AI UPCIK PART II | Compromised

[Almost50]

Is anyone wondering why kop died

I could have, if I remembered SHIT! Like, I am getting vague images of what could have been, but I'm never sure it's in THIS game.

[Almost50]

imagine doing nka on d2

A lot of deeds can be done on day two. You do agree, don't you?

[Radical Rat]

What's special about D2 that prevents NKA? Nightkills happened, presumably for a reason, that's definitely worth thinking/talking about

[Skybird]

I'm not sure why kop was killed. Nothing jumped out at me in his isolated, but I haven't looked at his interactions yet.

Hi Pooky and Morning Tweet

[Skybird]

Darn auto correct.

[Skybird]

Is anyone wondering why kop died

I could have, if I remembered SHIT! Like, I am getting vague images of what could have been, but I'm never sure it's in THIS game.

Dude, remember I'm older than you. start re-reading

[Titus]

Spoiler: mollie's doubt on Dwlee

this really bugs me from Dwelee:

Also I am a universal Miller so I have no idea what will show up to role cops

Obvsly [their] role would show up as universal miller, but here [they] are concerned that it might show up as something else. I am renewing my suspicion of Radrat/Dwelee connection.

And while I neither agree nor disagree with mollie on this point (Dwlee's fallen off in read strength to me), it is definitely worth investigating further.

Also just now remembering this as part of the big wall post I only read for my name: this is like really silly. Role cops normally see a role name, and mine obviously isn't "Universal miller" if you look at the flips so far. All I know is that if people investigate me I appear guilty. What is a guilty result to a role cop? No idea, so maybe it'd actually return a description of my role, maybe it would give something that looked evil, how am I supposed to know what will show up?

PM the mod.

[Titus]

What's special about D2 that prevents NKA? Nightkills happened, presumably for a reason, that's definitely worth thinking/talking about

How about we don't know vig (if any) from SK (if any) from scum?

[Skybird]

A50, you voted kop at one point but you never interacted with him. Why?

[Aristophanes]

Glad to see this up and running again!

I'll check it after work.

Gotta say, Molla/mastina made.one helluva good.post.

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: mollie's doubt on Dwlee

this really bugs me from Dwelee:

Also I am a universal Miller so I have no idea what will show up to role cops

Obvsly [their] role would show up as universal miller, but here [they] are concerned that it might show up as something else. I am renewing my suspicion of Radrat/Dwelee connection.

And while I neither agree nor disagree with mollie on this point (Dwlee's fallen off in read strength to me), it is definitely worth investigating further.

Also just now remembering this as part of the big wall post I only read for my name: this is like really silly. Role cops normally see a role name, and mine obviously isn't "Universal miller" if you look at the flips so far. All I know is that if people investigate me I appear guilty. What is a guilty result to a role cop? No idea, so maybe it'd actually return a description of my role, maybe it would give something that looked evil, how am I supposed to know what will show up?

PM the mod.

I still don't know how it would appear

[Radical Rat]

What's special about D2 that prevents NKA? Nightkills happened, presumably for a reason, that's definitely worth thinking/talking about

How about we don't know vig (if any) from SK (if any) from scum?

Is that not something NKA is useful for figuring out?

[Titus]

What's special about D2 that prevents NKA? Nightkills happened, presumably for a reason, that's definitely worth thinking/talking about

How about we don't know vig (if any) from SK (if any) from scum?

Is that not something NKA is useful for figuring out?

Not without more flips. Doing NKA just tips our hands as to who PRs are most likely. It's a tool, but we don't have the data. This is much like VCA.

[Aristophanes]

What's special about D2 that prevents NKA? Nightkills happened, presumably for a reason, that's definitely worth thinking/talking about

How about we don't know vig (if any) from SK (if any) from scum?

Is that not something NKA is useful for figuring out?

Not without more flips. Doing NKA just tips our hands as to who PRs are most likely. It's a tool, but we don't have the data. This is much like VCA.

^^^

Thank you for saying what I was thinking!

[Almost50]

A50, you voted kop at one point but you never interacted with him. Why?

I thought you said you did some rereading!

It was an activity-based vote iirc.

[Almost50]

I still don't know how it would appear

Rolecop gets your ROLE. They're not affected by the Miller part. HOWEVER, it's up to the Mod to choose if they get the "name of the role" (which makes them a "flavour Cop" instead), or the whole Role PM (minus the alignment indicative stuff). USUALLY it's the latter (i.e. They get the description of your Role as you received it in your PM). This -of course- can be replaced by a simple Role name in NORMAL GAMES because a Jailekeeper/Roleblocker/2-shot Vig/Vanilla/MILLER is called just that.

If it was up to me I'd give them the DESCRIPTION so they know how the Role works. Otherwise -as I mentioned earlier) they'd be just a FLAVOUR Cop, and couldn't tell what the name means.

[Almost50]

Thank you for saying what I was thinking!

OR...

Titus:

"Thank you for thinking what I was saying!"

[Dwlee99]

I still don't know how it would appear

Rolecop gets your ROLE. They're not affected by the Miller part. HOWEVER, it's up to the Mod to choose if they get the "name of the role" (which makes them a "flavour Cop" instead), or the whole Role PM (minus the alignment indicative stuff). USUALLY it's the latter (i.e. They get the description of your Role as you received it in your PM). This -of course- can be replaced by a simple Role name in NORMAL GAMES because a Jailekeeper/Roleblocker/2-shot Vig/Vanilla/MILLER is called just that.

If it was up to me I'd give them the DESCRIPTION so they know how the Role works. Otherwise -as I mentioned earlier) they'd be just a FLAVOUR Cop, and couldn't tell what the name means.

Yea but I don't know which the mod chose lol

[Morning Tweet]

open question:

should i review D1 (like is it content rich or particularly helpful) or should i go wild and off-the-cuff for this game

[Dwlee99]

Well I'm not rereading D1 so maybe it'd be helpful if someone did

[Morning Tweet]

I'm more of the school of thought that the *conclusions* from NKA is just as likely to be neutral or harmful when we don't even know SK/Vig/Groupscum kills definitively and it's also D2

However I do think that you can read players based off of their analysis and that in of itself could make it worthwhile.

So i guess i think either approach is fine in a way. Well I don't think you should let your play be guided by the *conclusions* though.

Hi Pooky and Morning Tweet

heya!!

pedit: i find large themes to be really taxing especially if it's mechanics heavy so i want to be sure it's worth the ffort

[Morning Tweet]

i find Radical Rat towny -- good take or bad take

I'm getting the vibe that there's some mechanical nonsense for A50 being town or at least hard townread by the mastinamollie

If mastinamollie are going to be correct about any scumread it has to be Pooky. Don't really know how reliable that is though

[Morning Tweet]

i do find it sort of amusing that mollie has roughly 8/16 players as scummy

I just think you're scum here

Repeating that again and again won't make it true, my friend. I dunno if the dead thread is spoilered or not, but if it is then you can both know my alignment and judge my reads. Sorry if I didn't get you right, but I think over all my reads coinciding with those of the mastinas and Titus is a good sign

Oh,and @Dwlee: DO you think mastina is playing it solo? Did you forget mollie's in that hydra too?

Idk Mollie's accuracy. I assume regardless of player the reads are less likely to be accurate because they don't have the benefit of interacting in thread like we do. My point is that anyone who decided to kill DotW cause of that reads list needs to be looked at

this could be an interesting talking point

perhaps scum abused the IC's scumreads as something to just sheep and use. I know that's not exactly groundbreaking reasoning but at least im getting somewhere

[Dwlee99]

Yes find who did that please

[Morning Tweet]

Oh A50 faked an inno lol

A50 hard claim if you actually have a clear or I'm vote parking you tomorrow

What do you think about A50 now?