newbie 2080: correct statements (this is over)

[Val89]

It seemed like DArby was very keen to secure the elimination of Cook.
I thought I'd give people an update on where everyone was at in regards to Cook's setup-breaking idea, and DArby took that information and essentially said "case closed, done and done" when I was expecting a bit more of a debate or exchanging of ideas?

Why did you not say what you were feeling about this at the time?

Do you not have any thoughts on the other slots?

[Facebones]

Because it was crazy late at night when I made that post. I slept afterwards and worked all weekend. The next time I logged in everyone seemed to have accepted it and moved on.

I think it's a definite possibility that this is scum Roden trying to incite paranoia

Not a fan all the "wtf why Galron" reactions, I've done that so many times as scum.

I'm glad he wasn't pocketing me in the end but his death felt like a newbie mistake. Which yeah obviously this is a newbie game, but Galron ended the day hinting that he was going to protect Val. I don't think a PR would be so blatant, but newbscum high on an easy mis-elim might go for it.

I'll keep you updated on the others when I've had another read through or 3

[Facebones]

Incite paranoia is the wrong choice of words...
Cast shade is better

[Val89]

Because it was crazy late at night when I made that post. I slept afterwards and worked all weekend. The next time I logged in everyone seemed to have accepted it and moved on.

Which post are we talking about here? 157?

Apologies for my lurky play, but for me it's easier to class people as either town or scum from their interactions with other players and seeing which ones I think are legitimate. It might be stupid or whatever, but I feel if I interrupt these people's interactions it'll interfere with the flow and I won't be able to get a clear a read on them as what I could.

I'll keep you updated on the others when I've had another read through or 3

The reason why I asked you what conclusions you had come to from watching from a distance was because, if it fact what you said about why you had been inactive was true, I was kind of expecting you to have some thoughts already but you just hadn't shared to avoid 'interfering'.

Can we have the rough drafts now, so its possible to attempt to evaluate the truth of that statement?

[Roden]

I'm here. Sorry I've been quiet, work kicked my ass the last couple days, I haven't had much sleep, and I just went on vacation.

Game state feels weird from what I've skimmed, a lot of people seem too scared to seriously push anything. Nothing's happened to affect my reads from the last time I gave them either.

Does anyone have a town case for Darby or Thyn? Because we should be voting there, I don't like the Facebones votes. I can town case him later tonight if no one sees the town posts that have pinged me, from there we can probably just PoE solve.

If there any posts I missed that somebody wanted me to respond to, could you quote it please? I'm drifting off and on into sleep.

[Val89]

I don't like the Facebones votes. I can town case him later tonight if no one sees the town posts that have pinged me

I wonder if you have had a chance to read the last couple of posts we have had from Facebones? He was sat at null for me coming into today, and I did share concerns he might just be the low-hanging fruit, but his responses in the last few hours have brought him a bit south of null for me.

That being the case, I think we ought to hear that town case once you are awake and ready to give it.

[MargotRosa]

Because it was crazy late at night when I made that post. I slept afterwards and worked all weekend. The next time I logged in everyone seemed to have accepted it and moved on.

I think it's a definite possibility that this is scum Roden trying to incite paranoia

Not a fan all the "wtf why Galron" reactions, I've done that so many times as scum.

I'm glad he wasn't pocketing me in the end but his death felt like a newbie mistake. Which yeah obviously this is a newbie game, but Galron ended the day hinting that he was going to protect Val. I don't think a PR would be so blatant, but newbscum high on an easy mis-elim might go for it.

I'll keep you updated on the others when I've had another read through or 3

Given that the reason you gave for lurking was that you wanted to avoid interfering, and this is what came from it, these posts you've made and flipping your narrative last minute make me feel veeery confident that we've caught one.

Happy to wait for Roden tho

[DArby]

Does anyone have a town case for Darby or Thyn?

I'd also like to see your case against Thyn.

@Margot if FB flips red would you consider Spangled d3?

[MargotRosa]

Does anyone have a town case for Darby or Thyn?

I'd also like to see your case against Thyn.

@Margot if FB flips red would you consider Spangled d3?

Spangled is my one really solid Town read right now. Sorry, but no.

If that gets me killed, then fine. Feel free to reassess at a later date

[MargotRosa]

That's as explicit as I'm willing to get as far as my attitude to Spangled is concerned

[DArby]

Hm. Noted.

[DArby]

I'd rather push someone else for now and then come back to FB at the EoD if needed.

I don't feel like speculating and voting for someone else who isn't here. That's both boring and gets us nowhere.

God forbid FB flips green too then we enter d3 with almost no margin of error.

I'd rather have the push for me or Thyn now so we can get

somewhere

more productive.

[DArby]

I'm confident in my Margot and Val townreads. If scum is here and I have any say town has lost.

I'm not touching reading Roden with a 10-foot pole right now. I want to trust him but that's been the downfall of many other townies before so not yet.

Thyn feels like a wallflower and a lot of her posts feel they're accomplishing something but a quick look at her ISO it seems a lot of her posts are direct quotes of others or asking others questions. The difference between here and Spangled is here it feels more aggressive.

I've spoke enough on Spangled as is.

I don't see how anyone can actively justify FB without a PR claim.

Ideally, I want to take out FB before anyone else but we're wasting our time waiting on him to come around with potential content. I'd rather we get content from active players now and then circle back before the day's end. More could have been accomplished d1 and I don't like making the same mistake twice.

[Val89]

I don't see how anyone can actively justify FB without a PR claim.

What does this mean? "Justify" as in still read Facebones town?

[Val89]

Spangled, could you tell us how your reads on Margot and Darby have evolved since yesterday?

[MargotRosa]

I'm confident in my Margot and Val townreads. If scum is here and I have any say town has lost.

I'm not touching reading Roden with a 10-foot pole right now. I want to trust him but that's been the downfall of many other townies before so not yet.

Thyn feels like a wallflower and a lot of her posts feel they're accomplishing something but a quick look at her ISO it seems a lot of her posts are direct quotes of others or asking others questions. The difference between here and Spangled is here it feels more aggressive.

I've spoke enough on Spangled as is.

I don't see how anyone can actively justify FB without a PR claim.

Ideally, I want to take out FB before anyone else but we're wasting our time waiting on him to come around with potential content. I'd rather we get content from active players now and then circle back before the day's end. More could have been accomplished d1 and I don't like making the same mistake twice.

This honestly feels like a good justification to policy lim FB. But I hate that it would be the second of two eliminations

[MargotRosa]

Nearly just posted my complete read list, but I'm actually learning that is maybe not the smartest thing to be doing every five seconds.

I'm developing a very specific line of thought, so please don't end day 2 too quickly.

For now; DArby, Spangled, Val: Town

[DArby]

I don't see how anyone can actively justify FB without a PR claim.

What does this mean? "Justify" as in still read Facebones town?

Yes sir

[DArby]

I am interested in hearing Roden's read tho.

[DArby]

This honestly feels like a good justification to policy lim FB. But I hate that it would be the second of two eliminations

I would agree with you if this was d1 but I'm more hesitant of doing a policy d2.

[Val89]

But I hate that it would be the second of two eliminations

Was this the complete thought, or was there a word missing here? I'm struggling to understand what you wanted to say here.

I understand you don't want the day to end too quickly, but you are voting Facebones and said earlier you were "veeery confident that we've caught one." It wouldn't

be

a policy lim if that's the case, no?

[MargotRosa]

But I hate that it would be the second of two eliminations

Was this the complete thought, or was there a word missing here? I'm struggling to understand what you wanted to say here.

I understand you don't want the day to end too quickly, but you are voting Facebones and said earlier you were "veeery confident that we've caught one." It wouldn't

be

a policy lim if that's the case, no?

As in, we'd have had two eliminations that were more or less policy eliminations.

Certainly the case with Cook.

Here it's more complicated. I think FB is scum, but I'm making the case that even if that weren't the case, it's justifiable as a policy elimination, which I presented with the caveat that it would feel bad to have done that twice in a row

[Val89]

Understood.

For what it is worth, I think Facebones is looking fairly scummy following his response to questioning today.

In normal circumstances, I would be voting there after that, but I still can't shake the feeling that Spangled was TMIing FB as town D1. Thyn tells me he considers Spangles' read to be legitimate, and it's a playstyle thing, but I found that a little unsatisfying given I noticed he took issue at Galron giving a town read on Roden when Rodens' ISO at the time was more comprehensive than FBs.

We are waiting to hear from Roden; I'll see if Spangle's answers can help me resolve the problem I am having, and I think we need to hear a little more from Thyn as to where he stands on issue of Facebones, because I am still struggling to move past a null read there - I've read through the ISO again tonight and still nothing is jumping out in either direction.

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