Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Taly]

I don't know how to read taly with meta*

I don't want to give you self-meta unless you ask for it. But otherwise, how can I help you read me better?

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skitter

Am I tunneled on

peta

? I feel like their reaction my suspicion of then has just been dismissive and I don't like their complacency with voteparking on

ydra

.

[skitter30]

- think their early game was trying to be LAMIST-y / trying to look uninformed about the setup
- making weird votes for which i cannot track their thought processes
- dislike their reactions to people calling them scummy (

the read kinda started a very long time ago and nothing about their content has really improved or made me change my mind

[Taly]

Want to see

peta

duel? I'd like to make some traction.

[skitter30]

Toog egging on the votes seemed out of character?

I don't really feel like Toog gets impatient that easily given they spend a lot of time just lounging around and doing things at their own pace.

this is possibly the worst of him for me
but he also, like, doesn't seem to actaully care about who ends up getting those votes which feels the opposite of scummy to me

like i think scum would care more if that makes sense

[petapan]

peta, I'm trying to townread you and these posts aren't making it easier.

i'm not really concerned with convincing you i'm town right now, in part because i don't think i'm in real danger of getting killed here, in part because your reasons for scumreading me seem to stem from disliking me being abrasive and pressuring people i see as not having done much, and ultimately i feel like we are operating on different wavelengths and are not going to see eye to eye here

[skitter30]

skitter Am I tunneled on peta? I feel like their reaction my suspicion of then has just been dismissive and I don't like their complacency with voteparking on ydra.

i think u kinda are, yeah. like i've been reading everything you've been saying about him and idk it doesn't look super compelling to me. i think some of his posts rubbed you the wrong way and it then just kinda spiraled from there

[unwnd]

Toog egging on the votes seemed out of character?

I don't really feel like Toog gets impatient that easily given they spend a lot of time just lounging around and doing things at their own pace.

this is possibly the worst of him for me
but he also, like, doesn't seem to actaully care about who ends up getting those votes which feels the opposite of scummy to me

like i think scum would care more if that makes sense

ISO dive just gives me a lot of nothing, their votes come as sheeping and it's real fluffy elsewhere. I think Toog is proud enough to want to contribute at some form but they really aren't. Is is just 'too blatant to be scummy' for you?

[skitter30]

i wouldn't even call it sheeping so much as voting randomly with a slight bias towards votes he saw recently

and yeah i think he would just be more involved/aware/agenda-y/trying to do stuff as scum

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: gypyx the rare scummy inconsistency imo

fwiw he seems pretty out of the game and not like caught up or anything
and i can see a universe whre town-him just forgot what he was thinking about the game earlier

sure, but it's unlikely he thinks about the same thing twice and comes to opposite conclusions i think

[petapan]

Toog egging on the votes seemed out of character?

I don't really feel like Toog gets impatient that easily given they spend a lot of time just lounging around and doing things at their own pace.

this is possibly the worst of him for me
but he also, like, doesn't seem to actaully care about who ends up getting those votes which feels the opposite of scummy to me

like i think scum would care more if that makes sense

i don't think it's impossible for him to play into that, the fact that he is just treating the game with open disdain is tilting because he's capable of putting in more than he has

i'm partly motivated here because i just got out of an offsite game where someone trolled and fucked around and barely played the game and scumclaimed repeatedly and town leveled themselves out of voting this person and let them make F5 before finally killing them


and like in general it feels like in games here there's been a case where people have had scum against the ropes for non-contributing and have just big brained themselves into thinking the answer has to be something more complicated


and i can't pretend it's guaranteed he's scum but really what he's doing is flat-out unacceptable and the fact that people are just sort of writing him off/giving a pass for it is not ok

[Infinity 324]

also this is more or less my exact feeling on the matter so

maybe i'm wrong then lol

UNVOTE:

[petapan]

also this is more or less my exact feeling on the matter so

maybe i'm wrong then lol

UNVOTE:

i just don't think it's an especially damning post from Gx but i'm biased off past experience y'know

i just want him to talk because he's readable if he talks

[skitter30]

VOTE: gypyx the rare scummy inconsistency imo

fwiw he seems pretty out of the game and not like caught up or anything
and i can see a universe whre town-him just forgot what he was thinking about the game earlier

sure, but it's unlikely he thinks about the same thing twice and comes to opposite conclusions i think

honestly he seems kinda checked out and i'm not sure he reread the same bits or read further on in toog's iso when he came to the latter conclusion
(like i'm not sure he was thinking about the same exact thing twice)

and i know i've had times where i thought x about soemthi9ng but changed my mind later on
so yeah i don't know if inherently find this scummy

also maybe i'm still biased from the prism iteration of the slot but my overall view of the slot is still +town

[unwnd]

I'm not trying to make some grandiose point but Dwlee vote to me just seems so flat and not really game-changing. Same thing with Toog/Gypyx really. I think I would want to use the execution for realistically a more controversial read matched with a (Toog/Gypyx) type person because I'm certain the Pooky switch is not an informed Toog/Gypyx/Dwlee groupscum decision, even if nobody has implied they think that could contain the whole groupscum.

As an aside, I don't know what people see in Saber but I also don't have the proper words at this time.

[skitter30]

Toog egging on the votes seemed out of character?

I don't really feel like Toog gets impatient that easily given they spend a lot of time just lounging around and doing things at their own pace.

this is possibly the worst of him for me
but he also, like, doesn't seem to actaully care about who ends up getting those votes which feels the opposite of scummy to me

like i think scum would care more if that makes sense

i don't think it's impossible for him to play into that, the fact that he is just treating the game with open disdain is tilting because he's capable of putting in more than he has

i'm partly motivated here because i just got out of an offsite game where someone trolled and fucked around and barely played the game and scumclaimed repeatedly and town leveled themselves out of voting this person and let them make F5 before finally killing them


and like in general it feels like in games here there's been a case where people have had scum against the ropes for non-contributing and have just big brained themselves into thinking the answer has to be something more complicated


and i can't pretend it's guaranteed he's scum but really what he's doing is flat-out unacceptable and the fact that people are just sort of writing him off/giving a pass for it is not ok

oh i don't disagree with you and i'm not giving him a pass
he needs to die before elo

like what he's doing is bad and awful and utterly not helpful
but i'm not convinced any of that makes him scum tho

[skitter30]

also this is more or less my exact feeling on the matter so

maybe i'm wrong then lol

UNVOTE:

kinda think you backed off of this a little too easily

[skitter30]

i think we just need to get 2 consensus scummy people in the chair and that would give us the bset outcome for the event overall

[Infinity 324]

also maybe i'm still biased from the prism iteration of the slot but my overall view of the slot is still +town

this feels like not the best way of treating the slot when prism is so good at scum, i feel like we should treat it more as a blank slate

and yes gypyx's content hasn't been too bad but it hasn't been super towny either, and i feel like a lot of other people are townier

even dwlee i feel the same way about them that you (and me) do about toog, which is that i think scum!him would care more and be doing more to get tred (i don't see the early game thing as a fake townslip tbh)

[Infinity 324]

also this is more or less my exact feeling on the matter so

maybe i'm wrong then lol

UNVOTE:

kinda think you backed off of this a little too easily

holding onto the read means that a) i'm claiming pets and gypyx are both scum but i townread peta or b) gypyx is scummy for having a thought process that town also had which is pretty questionable

[unwnd]

i think we just need to get 2 consensus scummy people in the chair and that would give us the bset outcome for the event overall

If the consensus is Dwlee/Gypyx/Toog because the more involved crowd is off-limits then I don't think it's going end up well

And if the consensus is me then you already know lol. I've been thinking about just letting Ydrasse in, but the only person who really has said 'i think she's scum' point blank is peta. Everyone else is skirting around it or disagrees

[skitter30]

i mean i'm gonna look at it as a composite of both people, i can't just toss out half of it altogether

and i guess gypyx is just the opposoite for me. it hasn't been good but like it isn't scummy either, and most of what he's doing can be reasonably explained by irl things that he's alluded to (tests, being tired, etc)

i don't know anything about dwlee so i can't speak for any meta there, i'm not sure i've even ever been in a game with them before

[petapan]

I'm not trying to make some grandiose point but Dwlee vote to me just seems so flat and not really game-changing. Same thing with Toog/Gypyx really. I think I would want to use the execution for realistically a more controversial read matched with a (Toog/Gypyx) type person because I'm certain the Pooky switch is not an informed Toog/Gypyx/Dwlee groupscum decision, even if nobody has implied they think that could contain the whole groupscum.

As an aside, I don't know what people see in Saber but I also don't have the proper words at this time.

refer to my immediate rant about people not wanting to kill players who aren't trying to solve the game and wanting something ~spicy~ instead that ends up being a miss

if you want something else, make a case but these feeble little protests do nothing

how much of the game have you read, anyway?

[Taly]

I just feel disconnected at the moment because people are either townreading or shelving me but also find my POV uncompelling or do not engage with it. The two premises don't mix logically. I'm either wrong or someone is deceptive.

I don't know what to do here.

Also bothered that the two slots with replacement slots were also slots that I had a solid read trajectory on, which was disrupted.

I think my drive to punish slots I believe have been bad for thread health is obstructing my reads, being told "do something else" isn't vibing.

[Dwlee99]

Hi people

[Dwlee99]

i mean i'm gonna look at it as a composite of both people, i can't just toss out half of it altogether

and i guess gypyx is just the opposoite for me. it hasn't been good but like it isn't scummy either, and most of what he's doing can be reasonably explained by irl things that he's alluded to (tests, being tired, etc)

i don't know anything about dwlee so i can't speak for any meta there, i'm not sure i've even ever been in a game with them before

Hurt you don't remember me tunneling my kerset/you/cakez solve in C9++