I don’t think Toog’s plan has been to get TRed, just to coastIn post 3009, Infinity 324 wrote:disagree on toog. most likely outcome is not that scum!them decided to do nothing and try to get townread
this is not true i've been thinking about this all dayIn post 2981, unwnd wrote:So what am I to think about the fact (Galron) was spared over Pooky? Not much, because nobody else seems to care.
I think this is ridiculousIn post 2981, unwnd wrote:Taly is a big question mark for me because they don't fit in my mind. This is a curious (?) where I don't think they're townie but also not null. They're a hard elimination and in my absolute tinfoil paranoia I think they're being protected by scum. I have less on the motivations of why, but I feel their presence to not be something that relieves me. Maybe it's their nature to weird, but I can't townread weird because something tells me that Taly is probably decent at his own weirdness and using it as a means to be townread. There's nothing entirely wrong with his approach but that alone makes me question because it is presented in such a processed and orderly manner where every appearance by him is very deliberate. It would be townie in another game but not this one, and not based on the events that have happened.
this just doesn't make sense to me - this seems like just a gut read or something?In post 2981, unwnd wrote:Anyways, about Skitter. I just disagree with her. I disagree with her a lot and often. Does disagreement need to be the reason why she is scum? No. No I didn't want to believe that, and I was trying to find compromise and not end up in a situation like Siege where I backed out of my townread of her because we came to a disagreement. I think Skitter is very not afraid to put her stake in things but that makes it dangerous because I've seen her do so to dissuade town. It's just this dismissive attitude that is rubbing me wrong and I wish it didn't.
I do understand this though so thanksIn post 2981, unwnd wrote:Saber is scum. I feel it in my bones. I have less words about this but goddamn. I have not felt good about one fucking post they made. It's so agenda-driven and handpicked out of the right arguments to make at the right time. It's calculated and not in the sense of a townie who is just making use of their time. It's calculated to where it's always just 'doing enough' and no more. That's my problem. She does enough to not be scrutinized but goes no further. It's missing the blemishes that make up townies where they don't know the answers. It's the exact fucking thing I look for and at this rate? I think I'm pretty damn good at recognizing it. She had just the right amount of push onto me and reason to vote me and now she's backstage in her PT because job is done. Conversation and interaction with her even from an outside perspective just read like someone who is trying to sell you on the appearance of a townie. And you're all fucking buying it and it annoys me.
No and yes. Your predecessor,In post 3043, unwnd wrote:Is this because you think your reads aren't good? Susceptible to pocket? Still would like a little bit more cause yeah my thoughts were genuine and this is opportunity to get a more personal looka t you.In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
NullIn post 3053, SirCakez wrote:Unwnd if you are town here I could really use your thoughts on Dunn
Yes that is one of the things I highlighted and was concerned about lolIn post 3052, SirCakez wrote:aly literally shows up so randomly
|In post 3054, Taly wrote:No and yes. Your predecessor,In post 3043, unwnd wrote:Is this because you think your reads aren't good? Susceptible to pocket? Still would like a little bit more cause yeah my thoughts were genuine and this is opportunity to get a more personal looka t you.In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.Galron, was right. I'm very susceptible to AtE.
I also have unpredictable read progressions.
I usually die the moment I get a strong solve.
I've had very strong elo performances but I still tend to lose them because scum takes advantage of people misinterpreting me.
or i guess another way of saying what i'm thinking about him:In post 3028, petapan wrote:i don't care if he's uninvested he's capable of stringing togethere coherent reasoning and what he's shading people for is just scummy
also it's fucking BS to say I'm accusing everyone when Peta is staging this to look like I accused all of these people at the same time when in reality this is a game-wide pregression.In post 2982, petapan wrote:so here is a list of everyone cakez has scumread this game, and his reasons for doing so:
Prism: acting "unnatural"
Toogeloo: "worse than usual", "just really fake". mostly just calls his posts bad. "vote on Prism blows", "could be scum"
Cephrir: "trying to look like his town game but it's not actually his towngame", looks "forced", "AtE stuff like Sadface, I was pumped, etc", "leaning on [emotion words] a lot this game"
Dwlee99: bad reaction to a fos from skitter, "OMGUSed so blatantly"
Gamma Emerald: vote shifted a lot, "no committal to anything", was reluctant to vote galron but didn't like the timing of galron's vote on him
Galron: didn't like 1120 because it was "a tonal waffle" (wtf??), posting on page 57 is "desperate", "feelreally fake", asked why cakez hasn't made a case on him, "looks bad" from the sabotage but could be "a red herring"
unwnd (separated for ease of reference): "i am feeling you don't actually believe I am scum here", "kind of buddying Skitter", "entrance to this game was in really bad faith", selfvote is "LAMISTy scum tactic" and "a lot of "woe is me" bs"
Dunnstral: "feels extremely underwhelming", doesn't believe that Dunn believes he's scum (because...?)
ulyana: didn't like her "response to being accused"
petapan: "I TR other people more", "fits into a scumteam that sabotaged that event", "I vaguely feel Peta is trying to put me off by TRing me for not immediately diving on him", pooky was a "loud voice" and needed to go so i could "dominate the gamestate" (again, this is terrible because it makes absolutely no sense, an inactive team would be just as motivated to remove pooky)
Infinity: "absent and uninfluential", voted gypyx for making a mistake, "feels like Inf was just looking to drop a vote somewhere and picked Gyp" (this one is especially ba. who does this? does cakez really think infinity plays scum by "just looking to drop a vote somewhere"?)
which game?In post 3039, ulyana wrote:i was miselimmed once very sad experience +(In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
skitter was even trying her hardest to save me!
fair enough, i'm not deeply attached to this read it's just not the first place i would lookIn post 3050, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t think Toog’s plan has been to get TRed, just to coastIn post 3009, Infinity 324 wrote:disagree on toog. most likely outcome is not that scum!them decided to do nothing and try to get townread
So while unwnd’s specific logic is not good that doesn’t make the read wrong IMO
When did you not like Dunn?In post 3064, SirCakez wrote:the people actually in my scum pool right now are (peta, dunn, unwnd) and then maybe Infinity and Ydrasse but I've gotten blowback on those
accusing everyone my ass
I feel like the homework’s already kinda been done as to why it would be (2), he was active and TRed, and was pretty sensible regarding setup spec and how to scum hunt using thatIn post 3042, Dwlee99 wrote:This makes me think that we actually should really look at pooky's posts cause scum either 1.) Didn't do the math to realize that it doesn't decrease the chance of them dying (I haven't done the math for more than 1 scum in a list but I suspect it is the same) or 2.) Really wanted Pooky dead.
Actually I Ctrl+F'ed Dunn while ISOing youIn post 3064, SirCakez wrote:the people actually in my scum pool right now are (peta, dunn, unwnd) and then maybe Infinity and Ydrasse but I've gotten blowback on those
accusing everyone my ass
