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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:36 am

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mmmmmm
I'm gonna be in and out today but i wanna start this by saying that i have ember and enchant at townleans
(galron too but)
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:40 am

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also i barely realized what the "just because the game is called i tell you what i'm doing" joke meant
so there's that
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:38 am

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I exist will try to get to this as soon as I can
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:46 pm

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Galron said line about "I would shot DkKuba" and i realised he probably town because of that.
cowsloveSushirolls and Save The Dragons tried to give "i would never do that strange nk lol" impression, so i think mafia hiding here, because my read kinda worked with Galron. But i am not sure, both or Ember is partner with some (That E-1 speedrun vote was really horrible). Either way, i am not voting Ember today, even if she could be partner with some.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:05 am

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In post 403, Enchant wrote:Galron said line about "I would shot DkKuba" and i realised he probably town because of that.
cowsloveSushirolls and Save The Dragons tried to give "i would never do that strange nk lol" impression, so i think mafia hiding here, because my read kinda worked with Galron. But i am not sure, both or Ember is partner with some (That E-1 speedrun vote was really horrible). Either way, i am not voting Ember today, even if she could be partner with some.

Galron said line about "I would shot DkKuba" and i realised he probably town because of that.cowsloveSushirolls and Save The Dragons tried to give "i would never do that strange nk lol" impression, so i think mafia hiding here, because my read kinda worked with Galron. But i am not sure, both or Ember is partner with some (That E-1 speedrun vote was really horrible). Either way, i am not voting Ember today, even if she could be partner with some.
again, i didn't say that to distance myself from the kill but to show that it influenced my read on emberbloom
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:32 pm

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desperately need someone to bounce ideas off of
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:49 am

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It's probably emberbloom?
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:02 am

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Explain?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:52 am

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STD and toxic were on my wagon d1 but did not want to hammer Hockey yesterday.

Why's that?


On the note of VCA, in the timelines where I was scum here's your partner options:


Enchant - I'd have publicly asked my partner to vote d1 so that I'd sheep (post ). Either I'm Spicy Scum, or Enchant isn't my partner. Like, Enchant also blatantly not voting d1 looks bad if I get elimmed day 2. Small chance but unlikely.

cows - put me at E1 d1 with the chance for Hockey to hammer if he was around. Then I put Hockey at E1 right after cows on d2. There's some S rank cheeky-ass scum play here if cows was my partner, I think. I also don't think cows talks about me and the Koba kill with us both as scum either.

Toxic - Reversed. I put Hockey at E1, toxic blatantly doesn't hammer but E1s right behind me. I guess there's the thing where Koba went after toxic then I went after Koba d1, but, I don't think the Hockey wagon stuff makes sense for us as partners unless he was aiming to bus me today and set up to win a 3p. But I don't think there's a good choice for that endgame setup with the other 3 players, yknow? There's a chance I guess but least likely.

STD - also doesn't hammer Hockey behind me d2; risky play if we're both scum (also with pushing me right now, like???). Further, had the opportunity to push Hockey d1 instead of me but kept his vote up to deadline. With the chance of Hockey hammering me d1, again, you have a very uphill battle ahead to make that move. Don't think we're partners.


None of these seem particularly convincing, although I'm biased. Enchant or toxic by sorta PoE?

But hey.

If any of those arguments don't hold or someone has a counter, my best question-answer to "Ember is scum" is "well who's my partner".

Above is my best objective shot at figuring that out and I got basically nothin' convincing.

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Using that as a warmup I'll see if I can look at non-me pairs tonight/tomorrow. I think toxic/STD and cows/Enchant are most likely off the top of my head, but there's also:
- toxic cows
- toxic Enchant
- std cows
- std Enchant

So I'll do a dive later. This isn't actually useful game content for myself since I'm town but maybe it'll help someone else.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:54 am

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I made an assumption in that above post, btw.

Should we massclaim? Or is just "doing it live" the strategy here.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:58 am

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In post 407, Enchant wrote:Explain?
Maybe koba was right lol
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:18 pm

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In post 403, Enchant wrote:Galron said line about "I would shot DkKuba" and i realised he probably town because of that.
cowsloveSushirolls and Save The Dragons tried to give "i would never do that strange nk lol" impression, so i think mafia hiding here, because my read kinda worked with Galron. But i am not sure, both or Ember is partner with some (That E-1 speedrun vote was really horrible). Either way, i am not voting Ember today, even if she could be partner with some.
So who will you vote for?
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:51 pm

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In post 408, Emberbloom wrote:Enchant - I'd have publicly asked my partner to vote d1 so that I'd sheep (post 303). Either I'm Spicy Scum, or Enchant isn't my partner. Like, Enchant also blatantly not voting d1 looks bad if I get elimmed day 2. Small chance but unlikely.
i like this evaluation esp since i did some of what's mentioned on my own in order to be comfortable enough to townlean you and enchant together when coming in
it disregarded any sort of VCA, though thanks for the work

the not voting point was in my head for a bit but i disregarded it because it felt useless without knowing what enchant was thinking at the time
@enchant ?

std, who are your bottom 2
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:04 am

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toxic and ember
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:51 pm

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In post 408, Emberbloom wrote:STD and toxic were on my wagon d1 but did not want to hammer Hockey yesterday.
i was on vacation during d2 and checking in like once every 48 hours

what point are you trying to make here tho
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:54 pm

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enchant do you have any other thoughts besides the nightkill reactions
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:01 pm

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In post 411, toxictaipan wrote:So who will you vote for?
i hate this upon reflection

it's kind of like egging enchant on to vote players that toxic knows are town without providing any content
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 416, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 411, toxictaipan wrote:So who will you vote for?
i hate this upon reflection

it's kind of like egging enchant on to vote players that toxic knows are town without providing any content
No it's more like trying to get enchant to commit to
something
since the vote hesitancy D1. Read it however you like, though.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:26 am

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ok how do we get more discussion

enchant could be scum for lurking and jumping on the whole "ooh look at the people responding to the night kill" being his whole stick. enchant can you come back and say anything

cows come back and say stuff i think you're town, what are your thoughts?

emberbloom, did you do a dive, which pairing do you think is the most likely after said dive?

toxic what are your thoughts who are the scum?

i want to relook at koba vs. ember d1
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:39 am

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Votecount:
  • Not voting: All
With 5 alive it takes 3 to eliminate.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:00 am

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In post 418, Save The Dragons wrote:ok how do we get more discussion

enchant could be scum for lurking and jumping on the whole "ooh look at the people responding to the night kill" being his whole stick. enchant can you come back and say anything

cows come back and say stuff i think you're town, what are your thoughts?

emberbloom, did you do a dive, which pairing do you think is the most likely after said dive?

toxic what are your thoughts who are the scum?

i want to relook at koba vs. ember d1
You calling Cows town is kinda hell. Can you explain why?

About Ember and "I am not partner because that reasons". Well, it hurted her image for a bit instead. Points could be valid if she didn't pointed them, but it looks prepared for me otherwise. But point "who is my partner" is valid, because i can't exactly think about someone.

Toxic is strange case. Actually makes sense as your partner too, because it makes sense for one maf to abstaine voting and other to vote.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:15 am

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cows seems genuine and seems to be hunting scum i think he's town. do you think he's scum?

why does toxic/me make sense? because i didn't vote for hockey d2 while on vacation? i've been pushing toxic all game
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:22 am

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Woah. Really. You pushed Toxic d1. For a bit... Then voted Ember.
... And then you agreed to let Hockey get wagoned by person you think is maf? Like right, you believed they both maf, but... Really. It looks like bad distancing.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:56 am

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That's ridiculous
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:58 am

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I voted ember at day end to try and prevent no lim.

I said I wouldn't mind a hockey wagon d2 while I was away because hockey was my other scumread d1 and I didnt have time to look at much of what was going on.

I'm pushing toxic again today.

Do you really think we are partners? Is that your solve or are you just speculating.
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