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RegRider (3): Dwlee99, ssbm_Kyouko, Mama Ru

Loftwing (2): Save the Dragons, Bingle
cyrus62 (1): Dragon of the West
Dragon of the West (2): StrangeMatter, cyrus62
Bingle (1): Quiet Owl

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to reach a decision.
(expired on 2021-10-25 13:44:49) remain.

[Quiet Owl]

My vote is not moving from west. At the start of every day in my 1st post I will vote west. Till I'm proven other wise or one of us is dead.

Why do you think West is scum? I had them marked as more likely to be town.

His super weak case. West should know better. My slips like last time come from me misreading my role pm. Last time I cunfused dbl parity cop for muti tasked . Saying I think it was better to hide. Is me not knowing from lack of exp as pr is just being honest. I wasn't going do my crumb thing this game.

Fair enough. Though it is still pretty early on in the game and pressuring people over minor things is pretty much the only way to get information right now.

[Quiet Owl]

More likely to be town:

Dragon of the West - Same as above.
cyrus62 - Not sure what I think of the alignment roll claim strategy but he's definitely trying.
Enchant - Feels town. If they're scum they've shot themselves in the foot at least twice by now.
StrangeMatter - Makes my chicken nugget brain hurt but at least they're poking people.
ssbm_Kyouko - Proactive, asking questions. However they claimed that RegRider townslipped and then immediately revoted him when questioned about this.

More likely to be scum:

Bingle - I am biased here and that is the only reason that I am not pushing this wagon. I still really don't like how they keep arguing to leave the cult alive. Why does it matter so much that the cult is left alive? Are you the cult? The cult endgames groupscum faster than groupscum can endgame cult, despite the cult having a conversion rate of 1 per night and we may very well end up with 5+ kills tonight?
Loftwing - Folded too fast on that gambit. Lots of jokes and mech speculation and doesn't go after players.

Too quiet:

Mama Ru - Improving on this front, but started the game with asking for roll claims.
RegRider - Too passive.
Save The Dragons - Has posted almost nothing.
Dwlee99 - They have school but still have a fluffy iso. Proactive in that they were first to vote for RegRider though.
Dunnstral - Posted even less than Save The Dragons.

[Dwlee99]

This game isn't as interesting as I'd like

[StrangeMatter]

This game isn't as interesting as I'd like

You know, you could add to this game and make it more interesting.

[StrangeMatter]

I'm just assuming these are your scumreads right. You haven't gone into any detail about why you have those reads, so can you maybe explain those please?

The contestants that are safe are "town reads" as who may call them.

What about the second part of this though?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

This game isn't as interesting as I'd like

I feel like people are wanting to wait until N1 to get actions in like they did in isekai. Idk if I see this Loftwing thing. I dont feel like I have enough strong TRs to poe very well either, but I feel like Bingle and STD are town here. Probably Cyrus too.

I feel like RegRider is a decent shout.

I dont understand the Loftwing votes or QO's Bingle vote so I can start there

[Enchant]

I can't understend Reg logic after rereading his posts.

He votes me, for wasting fudge, he apologises and unvotes after clearing that and then again accuses me for reason i can't comprehend, but doesh't vote.

[Bingle]

Why does it matter so much that the cult is left alive?

I haven’t been arguing this for a while, and in fact no longer feel this way. I was arguing for specifically not eliminating Loftwing for the lolcult claim because I thought loftwing had decent jester equity and jester was game ending.

I don’t have a problem eliminating cult now, but telling the difference between individual types of scum is a fools errand so I’m just looking for scum to eliminate in general. The reason I keep correcting you on scum being a larger threat to scum than town is twofold: A. It’s true, and I always argue true (or true from my POV) game theory regardless in games because I want people to improve and B. Because scum hitting each other makes the game easier for town.

Scum are a larger threat to scum than town because they are also people who don’t share a wincon, but they necessarily have more tools in their toolbox than town does.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I can't understend Reg logic after rereading his posts.

He votes me, for wasting fudge, he apologises and unvotes after clearing that and then again accuses me for reason i can't comprehend, but doesh't vote.

You wanna give this wagon a little momentum and vote him, or is there a reason you're not voting him right now?

[Enchant]

I kinda want explaination of this from him, and then think should i vote here.

[Bingle]

I don't understand why in a game that probably has a larger scum proportion than normal people are being so chickenshit with their votes.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

maybe scum don't want to get shot by other scum

[Dwlee99]

Given how little people want to play scum these days I'd be unsurprised if people fudged to town like I did

[Bingle]

I mean... that makes it worse. This is a game balanced around there being more scum than usual and multiball (8/20 or 40% as opposed to 3/13 or 23%) and the roles are thus stronger for town. There's a plethora of strong town power to counteract the theory that there will be more scum than usual. If there's a roughly normal number of town players AND power roles to justify more scum, then we probably just roflstomp. If there's not a roughly normal number of town players because the fudge system evened out then random eliminations are more likely to be successful so we should be less cautious about our D1, not more. And let's be clear, the fudge dice mechanic is massively townsiding.

This scared to engage crap is just a waste of time.

RegRider, Dunnstral, Loftwing, and Enchant all need to vote something.

Quiet Owl, Dragon of the West, cyrus62 and StrangeMatter all need to push their wagon dejure or move to something that actually has momentum.

@mod: DotW, Reg, and cyrus are all due prods (31 hours over due in DotW's case)

[Bingle]

Seriously, the mod has more posts than >50% of the thread.

[Loftwing]

Meh

VOTE: RegRider

There blood Let be

[StrangeMatter]

VOTE: Loftwing

[cyrus62]

My vote is locked on west.My vote is locked on west.
Pre edit it hasn't been three days since I posted so try checking the list of post In time before saying people need prod you can wait 72hours before posting. I most likely won't post for another two days after this post , since I'm sick of the bs this game . I'm tried of being scum read as town check my fing games I have realy upped my scum game.

[cyrus62]

Seriously, the mod has more posts than >50% of the thread.

More bs I have 101 post this game so far 102 counting this one.

[cyrus62]

@mod the Vic is wrong I voted dragon of the west after I voted dw

[cyrus62]

If there is a vig shoot bingel . If bingel lives to d2 there is a 75% cance they are scum.

[Quiet Owl]

Why does it matter so much that the cult is left alive?

I haven’t been arguing this for a while, and in fact no longer feel this way. I was arguing for specifically not eliminating Loftwing for the lolcult claim because I thought loftwing had decent jester equity and jester was game ending.

I don’t have a problem eliminating cult now, but telling the difference between individual types of scum is a fools errand so I’m just looking for scum to eliminate in general. The reason I keep correcting you on scum being a larger threat to scum than town is twofold: A. It’s true, and I always argue true (or true from my POV) game theory regardless in games because I want people to improve and B. Because scum hitting each other makes the game easier for town.

Scum are a larger threat to scum than town because they are also people who don’t share a wincon, but they necessarily have more tools in their toolbox than town does.

This makes sense. I understand that factions with a nightkill would be at each others throats, but I suspect that scum would see a cult as a second town.

VOTE: Loftwing

[Loftwing]

Hmm, I think I struck a nerve with the scum.

[Mama Ru]

My vote is locked on west.My vote is locked on west.

Pretend you're Ross Matthews and convince me.