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[Dwlee99]

What are you seeing there dats

Fmpov gera has made some surface level posts and don't nothing townie since his extremely scummy entrance

And yes, meta bad, but I don't even think you can claim this would be meta town for him

[Dwlee99]

i can't ignore wiki because it drives me up the fucking wall when i'm having a loud voice be that wrong about the things i'm saying

Yea but responding only makes him talk more I realized

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsa I'm very confident you're gonna flip red but I know you have to pretend you won't and that is sad

Pathetic (2)

To the town (not the crazy ones), after my flip, not let this go away. I'm saying this, because people don't consider my posts/reads even if I flip green

[Dwlee99]

Okay salsa

[Salsabil Faria]

My

gera

meta,

Dwlee

was also there in that game but for some reason not considering this now:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87211

[Dwlee99]

Yea the thing is gera is playing differently this game than there so your "meta" is just a bad attempt at diffusing pressure on him

[Salsabil Faria]

But I'm seeing the play differently thing, seems similar.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm not*

[Salsabil Faria]

Can we vote gera

What’s is the case on

gera

?

Can we vote gera

What’s is the case on

gera

?

That he has a red role pm

Literally just ignore Wiki datisi. Why are you engaging there

i can't ignore someone who's making such bullshit arguments at me, because people are lazy and might decide to just sheep him without fact checking

can you give me a case on scum!gera while i catch up please

7 pages already!

This game is going to be too much.





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VOTE: dwlee

Scum entrance

I am a day cop, Dwlee is a checked mafia goon.

Hard claim

Hard claim 2

I am already VOTE: dwlee

if wiki retracts this claim at all, will vote for them untill they are gone from the game

This post didn't quote for some reason but this is also part of scum entrance

[Salsabil Faria]

^They have no interest to sort me or engage with me, only here to tunnel me.

[Dwlee99]

Cause you're scum

Do you think I am? Because last I checked your story was that you were townreading me

[Salsabil Faria]

Where?
As town, you can't be so sure on anyone but you're that sure on me on D1 already?? Why not voting me then and convince people to eliminate me if you're

that

sure?

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we vote gera

if it's just for stuff regarding the daycop claim, idc to

[Dwlee99]

Where?
As town, you can't be so sure on anyone but you're that sure on me on D1 already?? Why not voting me then and convince people to eliminate me if you're

that

sure?

Cause I'm voting gera, a different scum

[Salsabil Faria]

4 scums + 2 scum friendly towns (if

Dwlee

is town, not sure yet;

Wiki

is destructive town imo) ⇨ town is screwed already

[Gamma Emerald]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

In isolation I'd say this is Town Gamma, unless Gamma wants to pocket Wiki for some odd reason.

Re 767: I'm town.
Not sure about scum!

Datisi

yet and

Wiki

isn’t scum imo, which left

ico

but

GE

also voted

ico

, so I'm not sure about this also.

Scum need

Wiki

to be alive in this game. Scum!

GE

's buddy attempt isn’t that weird imo. Like

Dwlee

said,

Wiki

won't be night killed. So, if they get eliminated in the day phase, scum can use their defending

Wiki

thing as a way out.

UNVOTE: A50

VOTE: GE

so you think I'm trying to keep Wiki alive as a game-ending mislim? I mean, that's kinda reasonable to think that, but nah, I'm just keeping limbait town from getting yeeted. Your consistent problem with that feels like you're upset I'm stonewalling your mislim chance.

[Salsabil Faria]

Where?
As town, you can't be so sure on anyone but you're that sure on me on D1 already?? Why not voting me then and convince people to eliminate me if you're

that

sure?

Cause I'm voting gera, a different scum

K

[Dwlee99]

How are wiki and I both "scum friendly town" if we have basically opposite reads?

[Gamma Emerald]

7 pages already!

This game is going to be too much.





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VOTE: dwlee

Scum entrance

okay, maybe you're right on gera

[Salsabil Faria]

What scum would do all the shit Wiki has done, especially newbscum?

In isolation I'd say this is Town Gamma, unless Gamma wants to pocket Wiki for some odd reason.

Re 767: I'm town.
Not sure about scum!

Datisi

yet and

Wiki

isn’t scum imo, which left

ico

but

GE

also voted

ico

, so I'm not sure about this also.

Scum need

Wiki

to be alive in this game. Scum!

GE

's buddy attempt isn’t that weird imo. Like

Dwlee

said,

Wiki

won't be night killed. So, if they get eliminated in the day phase, scum can use their defending

Wiki

thing as a way out.

UNVOTE: A50

VOTE: GE

so you think I'm trying to keep Wiki alive as a game-ending mislim? I mean, that's kinda reasonable to think that, but nah, I'm just keeping limbait town from getting yeeted. Your consistent problem with that feels like you're upset I'm stonewalling your mislim chance.

Then vote me!

[Salsabil Faria]

How are wiki and I both "scum friendly town" if we have basically opposite reads?

It’s not about having same reads.

Wiki

's logic to scum hunt is not helping town ⇨ helping scum

Your tunnelling on town (me) without reconsidering ⇨ helping scum

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

[Datisi]

What changed that made you decide her earlier logic was more sound than you originally thought?

like this annoys me because i never said her logic wasn't sound, she was scum *despite* because surprise, scum can make arguments that are logically sound

obviously i don't find her as scummy as i did earlier but you see my point

You literally said you hated her posts though? I'm trying to understand how you think her posts make sense but still think she's scummy.

you're not serious.

yes, i said i hated her posts. because i thought they were scum!indicative for aimless questions and barebone solving.

however. she said "if one of wiki/dwlee is scum, the other isn't". that got misrepped as "one of wiki/dwlee is scum". she then claimed that she did not say that. i can understand that her claim of "i did not say that" makes sense, because she did not say that. that doesn't make her town. the fact that she was telling the truth about her previous post doesn't make her town. you do know that scum can sometimes make posts that make sense, right?

What do you think she's saying?

I do have other reads, yes.

Can you explain the thought process behind your vote here?

oh my god

so you accused her of pocketing andres, right?

and she said that she finds it nice that you think scum!her would be able to pocket someone

and then you reply with "aha, so you're saying you think you could pocket someone!"

which (1) clearly isn't what she was saying, she was just saying your thoughts are nice and not agreeing with them, and (2) even if she was saying that, how is that a scumclaim? like, i think scum!me here would be able to pocket players like ico or t3, am i now lockscum too?

...What? I never accused her of pocketing Andres. I never accused her of pocketing anyone. She made that pocket comment towards T3, not me. And I didn't say she was lockscum either, hell, I didn't even say "aha, so you're saying you think you could pocket someone!" You're putting words in my mouth and you can easily fact check that. Everything you're accusing me of here factually did not happen.

The only thing I said was ask why she was scum claiming. I clearly interpreted it as scum claiming and asked her to clear it up, and then further explained why I saw it as scum claiming.

okay, that first bit is my mistake, i was rushing this morning and thought 521 was yours, not t3's.

doesn't defeat the rest of my point, however. 539 said "You're saying that you're mafia and that you think you could pocket somebody." i don't know how else to interpret that, considering, again, she did not say that. like, the rest of my post still applies, t3 thought she could be pocketing andres, she said it was nice t3 thought that she could be able to, and you jumped in claiming she was saying she thought that.

and like, 528 is also clearly not her claiming scum. it's a response to your 517, where you both called her read fake, and asked why should you be the one to want her out. her answer was "if you think my read is fake, then shouldn't you think i'm scum?". but you twisted it around into a scumclaim???

my thought process behind the vote is that you keep misconstructing people's arguments to the point i have a hard time believing you genuinely think what you're saying, especially since you claimed you have decent experience. and you seem to have zero reads besides sel. like it reeks of scum who is trying to appear busy by "tunneling" someone, and doing it with godawful arguments too

so what are your reads besides sel?

What argument have I misconstrued? This is the only one you could possibly argue that for and you're just wrong anyway.

I don't have "zero reads", I've already given takes.

How am I trying to appear busy or tunneling when I've been interacting with multiple people and keep getting dragged back to an argument from several hundred posts ago? I moved on yet I keep getting asked to defend my read. You can even see that I stopped talking to Sel about it before you dug it back up again, so I'm not sure what eise you want from me?

Why aren't you accusing Sel or Wiki of the same thing?

sel's "if one of wiki/dwlee is scum, the other is town", "scumclaiming", and "saying she thinks she can pocket". and my "how can you say sel has a decent argument while still thinking she's scum?".

ok, going trough your iso.
- scumreading wiki because unexplained reads
- scumreading then townreading gamma (asking town to towntell/good strategy)
- townreading wiki bc he's probably flailing
- the scumread of sel starts
- scumreading me for parroting t3
- scumreading me for scummy reaction over The Bad Read
- and finally, scumreading salsa

like, i'm sorry, but these aren't that many takes, even if i count the very minor one (gamma) that were given off-handedly over a single post or two. like, you've given takes on 5 people so far. not enough for me to know where your head is holistically.

a different question, why did you decide to vote salsa instead of me? you found both of us scummy. (not saying you're scum for voting her.)

holy shit the pedits, i was on this for way too long.

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

[Dwlee99]

How are wiki and I both "scum friendly town" if we have basically opposite reads?

It’s not about having same reads.

Wiki

's logic to scum hunt is not helping town ⇨ helping scum

Your tunnelling on town (me) without reconsidering ⇨ helping scum

Literally the only thing Wiki has said correctly this game is that meta is bad and ofc it's the thing you disagree with