Slaughter Hour: Grand Debut | Deliberation Room Blue

[petapan]

skitter is like, there was a lot of tension between her and dunn, which is good

but she didn't really bury him and that bothers me

on a sheer gut level she doesn't feel like scum but i dunno. i don't think i go after her now but i don't want to clear her for it



taly's stance on dunn is kind of

all over the place and it's not great

[petapan]

oh, i should add, because this is important:

I asked Tweet when scum chose when the bullet would be loaded in the gun, and the only answer she gave was that it was before she made the announcement

this is worth considering with regard to stuff from that phase because i think it's likely, but not certain they had to do so before the hammer

[Gamma Emerald]

cakez is going to be insufferable if he had multiple correct reads that i was shielding

Better that he is and he's town

I don't really personally care about pelts

It's all relative to me

yup, dead scum is dead scum, though it is fun to hit several of them squarely with solid scumreads
I dunno how but I feel like there've been multiple games in recent history where my reads have been basically top-class (Radio Buzz, Dead Silence 3, Gensokyo technically because while I didn't always push scum I helped drive people to eliminate scum on days 1 and 2). I don't know what the magic formula is and tbh I don't care to try and find out because I think it's best if I just learn my strengths naturally. My biggest issue is that despite working to curb the habit, I still end up doing the thing called out in WSB where I end up hard TRing scum and blocking elims on them, it's not an all-the-time thing but I've become very keenly aware of it since your hydra made that comment

[petapan]

and with regard to the groups being split up:

there is no guarantee that there has to be one scum in a group but i think particularly in large games there's always one scum that busses on an early scum wagon

this is somewhat shakier because dunn was majority'd but i do believe there is probably a red team member to be found in that other group

[Gypyx]

oh, i should add, because this is important:

I asked Tweet when scum chose when the bullet would be loaded in the gun, and the only answer she gave was that it was before she made the announcement

this is worth considering with regard to stuff from that phase because i think it's likely, but not certain they had to do so before the hammer

i mean...

it's not like toog hammered / dunn runner up is something that came completely out of the blue right?

and even then, we litterally don't know where scum put the bullet, so it's not like there's anything possible to take away from that fact

[petapan]

I feel like another thing about Infinity is that she's so willing to be convinced

I remember we got into a squabble and she went 'uh yeah I guess that's true' basically. Just very much a people pleaser but I don't know if I fully trust my read

Would like feedback

pretty sure that's just how she is

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13031324

i hate this from infinity lol

why?

something of the feel of early game distancing

like this was the dunn vote in question: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13031266

and she says that's suspect? it's such a weird thing

eh it was still technically RVS I think?

it was a serious vote

and i think the cliche scumtell of RVS distancing is actually somewhat of a thing in the sense that scum are likely to be overly conscious of their teammates' posting early on

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

"Fateful Duel"

Event Rules

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Decision 3.0.FINAL

Toogeloo [8!]:

Gypyx, Ydrasse, unwnd, SirCakez, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, petapan, Saber

Dunnstral [3!]:

Taly, Dwlee99, Infinity 324

unwnd [1]:

skitter30

Not Voting [2]:

ulyana, Toogeloo

With 14 contestants remaining, it took 8 votes to nominate the first duelist. A second duelist has also been nominated.

[/mech]

Now playing..

♫

Tia - Deal with the devil

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▶ ❚❚ ───────────────●───────────────  2:22 / 4:44

                      

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Event #4

"SPLIT JUDGEMENT"

Starring..

petapan

,

Team Blue

Ydrasse

,

Team Blue

Saber

,

Team Blue

SirCakez

,

Team Blue

Gypyx

,

Team Blue

unwnd

,

Team Blue

and

Gamma Emerald

,

Team Blue

ulyana

,

Team Pink

skitter30

,

Team Pink

Infinity 324

,

Team Pink

Toogeloo

,

Team Pink

Dwlee99

,

Team Pink

and

Taly

,

Team Pink

y'all, idg why we're trying to guess at alignment distributions when there's a clear connection here I'm pretty sure

[unwnd]

gypyx I've never seen you effort this much as either alignment what's up

This post bothers me

Peta how are you quoting shit when the thread is locked

Computer illiterate over here

[Gypyx]

gypyx I've never seen you effort this much as either alignment what's up

This post bothers me

Peta how are you quoting shit when the thread is locked

Computer illiterate over here

i personally click the PM button, it works even with locked thread

[unwnd]

Gypyx your vote just happened to be on Toog but now your posts here read like you don't think it was necessarily theater so

What gives

[Gypyx]

well, i don't think it was necessarily theater, simple as that

my read on toog is a mess in whole honesty

[petapan]

oh, i should add, because this is important:

I asked Tweet when scum chose when the bullet would be loaded in the gun, and the only answer she gave was that it was before she made the announcement

this is worth considering with regard to stuff from that phase because i think it's likely, but not certain they had to do so before the hammer

i mean...

it's not like toog hammered / dunn runner up is something that came completely out of the blue right?

and even then, we litterally don't know where scum put the bullet, so it's not like there's anything possible to take away from that fact

eh i tihnk it being quickhammered is at least kind of relevant in combination with the dunn theatrics

maybe i'm just spouting off nonsense because it's 3 AM yet it feels somehow relevant, like i feel like if they had known about it maybe they set it up to be more favorable

hypothetically if it's town/scum, even if dunn just shoots toog in the face and it's obvious TMI they still get rid of town and we have to waste another phase on getting rid of dunn

[Gamma Emerald]

gypyx I've never seen you effort this much as either alignment what's up

This post bothers me

Peta how are you quoting shit when the thread is locked

Computer illiterate over here

i personally click the PM button, it works even with locked thread

yeah this
that's how you get the quotes without post numbers (or by quoting from the preview window as well I think)

[unwnd]

Spill it?

I know you got prodded twice but I'm wondering where you're at

[petapan]

god seeing skitter on unwnd in that votecount is just

ugh

[petapan]

y'all, idg why we're trying to guess at alignment distributions when there's a clear connection here I'm pretty sure

i'm not trying to guess i'm saying there's likely to be scum in the other group you just have to suss it out

[Gypyx]

Spill it?

I know you got prodded twice but I'm wondering where you're at

umm, is that directed at me?

if so idk what you're asking of me there

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless all the scum piled on Toog, that seems obvious?
Maybe I'm mistaking correlation for causation but it seems plain to me.

[petapan]

dwlee
toog


taly
skitter


ulyana/infinity


i think i've soured on ulyana considerably

[Gypyx]

eh i tihnk it being quickhammered is at least kind of relevant in combination with the dunn theatrics

maybe i'm just spouting off nonsense because it's 3 AM yet it feels somehow relevant, like i feel like if they had known about it maybe they set it up to be more favorable

hypothetically if it's town/scum, even if dunn just shoots toog in the face and it's obvious TMI they still get rid of town and we have to waste another phase on getting rid of dunn

you're kinda spouting nonsense in my eyes yeah, sorry about that

pedit : why the ulnaya read?

[unwnd]

Spill it?

I know you got prodded twice but I'm wondering where you're at

umm, is that directed at me?

if so idk what you're asking of me there

Just your reads or like what you think of Toog now

Yknow, given you voted them and all.

[petapan]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Does someone have a meta-take?

dunnstral has felt more or less like this to me as both alignments

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

I think it will be more clear whether we've received a benefit when we know more about the event.

so you'd default to gamma being exempt from duel to determine after if we've received benefit?

hm, i think this makes some sense, though if gamma is a scums that leaves only 3 for us to hit 2 within with other choices

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

I think Ydrasse as mafia will start the game off strong but over time lose drive, and then you realize their posting is just fluffy but not filled with very hard analysis

do you think this description of your expectation of scum!ydrasse lines up with taly’s play this game? and would you have a similar expectation of scum!taly?

she gives almost no consideration of dunn at all and the questions are soft


but also looking at the iso again i fel like she's just not going anywhere with the stuff she's asking and there's not much that's clearing relative to other people

[Gypyx]

Just your reads or like what you think of Toog now

Yknow, given you voted them and all.

oh right

well, i think they're acting really scummy but sometimes i think it's the "bad town" scummy and sometimes look like it's the scummy scummy

so can't really tell

[petapan]

i feel like i need to do homework on shiki with regard to interaction patterns but might want to go there


it's late though i desperately need to force myself to sleep

[unwnd]

OK

I'm seeing where Peta sees Taly's inconsistencies wrt Dunn read