnstral]

I don't know how to read taly with meta*

[skitter30]

wait what

whose consensus

[unwnd]

It would help, but only if your goal is to help me understand your POV and not appease me.

The posts I've made thus far are purely to do just that, but courtesy is still available regardless.

I don't like being mislimmed or misread regardless. I get it's part of the game but I'm spoiled by being typically townread and then maybe tinfoiled later in the game which tends to tilt me.

[skitter30]

VOTE: gypyx the rare scummy inconsistency imo

fwiw he seems pretty out of the game and not like caught up or anything
and i can see a universe whre town-him just forgot what he was thinking about the game earlier

the fact that toog is his preferred vote is kinda lazy but similarly i think it might just be motivated by the fact that gamma voted him right when gypyx started posting again
this isn't, like, good but i'm not sure it makes gypyx scum

[petapan]

you had said it was maybe town indicative in 1301?

One thing to consider is 1301 was during event 1, when we had very little to go on

to be clear i'm not trying to pull a gotcha here i just wanted to understand his progression on that read and try to pull him back into the game

[skitter30]

i think it's possible i may be slightly tunneled on the galron slot and want to give unwnd a bit more space rn

in the meantime
VOTE: dwlee

[petapan]

@gypyx do you think your idea of where scum is has changed due to knowing the true nature of the chair?

nah

my change of stance of toog was basically old me being like "but old toog wouldn't play bad like that !" while current me thinks his current posting is pushing things a bit too far there

pedit : although i hate the way it's formulated ulyana kinda got a point

also this is more or less my exact feeling on the matter so

[petapan]

reread dwlee, posts feel hollow, had a few things that i didn't really like, don't get a strong sense of a believable, like, process there, thought the read on infinity was not something scum would push in such a mediocre way but it's like, what are they doing here? i don't really get it. downgrade to scumlean, would fade

i kinda forgot dwlee was in this game too this phase tbh but i would vote them too

can you talk to me more about that ead because you thought they were scummy where i was just kind of, meh

also hi

[unwnd]

With my own finger guns I would be alright with voting Dwlee as well

Need to read Gypyx, just know that Dwlee is surface level awkward

[skitter30]

toog's kinda in too scummy to be scum territory for me and i guess i kinda just think he's better than that as scum?
and would be more informed about general happenings, it's pretty clear he's clueless about everything and isn't making an effort to change that

i don't, like, want him elo but i'm not convinced he's scum either

[skitter30]

reread dwlee, posts feel hollow, had a few things that i didn't really like, don't get a strong sense of a believable, like, process there, thought the read on infinity was not something scum would push in such a mediocre way but it's like, what are they doing here? i don't really get it. downgrade to scumlean, would fade

i kinda forgot dwlee was in this game too this phase tbh but i would vote them too

can you talk to me more about that ead because you thought they were scummy where i was just kind of, meh

also hi

hi!

are you just asking why i scumread them?

[unwnd]

Toog egging on the votes seemed out of character? I don't really feel like Toog gets impatient that easily given they spend a lot of time just lounging around and doing things at their own pace.

[petapan]

reread dwlee, posts feel hollow, had a few things that i didn't really like, don't get a strong sense of a believable, like, process there, thought the read on infinity was not something scum would push in such a mediocre way but it's like, what are they doing here? i don't really get it. downgrade to scumlean, would fade

i kinda forgot dwlee was in this game too this phase tbh but i would vote them too

can you talk to me more about that ead because you thought they were scummy where i was just kind of, meh

also hi

hi!

are you just asking why i scumread them?

yes