Mini 2241: The Neighborhood -- ENDGAME

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well we need a mafia roleblocker to exist

[MegAzumarill]

Alright but I'm not mafia

[Dwlee99]

Why you be assuming I'm mafia

What if I'm just an sk

Your win con would be same as mafia once mcat is limmed

[MegAzumarill]

That said eliminating the roleblocker could lead to a town win VOTE: unvote

Pooky+ Dwlee make your cases

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok i swear i will flip a coin between dwlee and meg when we get to 3p

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what no we need the roleblocker alive to block the cult leader

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we elim the ascetic

roleblocker blocks the cult leader

roleblocker DOESNT kill

we then yeet cult leader,
roleblocker kills ythan cuz ythan conftown

then 3 p elo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is the only solution set where scum and town have equal chances of winning

[Dwlee99]

Mafia immediately loses if we lim town or the roleblocker to cult

Town immediately loses if we lim house or a townie. Soooo we lim mcat. House needs to be roleblocked so that mafia doesn't lose. Then we enter 3p

[MegAzumarill]

What about roleblocker kills?

[Dwlee99]

Roleblocker shouldn't kill unless it's a multitasked roleblock and kill against house. If the game reaches 1 - 1 - 2 (roleblocker, cult, town) then town is forced to cult side.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if the roleblocker blocks the cult leader and kills

we end up at 4p 1 cult leader 1 roleblocker

at this point elimming the cult leader leads to mafia win, so town will cult side and try to elim roleblocker in hopes of being recruited

[MegAzumarill]

Considering there was a mafia kill last night and the cult kill was blocked

Its multitasking

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so the ONLY way roleblocker can get rid of house is to block house AND no kill

that leads to 5p endgame where town would elim cult leader and get to 3p elo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes it is multitasking

however it is also gamethrowing for the roleblocker to kill and block because that means the cult leader CANT be eliminated

[MegAzumarill]

Why would roleblocker need to get rid of house

This is the problem

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if the cult leader doesnt die the cult necesarily wins

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there is no way for mafia to kill the cult leader because cult leader is bulletproof

[MegAzumarill]

Still dont like to do a situation where scum can force a draw/joint win

[MegAzumarill]

Town loss moves outside of town hands at that point

[Dwlee99]

Just vote Mcat and roleblocker block house

[Dwlee99]

Town and mafia's win comes down to 3p picking correctly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what is your suggested plan instead then?

[MegAzumarill]

We lim between us three today.
If we hit roleblocker we enter kingmaker where town can win, maybe even force a win if a TPR exists.
If we not we have the same odds as in Elo and would've lost anyway

[Dwlee99]

If roleblocker is limmed we can't win...