Open 834: Trust Fall - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like theres literally 0 scum incentive for me to pledge to sui bomb him

unless he thinks im bluffing

except i dont bluff im literally that pissed off at him

[Wisdom]

I actually still dont understand what you mean by "suicide bomb"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the problem with playing dumb

is that its not believable when u act so fucking smart all the time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i already explained it to you stop pretending you dont know what im talking about or basic game strategy

[Prism]

I also don't know if you're bluffing or not. Make it two morons if you'd like, but maybe you're right that Wisdom should know better.

I was fine leaving it at first for pressure but this has gotten just vicious and dramatically overblown. By your own admission, your insistence that the other 8 players cede their agency to you is not just to pressure but is apparently serious.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i never bluff

[Wisdom]

wisdom

if i trust everyone except you

that means i stay behind with you

it means i lose if i am scum

This you mean?
I dont get it, trusting everyone means someone can leave with you, and it doesn't stop anyone else from trusting me either

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not asking any1 to cede agency to me

wisdom already took agency when he decided he can rogue trust whoever the fuck he wants

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wisdom

if i trust everyone except you

that means i stay behind with you

it means i lose if i am scum

This you mean?
I dont get it, trusting everyone means someone can leave with you, and it doesn't stop anyone else from trusting me either

keep playing dumb dude

[Prism]

I might be making it worse at this point so I am going to step away from the computer for a second, give you a chance to vent if what I'm saying is frustrating, but at that point I'd urge you to do the same and maybe go outside and feel the breeze.

[Wisdom]

Prism can you explain what suicide bombing is since you seem to understand it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like do you actually believe this act wisdom is doing where he pretends he doesnt know basic mechanics?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like he knows he fucked up by trying to discredit me when i threatened to sui bomb him so now hes going to walk it back by pretending he doesnt even understand game mechanics.

[Prism]

Wisdom, to fully flesh that out actually before I go:

Pooky is saying you choose 4 players to flip. If any are scum, he is holding you accountable and there is one scum left.

He is trusting every other player alive at that point. With one scum they're either all town (as accepting wins for scum) or Pooky is scum. That means they will pair off and leave you and Pooky alone.

If you're scum and choose to give town 2 free pairings he's okay with that trade so the suicide bomb world does not apply.

P-Edit: Already ahead of you lmao

[Wisdom]

Oh ok I didnt take the 4 flips thing into account since we're not doing that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and prism im not doing this out of malice or hatred or whatever

the game state is stagnant

the pools are clearly marked off

wisdom has decided to be town dictator by throwing rogue trusts


either the scum are in the lhf pool and its an easy town win

or wisdom + someone is scum and the scum are in pole position

either way my solution is winning for town.

[Prism]

He has not decided to be town dictator and is rejecting it completely. Perhaps he is scum, but he's not town dictator.

I am again going for a walk. If you don't want someone making any trust without the explicit OK from all of town don't play this setup. Every town player has the ability and even duty to take some unilateral action. You're taking Wisdom exercising that right in limited fashion and demanding we all give up and play the game your way and blame Wisdom for it instead of you, even as Wisdom rejects it and I voice my opposition. Your solution is also not clearly winning for town, because it depends on Wisdom being either perfectly right on 4 (really 5) players or scum.

Go take a walk, dude.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hes rejecting it because hes scum

[Prism]

OK. I will take that into consideration.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok ill go take a walk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont know why i even bothered caring in the first place

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My take is that Pooky is scum who came into this game deciding to do his little rp with Tammy flirting, then I ruined it for him and he found a new thing to do now

btw i am fully fine with f2 with wisdom since he thinks im scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we can stay behind together

[Prism]

Maybe you're right and Wisdom is scum. I still prefer Klick in the final two but there are two scum somewhere, not one.

I'm really curious about what Tammy & Infinity think.

[Wisdom]

Maybe you're right and Wisdom is scum.

What are you agreeing with?