Slaughter Hour: Grand Debut | Deliberation Room Blue

[SirCakez]

Gamma I think you're pocketed right now

[Gamma Emerald]

NEO drive booting...

[SirCakez]

this isn't even a true hammer anyways

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

{taly, gamma}
{ydrasse, ulyana}

{peta, skitt, cakez}
{toog, dunn}

{saber, gypyx, dwlee, unwnd}

based on how things went in the true love game I linked, I would not be surprised if all the scum were in the red names

[petapan]

just felt like a lazy vote rather than actually trying to look for connections off the flip

when it feels like you've managed to sus every other slot that isn't toog off of dunn interactions, I think this is a massive load of shit

gamma i ultimately concluded i did not want to vote those people


like honestly i feel like you are really not understanding what i have been trying to say at all



maybe that's on me for being imprecise with my wording because i've been posting more raw thoughts rather than editing them to be presentable, i don't know


but you're way off the mark with understanding what i am doing here

[petapan]

fuck it all my townreads in here think inf is scum and I agree with them and Gamma hasn't given me good enough reason to change my mind
the gypyx vote gives me a little pause but tbf this game is stale and I want to get everyone reunited

VOTE: infinity

do you townread saber

[petapan]

i mean like theoretically, saber and gypyx are the people i townread in here the least but i absolutely was not going to let them voting infinity scare me off because in total i do not townread her play

i also do feel like dwlee and skitter over in the other thread wanted her flipped and i think those two are likely town

[Gamma Emerald]

you fuckers make me sick

[SirCakez]

Bro chill out it's just a game

[SirCakez]

fuck it all my townreads in here think inf is scum and I agree with them and Gamma hasn't given me good enough reason to change my mind
the gypyx vote gives me a little pause but tbf this game is stale and I want to get everyone reunited

VOTE: infinity

do you townread saber

Yes I really like their solving it feels way more real than most of the game

[SirCakez]

I was referring to Saber, Ydra and Peta when I said my TRs

[petapan]

gamma sometimes you don't get what you want

if i'm dead wrong here i'll agree to shut up and follow your lead

[Gamma Emerald]

MY LEAD IS TO LEAVE INFINITY BE. IF YOU FUCKED THAT UP ONLY TO LISTEN TO ME AFTER BULLDOZING MY CONFIDENT TR, THERE WILL BE NO PEACE FOR YOU WHILE YOU STILL LIVE IN THIS GAME

[SirCakez]

okay

[petapan]

okay whatever i'm stepping away from this

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma sometimes you don't get what you want

if i'm dead wrong here i'll agree to shut up and follow your lead

my last post was at this specifically, because it comes off as such a slap to the face
like "yeah I'll only listen to you AFTER I go against your very clear wishes to not touch this one person you have a fuck-ton of experience with"

[Saber]

saber/cakez/peta should be enough for voting in ulyana
some of you "prefer" infinity but I think it'd be better to actually give her a chance to talk first. That's why Toog is my explicit preference, he's the only one in that group where I feel like prolonged questioning wouldn't be useful, he's clearly demonstrated a give-no-fucks attitude towards this game

I strongly prefer Infinity over ulyana. I'm going to need you to elaborate on why you're so confident on her being a contestant.

[Saber]

fuck it all my townreads in here think inf is scum and I agree with them and Gamma hasn't given me good enough reason to change my mind
the gypyx vote gives me a little pause but tbf this game is stale and I want to get everyone reunited

VOTE: infinity

Nice, I think this is right.

[Saber]

also, wrt Infinity, I'm kinda pulling the same card I used to pull when reading MariaR. That is, we are so familiar with each other that we can read each other based on how the other reads us, or at least I can read infinity based on how she reads me. Her progression on me makes perfect sense as town, and the best-fit agenda I can see for if she were scum is trying to pocket me, in which case her concern about TRing me for things scum!me can do feels out of place, and the Prism/Gypyx progression seems a bit wacky for that too. It took her quite some time after shifting back to TRing me to go after Gypyx. While I don't think the Gypyx push is entirely well-founded I think it's probably a towntell how she came to it. Town are generally more likely to have that sort of natural "I let this go and still think there's something here, I'm gonna pick it up again" attitude.

No offence, but I think you're selling Infinity way short if you don't think she's capable of reading you as a contestant as a stagehand.

You're going into this with a mindset of Infinity having two options as a stagehand:
-Taking advantage of how you're being read and also read you as a stagehand
-Read you as a contestant to pocket you

When in reality, stagehands are just faking reads because they have to most of the time, and most reads don't have specific motivations behind them.

[Gamma Emerald]

her part about thinking I was doing scum!me things that she initially thought were towny didn't *feel* fake, though

[Saber]

The reasoning here to call Dunn a contestant is just bad, in my opinion. Feels like an excuse to explain why Infinity isn't voting for her stagehand colleague.

Dunn is the first name listed in Infinity's solve here, but there's been absolutely no mention of him since the post where she called him a contestant for being wagoned.

No conclusion either way in this post.

Ydrasse already talked about this post for me.

nope sorry, i read infinity’s iso and wow that is bad.

she consistently had dunn just out of danger; in her poe but always a bit higher than the people that she voted and the only time she caved was when a wagon cropped up.

i’m on mobile so i can’t quote easily but she has an early game solve as like, me/dunn/galron/cephrir, and assuming gooey is townslot (i think so atm) thats... horribly wrong and i don’t think that infinity is usually that far off

the reasons that she townreads dunn enough are weak too, the fact he was an early wagon, accepting one reply from him as fair enough; her scumread extends from pooky’s reasoning and not her own. also means she rated toog + dunn the same on play as scumleans which, uh, hm

And the probably the best thing pointing to Infinity-stagehand; after all that umming and ahhing, all it takes for Infinity to vote Dunn is this:
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

i did homework and reread and now think there's a decent chance dunn is scum


(yes like i did with cakez only to change my mind a day later, i don't care, shut up)

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

VOTE: Dunn baa

She's got away with not voting Dunn for as long as possible, but as soon as she feels he's actually gonna be the vote, she finally votes him. Peta posting that without giving any reasons for why Dunn is a stagehand should not be enough for her to finally vote him.

Just feels like a clear cut example of how a stagehand treats a stagehand on stage.

[Morning Tweet]

"Split Judgement - Team Blue"

Event Rules

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DECISION 4.FINAL

Team Pink Members:

ulyana, skitter30, Infinity 324, Toogeloo, Dwlee99, Taly

Infinity 324 [4!]:

Saber, petapan, Gypyx, SirCakez

skitter30 [1]:

Gammagooey

Toogeloo [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Not Voting [1]:

Ydrasse

With 7 players on the team, it takes 4 votes to decide. If deadline is reached, plurality is in effect.

Link to deadline timer. If the other team makes a decision, the timer is set to 48 hours.

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[Gammagooey]

man the paranoia from skitter and Taly with Galron self-voting for the duel makes me want to groan

when the event start says 'Nom 2 people with votes at least one will die' worrying about literally anything except "maybe it's secretly better for my scumread to be 2nd instead of 1st" seems like such a waste of time and effort

and is amazingly completely solved if you organize people to do fake-votes to decide who the 2nd-most vote-getter should be to try and get two scum dueling each other (and fine mayyybe you can argue that the last scum sabotage could possibly get them out of it but getting both sabotages out of the way by the 2nd event seems like it's p. good for town anyway). though I'm not actually at the duel yet so maybe one of ya'll suggests that later who knows

[Gamma Emerald]

no one suggested pseudo-voting
I was gonna go radio silent but I might as well gab with gooey since he's one of the folks I don't feel pissy with rn