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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:04 pm

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I wish I wasn't trusted so I could trust Klick
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:06 pm

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look at him
hes a teddy bear cosplaying as a pirate
he couldnt possibly be evil
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:07 pm

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I'm a duck cosplaying as a sparkly fox what could possibly be cuter than that?
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:11 pm

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alright MafMen what's your solve
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 877, the worst wrote:I'm a duck cosplaying as a sparkly fox what could possibly be cuter than that?
foxes are members of the canidae family, as are wolves
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:12 pm

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bork bork
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:12 pm

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you can include yourself for accuracy i wont deduct points for that
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 880, the worst wrote:bork bork
the totally small poe of you enchant klick and maybe infinity
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:13 pm

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nice quoted the wrong post
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 881, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you can include yourself for accuracy i wont deduct points for that
youre not gonna catch me that easily
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:15 pm

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qualify any of those reads pls or why you're townreading either wisdom or cookie or prism and why your read on Klick dropped so much
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:17 pm

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its probly cuz klick decided to ghost the thread
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:18 pm

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its actually wild how people are incapable of playing with a red role pm
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:18 pm

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asked MafMen not u
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 885, the worst wrote:qualify any of those reads pls or why you're townreading either wisdom or cookie or prism and why your read on Klick dropped so much
it literally has never dropped
i have never once townread klick and i have stated that many times
wisdom just decided to turn me saying his read is weak into an entire argument and force me into a position where i would be defending klick rather than be criticizing his read

i mindmelded with a lot of wisdoms earlier posts and his arrogance/stubbornness throughout our argument reads town
i divulged my cookie read earlier
prism is just gut, i like her attitude and id imagine an experienced player doesnt (as mafia) try to coast a game by saying theyre lost for reads
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:21 pm

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i drank a big beer ok
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:26 pm

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In post 889, MafMen wrote:
In post 885, the worst wrote:qualify any of those reads pls or why you're townreading either wisdom or cookie or prism and why your read on Klick dropped so much
it literally has never dropped
i have never once townread klick and i have stated that many times
wisdom just decided to turn me saying his read is weak into an entire argument and force me into a position where i would be defending klick rather than be criticizing his read

i mindmelded with a lot of wisdoms earlier posts and his arrogance/stubbornness throughout our argument reads town
i divulged my cookie read earlier
prism is just gut, i like her attitude and id imagine an experienced player doesnt (as mafia) try to coast a game by saying theyre lost for reads
you really went through that whole thing just to include klick in your PoE anyway? -_-

like i get that you can get baited into the argument, but why did you think it was so important to call out wisdom's "bad reasoning" there

prism coasting is probably +town for her tbh, she has a lot of pride in her scumgame
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 891, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 889, MafMen wrote:
In post 885, the worst wrote:qualify any of those reads pls or why you're townreading either wisdom or cookie or prism and why your read on Klick dropped so much
it literally has never dropped
i have never once townread klick and i have stated that many times
wisdom just decided to turn me saying his read is weak into an entire argument and force me into a position where i would be defending klick rather than be criticizing his read

i mindmelded with a lot of wisdoms earlier posts and his arrogance/stubbornness throughout our argument reads town
i divulged my cookie read earlier
prism is just gut, i like her attitude and id imagine an experienced player doesnt (as mafia) try to coast a game by saying theyre lost for reads
you really went through that whole thing just to include klick in your PoE anyway? -_-

like i get that you can get baited into the argument, but why did you think it was so important to call out wisdom's "bad reasoning" there

prism coasting is probably +town for her tbh, she has a lot of pride in her scumgame
he attacked my argument assuming i townread klick and despite how many times i clarified otherwise he kept going, cornering me into defending klick
thats how that argument went
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:33 pm

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i didnt find it important at all, or think it was 'clever' like prism said
i made the original post with one intention and that was saying his read was weak, it was that simple, and it got blown up
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:34 pm

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ok but why keep arguing with him
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:35 pm

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In post 894, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok but why keep arguing with him
eventually he started coming after me thinking i was scum so at that point there was no going back
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:36 pm

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i mean if you understood from page 1 that he was like arguing with you about something you never even said, why keep going for like 5 pages
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:40 pm

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In post 896, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i mean if you understood from page 1 that he was like arguing with you about something you never even said, why keep going for like 5 pages
part 1 of the argument was him misinterpreting me and me clarifying he was wrong, also trying to bring it back on track about his read being weak
part 2 was him scumreading me so i indirectly defended myself by defending my argument about his read
i couldnt just suddenly stop responding anywhere throughout that argument
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:48 pm

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i think it's believable that town!you felt roped into the argument, but i still kinda think it's scum-indicative

like instead of talking about how you think town can't PoE that well in this setup you could've just accepted that someone scumreads your nullread

it's not really a big point anyway
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:49 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 504, MafMen wrote:for the record i dont townread klick, just saying that in case any misconceptions arise
i just think the read isnt fair
In post 508, MafMen wrote:
In post 507, Wisdom wrote:Like the point is that Klick has scum motivation to make that push, whether there are lims and nks in the game or not

The rest is irrelevant
they really dont, and its not 'dodging the point' to disagree with you
im gonna stop before this goes in circles lol
In post 522, MafMen wrote:
In post 510, Wisdom wrote:I outlined what the scum motivation is and you said nothing about it, instead you argued generics about whether the game has lims or not

so yeah
your exact words were that klick hypothetically achieves lowering tammy's towncred and making klick look like theyre scumhunting
i say its unfair to make that judgement as there is realistically zero scum motivation and/or equal scum motivation as town behind klicks read

go ahead and scumread klick but im going to call out wrong reasons when i feel i see it
In post 535, MafMen wrote:
In post 533, Wisdom wrote:Im not eliminating anything
Youre arguing that the scum motivation I outlined has zero scum motivation in it
im arguing that klicks read itself has zero to equal amounts of scum motivation as town to it not whatever world you cooked up where klick has to be fake scumhunting

said times where i either tried to end the argument or where i clarified my stance on klick
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In post 532, MafMen wrote:
In post 527, Wisdom wrote:
In post 522, MafMen wrote:i say its unfair to make that judgement as there is realistically zero scum motivation and/or equal scum motivation as town behind klicks read
There is zero scum motivation in trying not to have Tammy getting townread by everyone?
There is zero scum motivation in trying to look like he's scumhunting?
Yes, you can argue there could be equal town motivation with a sentence like "Okay but maybe Klick is town and he's genuinely worried about Tammy and thought he should voice it" but you arent doing that, instead youre being weird and just making me think youre scum
jesus you keep putting me in a spot that forces me to whiteknight klick
There is zero scum motivation in trying to look like he's scumhunting?
dont just slip this line in here
this completely eliminates any world with town!klick and acts like its not klick just regularly scumhunting

so called part 2 where he started scumreading me thus cornering me into defending klick
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