Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Ydrasse]

>_<

[skitter30]

You were hypothesizing me scum in the pink chat I thought...

Okay NVM your first thing there was saying you "feel better" about me there

Skitter

susses me a good bit at this point.

i don't remember you wanting dunn at all

[Taly]

WHAT?

[Taly]

HAVE YOU READ ME AT ALL THIS GAME?

[Taly]

BRB rushing to computer

[petapan]

(also pointing out that it doesn't seem particularly likely that you're actually gonna get flipped here, so not sure what you're worrying about ...)

i think it's more up in the air than many believe and i am covering my bases in the event you get what you want

[Taly]

I've actively pressured

Dunn/b] since Event 1

[skitter30]

(also pointing out that it doesn't seem particularly likely that you're actually gonna get flipped here, so not sure what you're worrying about ...)

i think it's more up in the air than many believe and i am covering my bases in the event you get what you want

fair enough

[Gammagooey]

ulyana
Ydrasse
SirCakez
Infinity 324
Toogeloo
Dunnstral

Here's a list of people I'd be cool shooting each other today. I vaguely remember townreading the other people the last time I was actually thinking about the game, but I don't feel super confident in this poe.

VOTE: Dunnstral
I think we should do this

Can we put infinity and Dunnstral in the shootout please?

Stop this shit fight and flip infinity/dunn please. Cakez is town for agreeing with me on both of these reads

I'm gonna try a pooky trick: this day phase should end by page 130, preferably with Dunn and infinity being the ones shooting each other. If you disagree, stop doing so

not sure what you're point is, i've been calling you town for quite a long while

you voted Dwlee during the setup for the Russian roulette duel at one point? Tbf reading through 130+ pages in 4 days does not give me a good impression of how extensive "a long while" is time-wise tho

SKITTER can you give me like a timeline/summary of who you were suspecting and how strongly through events 1-3? (also I might just call them days 1 and 2 later because that feels correct to me)

I still want this when you have time btw. I don't really understand your read progression on either of peta or infinity at the moment and going through some of your thoughts about them (and any other strong reads) from previous days would help me out a lot with that

[ulyana]

peta [3]:

infinity[1], skitter[1], toog[1]

infinity [4]:

peta[1], dwlee[2], cakez[1]


pass: gamma


this is my informal VC, i could assume how certain people will vote but don't want to without a hard verbal commitment

i would like it if people could out their vote if they're decided

if vote occurred right now i’d vote for infinity yea but I think this vote count thing kinda negative value even though i get the accountability aspect

[Taly]

Or, you could be town with a motive closer to mine in similarity.

And your motive is what?

Hint: How does town win this game?

I just love to play with my hand close to the fire.

We should proceed as if whoever we are voting for will die

And if they don't die, we can do something different with the rest of the day

I'll concede if the majority agrees with this approach, but I'd rather not to.

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so

I agree with leashing him in some form.... everything after the "who" part is where you lost me.

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

There are no power roles so there's no real reason to do this

I disagree. What if someone had a thought or question they wanted to get out before EoD? I mean, it's unrealistic to have everybody approve of when to end the day

But I've certainly seen many votes reach capacity before I was ready for EoD and they don't historically play out to my preference.

I voice this out of courtesy.

Gamma had an opportunity to vote himself into the chair though.

So the theory that they are playing to get into the chair is probably incorrect regardless (though that doesn't necessarily make him town because the chair isn't necessarily or even likely to be good)

I hate this from Dunnstral

100 points for anyone who can figure out why I hate this

Dunn

presumes that scum-

Gamma

would want the chair and therefore could be informed?

I want to flip Uly and Dunn now.

What happened to the multiple people who were willing to hammer Gamma?

Gamma had an opportunity to vote himself into the chair though.

So the theory that they are playing to get into the chair is probably incorrect regardless (though that doesn't necessarily make him town because the chair isn't necessarily or even likely to be good)

I hate this from Dunnstral

100 points for anyone who can figure out why I hate this

Dunn

presumes that scum-

Gamma

would want the chair and therefore could be informed?

I'm not presuming anything, I'm responding to the idea that scum gamma was trying to get into the chair. I'm pointing out that he had a chance to get into the chair if he wanted to.

Then your confusion with

Gamma

not getting flipped perplexes me even further. What even is your read of the slot and why were you interested in ending this event phase quickly?

I'm not sure what you're getting at but I never said any of that.

Then why was it painful to call attention to the vote counter? I'm trying to understand the benefit to a quicker elimination on

Gamma

was.

I don't receive much from your posts to be honest. Some of your opinions and ideas come from a mindset that seems more survivalistic than solving.

okay well i'm town who would like to play future minigames and am not particularly strong at solving without information and currently your method of sorting me is flipping me so maybe try something else

This is exactly my point.

You expect me to know your alignment to be town but that is unclear. Don't you think it's more productive for you to tell me your current POV of the game even if you're not confident in it?

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so

I agree with leashing him in some form.... everything after the "who" part is where you lost me.

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

There are no power roles so there's no real reason to do this

I disagree. What if someone had a thought or question they wanted to get out before EoD? I mean, it's unrealistic to have everybody approve of when to end the day

But I've certainly seen many votes reach capacity before I was ready for EoD and they don't historically play out to my preference.

I voice this out of courtesy.

Not every mafia game needs to be painful

Then what was this post aimed at? Not my reply?

Then what was this post aimed at? Not my reply?

No that wasn't aimed at you, it was aimed at Prism and Gamma.

All right then!

Dunn

is a good person to chair imo but it's partially why he's been so absent. I don't think I'd get much from his flip. He feels LHF. Does someone have a meta-take?

VOTE: Dunnstral

Outside of

Gamma V Galron

,

Pooky

directed majority of his attention, more so EoD, to

Saber/Dunn/Peta

. I think that contributed to his NK.

We won't know the benefit.

Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse, Sircakez
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Petapan
Could do with a touching-up: Dunnstral, Dwlee, Ulyana
Remove them from the premises: Saber, Galron, Toogeloo

I think I’m sitting somewhere around here?
FYI I kinda felt like Saber’s response to my question about the progression on me felt a little sus

I'd drop

Peta, Ydra, and Dunn

all down a tier.

Want to join my cause,

Galron

?

Your cause of pressuring Cakez?

Voting Dunn

Haha. I want

Dunn and Peta

to be the duelists.

I'm mindmelding strongly with

Saber

. I think it's best I lean in and refrain from suspicion here. I did notice that she hasn't touched my recent posts on her.

I think I'd prefer

peta

over

Dunn

at the moment. I did not like his interaction with

Galron

at all.

Despite my qualms, the amount of effort and being top poster by a long shot is quite unlikely to come from a stagehand, though. Contestants dominate that statistic a lot. I may just dislike his erratic playstyle.

Do you find a benefit of the doubt with slots like

Dunn/Peta/Galron

?

Also, I have absolutely no clue if

Dunn

is reading this game beyond every two or third post that mentions him.

This isn't a slight at all, I just can't feel compelled to think he's town because he's returned to the exact same conversations as the previous game phases, and has added no additional content. The coasting feels scummy because it has worked in his favor.

Most vocal stagehand or suspicions from Pooky I can see are on Gamma, Dunnstral, and petapan. He also supported a S-S theory for the two leading wagons.

just gonna point out that even though i townread gamma at this point we technically we haven't really seen anything that disproves s/s

if they were actually svs wagons picking your partner and then sabotaging the flip is a great way to make you look unaligned in that situation

While I agree with this, a

Gamma/Galron

duel feels both like something scum would predict and a rehash from the chair vote. I'd like to see new contestants in the hot seat.

Dunn

feels closer to town than earlier this phase. But I just don't like the taste of two scumreads I pushed on relatively lukewarm slots to diminish so quickly.

Unwnd, if you're going to rip into my soul, type quicker.

I got a curfew.

Also sorry but what does this mean wrt how ur reading unwnd?

I took his last post of "but actually" as a "will get to you

Taly

ASAP."

I felt his mortal-kombat reaction just now doesnt come from scum-him
Dunn wouod also be a good vote

VOTE: Dunn

Teamwork makes the dreamwork.

Dunn

, do something.

VOTE: sircakez


taly get back here

Peta's

latest reply to me was sound, though.

i just want to say, i appreciate you this game, as the only person on the playerlist i had no familiarity with you've been a delight, and i'm sorry if my earlier aggression was offputting (i know it was...probably uncharitable to galron and unfortunate. but some of that is that this is a game where not everything people say can be taken at face value)

i do not want you to feel like you are frozen out this game because i hate when that happens to me as town

and i feel as though you are quite likely to be town and if it's possible i want to reconcile the issues you have with me and see if we can work things out

Consider this reconciled. I just wanted to know that you took my suspicion in good faith. Playing with you has been nice as well.

Why is

Cakez

the optimal vote over

Dunn

?

Can the scum on

unwnd's

wagon start bussing whatever partner(s) that reside in

{Cakez/Dunn}

?

[Taly]

I've had SOME interactions with

Dunn

where I reconsidered him, was pacified by his replies to me in the moment, and was focused on other players-

But

Dunn

is a slot that I've suspected a lot this game, and placed unnecessary attention on.

[Taly]

I've had SOME interactions with

Dunn

where I reconsidered him, was pacified by his replies to me in the moment, and was focused on other players-

But

Dunn

is a slot that I've suspected a lot this game, and placed unnecessary attention on.

This is against the argument that I'd be scum with him, as some people have already seemed to either not be fond of my progression on him or... in

skitter's

case... didn't pay attention I guess.

[Harley Quinn]

"The Fateful Duel Ends!"

Event Rules

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Decision 3.1.FINAL

Remaining Pulls:

5

Toogeloo:

Survives

Dunnstral:

Eliminated

[/mech]

Now playing..

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Tia - Deal with the devil

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Toog probably town from this, I think. Two dueling scums seems unlikely.

[Infinity 324]

Toog probably town from this, I think. Two dueling scums seems unlikely.

toog + harley ship it

[Gamma Emerald]

Dunn gets in duel with or without infinity

That raises another question: with Saber probably being town, scum!finity would have been shifting the wagon into their buddy earlier?

Get that right. YW.

Why is my slot getting pushed? Gamma are you really this terrible at reading me?

I forgor who you are (I think you told me in Dark Waltz)

[Taly]

WHAT?

HAVE YOU READ ME AT ALL THIS GAME?

BRB rushing to computer

Oof, I'm trying not to do all-caps in games anymore. Sorry!

[Gammagooey]

sheesh

Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while

Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?

[Taly]

I think

Infinity/Peta

could use some hugs right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want skitter after infinity regardless of infinity's alignment I think

such garbage

I don't want y'all in ELO with me even if you're town

the fuck did i do wrong?

Oh my goooood

INFINITY IS TOWN

[Taly]

Also my tonal range has been officially broken.

Taly

is no longer a force of elegance, that mask is shattered now.

[Taly]

I want skitter after infinity regardless of infinity's alignment I think

such garbage

I don't want y'all in ELO with me even if you're town

the fuck did i do wrong?

Oh my goooood

INFINITY IS TOWN

I'm going to need a hug because I'm increasingly not wanting either limmed.

[Harley Quinn]

Dunn gets in duel with or without infinity

That raises another question: with Saber probably being town, scum!finity would have been shifting the wagon into their buddy earlier?

Get that right. YW.

Why is my slot getting pushed? Gamma are you really this terrible at reading me?

I forgor who you are (I think you told me in Dark Waltz)

Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that. I don’t recall outing my alt in that game to anyone but I think Alisae might have guessed? But if you have any idea, please don’t out it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Another inconsistency with Skitter's "infinity is town because Dunn vote!" Thing when I voted Dunn way before that and was pushing him to be part of the duel very hard

Actually yeah

You and I WERE the strongest pushers on

Dunn

Event 2.

I’m pretty sure most of the time I was pushing Dunn as well
I did try to put Saber against Toog at one point but that was because unwnd wanted a saber flip

[Harley Quinn]

sheesh

Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while

Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?

Well, in general, when you have two wagons and one flips scum, the cw tends to be town. I’ve seen very few games with two competing scum wagons.

Okay, thanks for the tip, I’ll do that.