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[Datisi]

re 648:

"weak" - ok cool, you still haven't offered actual explanation on why i'm scum doing things other than saying that i'd be the level zero thinking scum blatantly defending my partners from any miniscule pressure.

584 was talking about salsa protecting me.

and what is supposedly scummy about asking someone else for their read on a person they have experience with?

[Andresvmb]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12952165

Here is the previous description of meta I have offered on geraintm. They got progressively more aggressive as the game went on.

And DW was in that game too. I would also ask there.

[Andresvmb]

Anyway, I gotta get back to work. Carry on haha

[Datisi]

I feel like punishing myself from time to time and logging in.

god, this is a mood.

Because many players can believe that if you never rolled scum before, you would have more chances to get it at last every new time. Just statistics.

the fuck.

Chances are still 50-50.

chances for rolling scum are not 50-50... the fuck, part two.

[Datisi]

so, liking sel and gera a bit more, salsa and three a bit less. wiki is still annoying the heck out of me but i don't think he's scum for it.

alright, bed time for me. i'm probably gonna be around for the next ~30 minutes if anyone needs some datisi in their life. if not, see y'all tomorrow.

[Wiki]

I will say the reasons why you are a scum later, I dont need to hurry. Some arguments are good, but I need other mafia scums to do the same mistakes you did. If I tell everything now, the others from your team will avoid some mines, you've already stepped on.
There is a chance that i'm mistaking and it can be hard to elim you on day one, so all of these reasons tell me not to hurry with you right now.

However you are a nice target for some night abilities, arent you?

[Wiki]

Good night.

[geraintm]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12952165

Here is the previous description of meta I have offered on geraintm. They got progressively more aggressive as the game went on.

And DW was in that game too. I would also ask there.

yep, seems a fair read on me

[geraintm]

daycop isn't a normal role, pretty sure someone has said that already
VOTE: geraintm

Oops!

UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: Wiki

odd how no one jumped on you for the same vote as me....

could it be because salsa's vote was a random vote with no reasoning while your vote was framed in a way that would very much allow you to keep pushing people for very lhf reasons? odd indeed.

Sup babes!
I can do

Dwlee

for no reason (don't catch up yet).

VOTE: Dwlee

I am a day cop, Dwlee is a checked mafia goon.

Hard claim

Hard claim 2

I am already VOTE: dwlee

if wiki retracts this claim at all, will vote for them untill they are gone from the game

Oh,

Dwlee

already have guilty on their back, lovely

sorry if i misread their posts here, but it didnt feel random to me with their back to back posts

[geraintm]

579 is vaguely kind of townie for geraintm? maybe? should i be townleaning a player for giving thoughts on day 1 after repeatedly saying they hate day 1? andres help pls

my post 579 is no different to other games ive played where i've kept a track of bad posts on day 1. i think in the past ive used it to try and give me pointers on where to look day 2.
though i have almost always been wrong, so maybe i should be using them to look elsehwere?

[geraintm]

The answer on geraintm is that they can and they have. I could try and find specific examples but yeah they’re not totally devoid of content D1. They just don’t lean heavily any which way. But they also know this is what people know of them so it would be absolutely out of character for them to come out aggressive against someone D1 as either alignment.

i'd have to be some kind of day 1 day cop and get a guilty on someone and then hard claim (twice) for me to be aggresive on day 1

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, are you one person on this acc? If no, does it mean you can switch during the game?

Maybe I shouldnt ask this, you can ignore.

It’s complicated. But all-in-all it’s one person posting from this account.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t really get the nature of the question but I feel kinda touched you’re asking regardless

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma has definitely played with geraintm before. I’m sure they have something to add to this.

I have a few games with him but I think I’ve always been scum in them LUL

[Three]

I don't think I'm looking too deep into it, I barely understand the point of what she's saying there and I'm kind of confused by your own interpretation of it.

i don't know how to more simply explain that saying "if one of dwlee/wiki flips scum, the other one is town"

doesn't also mean

"there is one scum in dwlee/wiki".

why would she back down? like, her argument makes perfect sense (even if it is clunkily worded) and you're the one misunderstanding the logic there.

Huh? That's not what you implied earlier.

also now that i'm caught up, i wanna point out that i hate pretty much everything that selynee has posted so far and would probably have been voting her, had wiki not been as scummy as he's being

meh, sure
VOTE: selynee

i do think sel/wiki are unlikely to be s/s (or at least, something pinged me that way back when i was reading, i forgot what by now)

What changed that made you decide her earlier logic was more sound than you originally thought?

Well, if you feel like I'm scum claiming, show with the class and put your effort into elim me today.

Umm...because there is only one reason my reads would be fake versus wrong? Cuz I'm mafia pushing on you? So, obviously you should want me out.

Why not? I mean, feel free to share.

I… just don’t have any more thoughts. The part where you talk about Andrea seemed designed to make it seem like you’re making discussion while pocketing Andres.

Why? All I asked at that point was his read on Dwelee. Given that he said mine was wishy washy.

But I like you think I could pocket an experienced player.

This is what I mean when I ask why you're scum claiming. You're saying that you're mafia and that you think you could pocket somebody. Why are you doing this?

that is very clearly not what she's saying

back to VOTE: three

@three

, do you have reads other than selynee?

bottom of pg 22, be back at some point.

What do you think she's saying?

I do have other reads, yes.

Can you explain the thought process behind your vote here?

[Dorsey]

I don't want to vote the monkey. There's no evidence to suggest he's evil, and his personality is preferable.

Reminder for self: Finish reading posts of below players
Andres, Datisi, Gamma, Iconeum, T3, and Wiki

[Three]

Thread activity dying out of nowhere.

@A50:

Can you explain why you voted yourself and then dipped out of the thread?

[Dwlee99]

Not dealing with jail

Wiki

Dwlee99
Iconeum
Datisi
Andresvmb

T3
Selynee (preflips)
Three

Gamma Emerald
Almost50
Dorsey

Salsabil Faria
geraintm

Pedit: there's 4 scum, 6 is a fine pool to be looking in, here's where I'm at though

[Salsabil Faria]

584 did make me wonder if i'm getting white-knighted. thonk.

Heard the term before but didn’t understand then, can you explain please?

I scumread you because of your day cop claim (because normal games don't have day cop)

which I asked you later if the claim was serious but you ignored it. And after reading up to page 10, there was nothing to change my vote on you.

why is the bolded scummy?

daycop isn't a normal role, pretty sure someone has said that already
VOTE: geraintm

Oops!

UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: Wiki

Though I don’t understand (don't fully catch up yet) why you vote

gera

instead of

Wiki

who fake claimed for tunnelling

Dwlee

to death.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because Wiki is obvtown???

[Salsabil Faria]

I feel there’s a Scum in 4 names? Yeah, that’s actually what I would be saying as Scum to avoid any accountability and seem like I’m contributing.

Why can't town!me give names if I think there is a 1/2 scum(s) there? And I'm not avoiding anything, those 4's scumread on me is biased af, so it’s not out of the context to state that if any of them is scum, they're using this to miseliminate me.

[Salsabil Faria]

Because Wiki is obvtown???

How?

[Gamma Emerald]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

[Salsabil Faria]

daycop isn't a normal role, pretty sure someone has said that already
VOTE: geraintm

Oops!

UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: Wiki

odd how no one jumped on you for the same vote as me....

could it be because salsa's vote was a random vote with no reasoning while your vote was framed in a way that would very much allow you to keep pushing people for very lhf reasons? odd indeed.

Sup babes!
I can do

Dwlee

for no reason (don't catch up yet).

VOTE: Dwlee

I am a day cop, Dwlee is a checked mafia goon.

Hard claim

Hard claim 2

I am already VOTE: dwlee

if wiki retracts this claim at all, will vote for them untill they are gone from the game

Oh,

Dwlee

already have guilty on their back, lovely

sorry if i misread their posts here, but it didnt feel random to me with their back to back posts

Actually it’s random at first, then I saw your post and it changed to serious.

[Salsabil Faria]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

I don't have any meta on them, so can't tell if they're new or not.
But what about traitor?