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[Wisdom]

this game i'm also pr (as i assume everyone is) but my role isn't as interesting

Didnt you say that we shouldn't lim you for your role?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Valkyrie Dimension

Very good vote btw.

SleepyKrew was a slot that already was pretty damn sketchy, and the replacement has only continued to do increasingly scum-indicative things imo.

So like.

VOTE: Valkyrie Dimension

Actually probably best vote now.

I can assure you that I am not scum. And I don't think I have said anything that indicates I'm trying to hide that I am.

Nothing you have posted indicates you're town and your predessor was scummy.

[imaginality]

I do think newbscum could be like that but it's hard for me to look past Skrew calling out Gypyx in twilight

On the one hand I think in this game with PRs aplenty, scum calling out scum in twilight seems unlikely.

On the other hand it's a good time to make a point which can easily be moved past the next day given the start of the next day is gonna be busy with night action discussion etc. And it maybe have seemed like a point someone else would likely make if Skrew didn't so why not be the one to do so.

So I think it's not as strong a town point for Valkyrie's slot as you think it is.

That said, I actually had a slight town read on Skrew yesterday. I think Valkyrie is perhaps too easy a target today. So the fact there doesn't seem to be all that much pressure from possible scum* on Valkyrie could indicate scum see it as a bad wagon to be on when Valkyrie flips town. And conversely I could see scum taking the chance to bus if Valkyrie were scum.

So I also lean town on Valkyrie but for different reasons to you.

*mastina I think is conf town, not so much because of mod error but because of Gypyx role similarity. Which means my read of her D1 was wrong.

[imaginality]

this game i'm also pr (as i assume everyone is) but my role isn't as interesting

Didnt you say that we shouldn't lim you for your role?

[the votes on T3 are] 100% warranted and i'd be a good poe lim if not for my role

[imaginality]

I'm interested in this progression:

Can you explain both your T3 and Imaginality reads? I think T3 seems really townie and how is Imaginality different here than in OMB? Wrt Cakez, he’s still totally up in the air for me.

~I

Slots I’m currently the most suss on (in no particular order) are T3, Valkrey, Dwelee, not crazy about imaginality but associatives look the best but he just seems lazy here compared with OMB where he was a total tryhard.

~I

Up to 1128 I'd made 10 posts. Between then and 2832 I made 16. And if anything I'd say the second batch were more useful than the first.

So, I'm a bit suspicious of this progression from 'same as OMB' to 'different to OMB'. Like the 'lazy' accusation coming out here rather than earlier seems like it could be deliberate rather than authentic. Why did your read of my play shift between these two posts?

(That said, as I mentioned earlier in the game, I'm posting differently here than OMB and the 'lazier' accusation isn't inaccurate in and of itself. It's not due to being scum (I think I'm more active as scum if anything), it's due to game pace plus a little less free time now than then, and the combined impact on my ability to dig into this game. I think if I'm still in this game as the number of remaining players reduces my playstyle and influence on the game will start to resemble OMB more. So right now, I'm fine with you saying I seem lazier than OMB. My question is with the timing of that remark.)

[May and Brendan]

@mod, where was Cakez last vote? I’m guessing Woolax but can’t be certain until you fix this. Thank you

He was voting Woolax. Fixed.

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I am an expert art critic and if some scumbag tried to do high level art I would spot it right away

*Van Gogh forgery is on its way and beng sent through regular post, so you should expect to receive it by 2030 tops*

~I

[Titus]

Quick announcement: we initially forgot to give one player a message they should have gotten at daystart. It has been corrected now, sorry for the confusion.
VC coming up soon.

Unless the mods failed to notify me (I did ask them about this to be sure), literally nobody targeted me?

I asked the mod about my lack of result, and the mod confirmed that there was a processing error; I do in fact have a move, a quite powerful one at that.

NGL I think that the mod announcing this error is actually itself a worse mod error than the initial fuckup because by announcing this, it basically conftowns me.

(I'll take the conftown status from it tho.)

Not finished reading up but I would like to confirm if Kitty got my fruit.

(ngl this kinda just looks like scum-Titus to me)

Mastina, that's odd because the mod forgot to send me a daystart message. Unless you're saying that the feedback is a separate error mentioned...

[Titus]

VOTE: Valkyrie Dimension

Very good vote btw.

SleepyKrew was a slot that already was pretty damn sketchy, and the replacement has only continued to do increasingly scum-indicative things imo.

So like.

VOTE: Valkyrie Dimension

Actually probably best vote now.

VOTE: VD

I can go with this because it's SleepyKrew.

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

also i successfully evolved and now im a rolestopper poggies

Huh that's fascinating considering that the role I received last night is in fact a rolestopper.

VOTE: Valkyrie Dimension
(saw the claimed inno on SirCakez from Firebringer, so onto this)

Really damn sad kyouko got killed because I wanted to genuinely work with her now that THAT ONE FUCKING GAME is over!

Also I should mention I've had the Gamma hydra as a secret yeet I'd support even though I never listed the slot in my yeetpool, so consider Gamma to be in for stuff like this.

My pool rn is (imaginality, KTT, Milobird, Goat-slot)

Mine is {imaginality, Goat-Slot, SleepyKrew-slot, T3, Gamma Emerald}, I think.

I do admit I'm being pretty lazy with this game tho. I'm not really efforting here yet.
Truth Innuendos Lies
Firebringer
SirCakez

Milobird
Thestatusquo/DKKoba
Wisdom

Kitty Trauma Team

WhemeStar
Dwlee99
Ralts

Save the Dragons
chowchow

imaginality
The Goat/Titus
T3
SleepyKrew/Valkyrie Dimension
Alexandrite/Gamma Emerald

Actually want to do this.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Bad Mastina, Gamma is so obviously town here. :/

He was the obvious cw to scum plus Gypyx was voting him.

~I

[Titus]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Also Titus obvtowned Goat slot, so she shouldn’t be anywhere near your PoE. Titus is obvtown not only because of her posting but the very clear townie mindset behind her VCAs.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

Idk it’s possible? I was hard tr her out of the gate in OMB. She definitely shouldn’t be voting Gamma or have you in her PoE. You are currently my strongest tr after Koba.

I hard veto Gamma lim, he’s town.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

Idk it’s possible? I was hard tr her out of the gate in OMB. She definitely shouldn’t be voting Gamma or have you in her PoE. You are currently my strongest tr after Koba.

I hard veto Gamma lim, he’s town.

~I

I’m leaning to her being just wrong town though. Her play sounds townie but her reads on you/Gamma are atrocious.

~I

[Wisdom]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

All three of those are town due to gypyx

[Wisdom]

Also Titus obvtowned Goat slot, so she shouldn’t be anywhere near your PoE. Titus is obvtown not only because of her posting but the very clear townie mindset behind her VCAs.

~I

Completely disagree
I was just considering voting Titus actually

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

I would probably substitute T3 and Dweelee because despite Koba thinking they CC’d them, which is definitely possible, their posting in general gives me King’s Robes vibes. But I’m going to trust Koba on that for now, despite Dwelee’s ISO not remotely impressing me.

There are associatives with Imaginality and Valykrie though but scum sometimes distances and hardbusses. That’s what happened in MU game where I was the game-losing miselim. Scum hardbussed their entire team in that and the townie who miselimed me at Elo didn’t even wait for me to make a single post.

Why I’m voting T3 is because he has yet to even address the wagon on him and that’s usually not a great sign, that and possible associative tells with Gypyx?

~I

[Titus]

T3 or Dwelee is probably fair due to the VCA too.

I feel Wisdom is town due to a difference from Astral roles. His pushes aren't telegraphed.

[Titus]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

All three of those are town due to gypyx

I don't see how but I'll look through the ISO. Distancing while your team is going up in flames is a thing.

[May and Brendan]

VC 2.04

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to eliminate someone

Dwlee99 (4):

Wisdom, Firebringer, PookyTheMagicalBear, WhemeStar

Valkyrie Dimension (3):

DkKoba, mastina, Titus

Wisdom (2):

Milobird, Gamma Emerald

T3 (2):

SirCakez, Truth Innuendos Lies

Kitty Trauma Team (2):

Dwlee99, Kitty Trauma Team

PookyTheMagicalBear (2):

T3, Save The Dragons

Titus (1):

imaginality

Not Voting:

chowchow, Valkyrie Dimension

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-10-28 23:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Also Titus obvtowned Goat slot, so she shouldn’t be anywhere near your PoE. Titus is obvtown not only because of her posting but the very clear townie mindset behind her VCAs.

~I

Completely disagree
I was just considering voting Titus actually

In Death Curse, Titus also made a VC but the difference there is she contradicted herself. In DC, she said scum was on the front of a wagon but then she called a buddy - who was at the tail end of that scumwagon, “lockscum”. Contradictions are reliable Titus scumtells and I don’t see any of that so far. She is also not trying to control the game - towntell, plus her posts wrt KTT don’t make sense if she’s actually scum here. Also, Fire said he had oog reasons for tr Goat and since our reads on that slot are now mindmelding and he’s one of my strongest trs, I feel pretty confident on that.

When I this confidently (especially tr) read someone, I’m rarely wrong.

I will also hard veto Titus lim. Pooky is probably also town, another read we’re not seeing eye to eye on. Chowchow as well.


~I

[Titus]

thinking about it, mastina, maybe you should put a reduction to the number of peeps who should visit you? Like, restrict it to half the PL or something, cuz i doubt we'd gain much worth from 4-5 of our powerful PRs taking a shot on you on the long term

also VOTE: alexandrite less talk more scrap

Ok this is plus town points for mastina. Not sure what her claim is but I don't see this as S v S.

[Titus]

also imaginality if you could tell the difference between sharing reads and being a devilish scum drawing attention to town's scummy posts

Flagging to go back to this point in the thread to determine the exact VC (this occured between the VC where Gypyx was not a wagon) and imaginality's response

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Kuribo sorry for your situation. If you need a shoulder, you can pm me.

Can you confirm I splashed you so we can wagon someone else?

VC1.06

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate someone

Gypyx (4):

Alexandrite, Milobird, Ralts, WhemeStar

Woolax (4):

Truth Innuendos Lies, Save The Dragons, ssbm_kyouko, Wisdom

ssbm_kyouko (3):

Gypyx, T3, Firebringer

Milobird (1):

Kitty Trauma Team

Alexandrite (1):

SirCakez

Firebringer (1):

Thestatusquo

SirCakez (1):

mastina

mastina (1:)

imaginality

Save The Dragons (1):

Woolax

Not Voting:

The Goat, chowchow, Dwlee99, SleepyKrew

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-10-13 21:30:00)

Mod Notes: I have choir in 6 hours
Also did this VC on mobile

SvS wagons here is interesting - sleepykrew unvoted too at this point when STD wagon lost all steam

Given what I have heard about Woolax missing the back half of his wagon and dueling S v S wagons, I expect the back part of Woolax wagon to be scum.

Regardless of Kuribo’s alignment, that’s a real thing that’s happening. He’s not saying because he has RL to deal with he’s not scum, rather that it makes him not scummy via the logic of inactivity.

I’m really torn because mod told me all NAs have been processed and it sounds like Titus’ role is some kind of loyal. Tonally, they sound a bit off but irrespective of alignment, their emotion at being activity read is genuine.

~I

My role is not loyal. Otherwise, I would be voting KTT rather than jumping to the conclusion that a roleblocker/rolestopper must exist or KTT is ascetic.

Cakez is inno by FB anyway iirc

Wait, what?

This is nothing like DC!Titus here.

~I

[Titus]

Looking through imaginality in response to Gypyx asking him to clarify his pushes on Dwlee Ralts and himself, imaginality doesn't. He pokes around elsewhere a bit and then votes mastina.

This is definitely not clearing.