Open 834: Trust Fall - Game Over

[Enchant]

oh snap. hope it's not too bad & passes swiftly.

I am not about IRL Storm.

[the worst]

is that by exclusion? (or in other words: do you have many townreads?)
what are your thoughts on prism? & do you think it's likely pooky spends the entire game hitting on his scumbuddy?

[the worst]

uh, if he's doing that. obviously i wouldn't know.

can we get a prod on pooky or something?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think it's likely pooky spends the entire game hitting on his scumbuddy?

Don't you remember me hitting on Hectic for like most of the first Trust Fall game we played together?

[the worst]

20/10/2021, 16:24 ACDT
dear diary,

today, i posted #451 directed at enchant. i was hoping to use pooky's play so far as a metric to sort enchant by, even if i think i could answer the questions i posted for myself.

so far, nobody has called me out on asking a question i should know the answer to. i sure hope nobody does!

anyway... thanks for listening. i'll be back with more spicy gossip later.

- the worst

[Enchant]

is that by exclusion? (or in other words: do you have many townreads?)
what are your thoughts on prism? & do you think it's likely pooky spends the entire game hitting on his scumbuddy?

No, i just don't think Prism acts as special ego "i am not trustfalling because no". While i know some want to play this game longer, but it still hinders your chances (unless you think other players are idiots and need your GUIDING HAND for whole game, but then it's lost already, believe me) so i see it's fake.

About wind, actually it's because i readed his post with explaination "why would Wisdom believe Enchant on word" and somehow remembered it as "Why would the worst believe Enchant on word" which i found horrible reasoning. I found i was wrong after reading ISO two minutes ago.
Yeah, attention 00000000, so i just use universal excuse "Pooky sus" to not look idiot.

[the worst]

very nice.
that kinda tracks.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Klick]

i agree i'm pumping up the probability, but in lieu of better reads? i think it's really goofy that you two aren't

okay ducky we get it you're town!

[Klick]

I lean towards Tammy's argument against Wisdom-town being scum-motivated
And I didn't love the contrast between her answering my self-meta question with 'idunno', followed shortly by talking about how she'd already be proud if she were scum here

[Enchant]

Refusing Trust =/= Town.

Scum have benefit to refuse trust from townie (because will be treated as town, and thus will trustfall anyway, maybe even with someone else. After that, good luck explaining why mafia refused your trust.

Free doubt while costing nothing, give me some!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I lean towards Tammy's argument against Wisdom-town being scum-motivated
And I didn't love the contrast between her answering my self-meta question with 'idunno', followed shortly by talking about how she'd already be proud if she were scum here

what's her scum motivation?

[Klick]

you guys are definitely being too hard on wisdom here
an 'easy pass'? cmon

*shrug*

Now do I think Wisdom, who I think could figure out how to get town reads without voting or death tunneling, would come out with something hokey like "how do I get town reads without voting?" as scum. Maybe not, even joking. But I don't trust that interpretation of mine either.

See, I read this and struggle to see how the Wisdom paranoia outweighs what looks like a fairly solid argument?

PEdit: Wisdom being town and being soft-confirmed would be bad for scum!Tammy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PEdit: Wisdom being town and being soft-confirmed would be bad for scum!Tammy

because?

[Klick]

tammy's thought line of "i wouldn't be good here if scum" and "i'd already be impressed with myself if scum here" seems genuine so she's lean town i think

i don't think scum!tammy would think she did anything good yet

How do you match that with her answer to my question about what she'd be doing differently here if she were scum?

PEdit: the same reason any town being confirmed would be bad for any scum

[the worst]

is that more likely than tammy just being town and disliking people throwing around a softclear like it was gospel?

[Wisdom]

i'd be lowkey disappointed if the scum team was just infinity+klick

thats who I am also leaning towards as of this post

Though cookie is a contender too

[Klick]

On average, yeah? I think she's more likely to dislike the softclear as scum. Especially since she laid out the strongest argument for the softclear being accurate IMO.

Part of this could definitely be a playstyle clash between how I view the game and how she does. But I think she's more likely scum than average out of it.

[Klick]

Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.

imo you're being too paranoid. just because you've falsely cleared people for similar reasons in the past doesn't make them invalid.

Basically this?
Liking Infinity atm

[Klick]

i don't have too many thoughts yet. prism feels somewhat towny, the early townread on pooky was kinda serious, mafman pings me a little but i don't have anything concrete.

Talk to me about Prism!town?

[Klick]

The difference between this game and every other one you have played with me is vast, Infinity. Does this sound no alarm bells?

it doesn't seem that different to me tbh? it looks like you're trying to sort tammy, and not trying to take control of the gamestate, which is pretty towny

Lol never mind

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PEdit: the same reason any town being confirmed would be bad for any scum

I'm unsure if you're making shit up or if you just don't understand how scum usually win this type of game lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

expending political capital to shade someone who's town is not exactly a winning strategy for a scumside player.

your goal is to get someone to trust you

not make sure nobody can trust anyone (cuz that's like literally impossible)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

unless like your target happens to be LHF and you want to designate a town to be left behind but even then that's not something you do without taking target considerations into account and wisdom is probly not the easier person to target lol

[the worst]

I think the only real reason I'd expect scum to do that is if they just straight up think it's too absurd to land them a scumread

aorn I do think it's a pretty 2 dimensional thing to go after but I guess I'm also not really convinced to reevaluate my wisdom read and left kinda nullish about Tammy

I think Klick is less convincing in general though