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[unwnd]

Er, so you do think peta is bad faithing you after all? I thought he was in the same boat as me.

[SirCakez]

@Cakez

You were pretty much about 'Toog being scum' early on and now you're at them being null and even some posts that read like you think they're town? Why? What changed

With Toog - they are just trying so little that it almost feels too scummy to be scum, you know? A

nd I have this instinct that scum is in the higher-activity players and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial.

Where does a Toog flip leave us regardless of alignment? Nowhere really.
And my other stronger scumreads all have Toog as someone they'd like to elim and it just feels wrong - someone else agreed with me on this I forget who.

Yet your main scumread in Dunn who isn't active at all. Who fits there?

True but look at Dunn's ISO vs Toog's ISO. There's a lot more to work with in regards to Dunn.
The other possible flips that would be useful are Peta, Infinity or you.
Peta attacked me for saying Infinity's low WIM was scummy but it just doesn't feel town here. This game isn't toxic, there's a lot of material to work with, I don't think it's IRL related. So why is Infinity barely playing?

[petapan]

it's such a weirdass defense when there has been like absurd resistance to even the idea we should vote toog at some point in the undefined future

[SirCakez]

Er, so you do think peta is bad faithing you after all? I thought he was in the same boat as me.

I mean I was open to engaging him and then he posts garbage like this

@Cakez

You were pretty much about 'Toog being scum' early on and now you're at them being null and even some posts that read like you think they're town? Why? What changed

With Toog - they are just trying so little that it almost feels too scummy to be scum, you know? A

nd I have this instinct that scum is in the higher-activity players and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial.

Where does a Toog flip leave us regardless of alignment? Nowhere really.
And my other stronger scumreads all have Toog as someone they'd like to elim and it just feels wrong - someone else agreed with me on this I forget who.

Yet your main scumread in Dunn who isn't active at all. Who fits there?

lmao can't even maintain a consistent thought line

so yeah it seems like bad faith

[petapan]

True but look at Dunn's ISO vs Toog's ISO. There's a lot more to work with in regards to Dunn.

what the fuck does that even mean

[unwnd]

I'm still not sure what you're implying here.

Believe me, I am a huge tinfoil guy. Sometimes my tinfoils end up being eureka moments and other times they don't exist and I'm only entertaining more interesting games in my mind. Fun but not productive, and probably not a good thing. What is exactly your tinfoil here in regards to 'active people are trying to push toog into limbait'?

Just list some names. Doesn't have to be definitive.

[SirCakez]

it's pretty straightforward

Spoiler: dunn recent posts

whatever. Just eliminate me within the next hour or so so I can cry myself to sleep.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

E-1

I have to go to bed.

Intent to hammer Gamma tomorrow morning

I mainly want to give Gypyx time to catch up more.

I'm going to hammer I guess. I think we need a flip, or at least a view of how these days are going to go down.

My vote on Gamma wasn't nearly "the worst", nor is it even particularly ai, arguably. Trying to paint this as me having a substantial say in what happened when it was pretty much decided already without any input from me is a bad look.

Not every mafia game needs to be painful

How is my "defense awful"

All I've been doing is pointing to facts

Why is me voting Gamma scummy?

I haven't been paying attention to Ydra this game.

So I started skimming and I lean town, and here's why:

I think Ydrasse as mafia will start the game off strong but over time lose drive, and then you realize their posting is just fluffy but not filled with very hard analysis

In this game I don't see the falling off or the fluffy

Nobody is scumreading Sircakez for being behind on the game

I think Ydrasse as mafia will start the game off strong but over time lose drive, and then you realize their posting is just fluffy but not filled with very hard analysis

do you think this description of your expectation of scum!ydrasse lines up with taly’s play this game? and would you have a similar expectation of scum!taly?

I don't know how to read taly, no I wouldn't have a similar expectation, that's just for ydrasse.

I don't know how to read taly with meta*

unwnd is an innocent anime girl

I don't know how to read taly with meta*

I don't want to give you self-meta unless you ask for it. But otherwise, how can I help you read me better?

--

skitter

Am I tunneled on

peta

? I feel like their reaction my suspicion of then has just been dismissive and I don't like their complacency with voteparking on

ydra

.

I don't want meta, I want to figure things out from this game

like it felt like lights were off and i could relate to that

Can you clarify what “lights were off” means?

it is like,

sometimes i am very excited for a game almost always if i sign up and stay signed up i am very much excited to be playing it

but then the game starts and i flip the switch to turn on the lights and the lights do not come on

and it feels like i can't make sense of anything and all of my thoughts are like 'yup they are a player in this game'

and then others are like 'she must be a scums!' or worse they are like why don't you just try flipping that switch again it's right there and i am like that's not how lights work

Well it feels like we have been talking in circles for several 10's of pages

VOTE: SirCakez

Spoiler: toog recent posts

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ydrasse

UNVOTE:
VOTE: unwnd

Bang bang, mother huggers.

Wow. No fun.

Why do people think the two duelists will shoot at each other?

UNVOTE:

Everyone has so many town reads.

"everyone everyone," mom and dad included.

[petapan]

shrug i clicked open the thread saw that and jumped on it because anyone operating from an intellectually honest POV would recognize the dissonance in those ideas (scum are active/dunn is scum) but you're operating from an agenda and are using weaselly justifications

[unwnd]

Cakez you are so in the moment that it's almost bad. I think it's bad because there's no litigation to anything you say. You're just how you are and like that's fine if you're town but you're being scummy.

..Do you think you're not? I doubt that because everytime someone goes 'cakez you're being scummy' you go 'that's just how i am!!'

If you don't want people to focus on meta, why have that be your main defense?

[petapan]

anyone who's not full of shit would recognize the dunn posts quoted there are a lot better

(also not out of line for him as town, but lolmeta)

[SirCakez]

Cakez you are so in the moment that it's almost bad. I think it's bad because there's no litigation to anything you say. You're just how you are and like that's fine if you're town but you're being scummy.

..Do you think you're not? I doubt that because everytime someone goes 'cakez you're being scummy' you go 'that's just how i am!!'

If you don't want people to focus on meta, why have that be your main defense?

I literally just said I think your reason for scumreading me makes sense

anyone who's not full of shit would recognize the dunn posts quoted there are a lot better

(also not out of line for him as town, but lolmeta)

you totally missed the point dude this is why I think you're not actually trying to sort me
you were like "how are dunn and toog different" and I pointed it out and then you're like "obviously Dunn looks better from those posts"
like that's not the point I was making? very obviously not?

[SirCakez]

i was reviewing and my Toog tinfoil is probably wrong because the main two people pushing him were Gamma and Unwnd who aren't at the top of my scumpile atm
so yeah

[SirCakez]

i think I got people/posts mixed up

[unwnd]

I literally just said I think your reason for scumreading me makes sense

Uh..if it's right then what then?

I guess I'm just feeling a bit bizzare that you accept you're scummy and I'm right for scumreading it but it's still wrong cause

If you're town it has to be lol.

[SirCakez]

I literally just said I think your reason for scumreading me makes sense

Uh..if it's right then what then?

I guess I'm just feeling a bit bizzare that you accept you're scummy and I'm right for scumreading it but it's still wrong cause

If you're town it has to be lol.

I know that I'm a naturally scummy people - I could quote literally dozen of miselims to prove it.
I'd rather just keep playing and see if we can agree on something rather than spend tons of time and energy trying to "prove myself" to you because that never works anyways and I just don't have the energy for it these days.

[petapan]

Cakez you are so in the moment that it's almost bad. I think it's bad because there's no litigation to anything you say. You're just how you are and like that's fine if you're town but you're being scummy.

..Do you think you're not? I doubt that because everytime someone goes 'cakez you're being scummy' you go 'that's just how i am!!'

If you don't want people to focus on meta, why have that be your main defense?

I literally just said I think your reason for scumreading me makes sense

anyone who's not full of shit would recognize the dunn posts quoted there are a lot better

(also not out of line for him as town, but lolmeta)

you totally missed the point dude this is why I think you're not actually trying to sort me
you were like "how are dunn and toog different" and I pointed it out and then you're like "obviously Dunn looks better from those posts"
like that's not the point I was making? very obviously not?

your claim is that there's "a lot more to work with"

that doesn't equate to any reasonable justification for him being scum

you know this

[Dwlee99]

Stop this shit fight and flip infinity/dunn please. Cakez is town for agreeing with me on both of these reads

[unwnd]

Give me a readlist

Something concrete. I just get a bit worn by your proclamations but then we could be 10 pages later and you won't even recall them or move on to something else lol

[SirCakez]

Cakez you are so in the moment that it's almost bad. I think it's bad because there's no litigation to anything you say. You're just how you are and like that's fine if you're town but you're being scummy.

..Do you think you're not? I doubt that because everytime someone goes 'cakez you're being scummy' you go 'that's just how i am!!'

If you don't want people to focus on meta, why have that be your main defense?

I literally just said I think your reason for scumreading me makes sense

anyone who's not full of shit would recognize the dunn posts quoted there are a lot better

(also not out of line for him as town, but lolmeta)

you totally missed the point dude this is why I think you're not actually trying to sort me
you were like "how are dunn and toog different" and I pointed it out and then you're like "obviously Dunn looks better from those posts"
like that's not the point I was making? very obviously not?

your claim is that there's "a lot more to work with"

that doesn't equate to any reasonable justification for him being scum

you know this

That's not even my argument for Dunn being scum and you know that because I literally just requoted my argument

[SirCakez]

Yeah but why Dunn? I get you don't wanna waffle but I still wanna know where you go next if that's wrong. Or if you're not thinking about it. I empathize about feeling stuck and shit.

I laid out my Dunn reasoning here

VOTE: dunnstral
I think this is now my strongest scumread
He is playing to his scum meta to a T - drive-by posting, lack of investment, few memorable posts or pushes
I can't really think of a scum team in this playerlist that doesn't have Dunn in it while I could see Peta or Unwnd not being in one

VOTE: dunnstral
I think this is now my strongest scumread
He is playing to his scum meta to a T - drive-by posting, lack of investment, few memorable posts or pushes
I can't really think of a scum team in this playerlist that doesn't have Dunn in it while I could see Peta or Unwnd not being in one

his entire day 2 is totally awful - literally no scumhunting at all, just occasional reads drops and defending himself for spending all of day 1 on Gamma

[SirCakez]

Give me a readlist

Something concrete. I just get a bit worn by your proclamations but then we could be 10 pages later and you won't even recall them or move on to something else lol

i can do a readslist

[unwnd]

FTR I'm fine with putting Dunn up

I'm null on him, but if Cakez is scum I doubt he's trying to distance Dunnstral cause it'd be more of an event IMO

[Dunnstral]

and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial.

Why don't you try to do that then?

[petapan]

That's not even my argument for Dunn being scum and you know that because I literally just requoted my argument

yes great i think your reasoning is weasel shit

[Dwlee99]

I'm gonna try a pooky trick: this day phase should end by page 130, preferably with Dunn and infinity being the ones shooting each other. If you disagree, stop doing so