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[Three]

A50 why not salsa

I dunno. She tried to pocket me, didn't she? I'm glad to accept that pocket for today.

Yeah, pocket the person who also in people’s suspect list..

Uh, yeah, exactly. Pocketing and/or defending a suspicious townie is a common scum tactic.

This is the 2nd time you're misinterpreting me, but before clear what I ACTUALLY said, are you agreeing you're scummy? Cause I was defending YOU!

???

You're literally referring to A50 in that post. My name isn't even mentioned there.

There is the proof of your misinterpretation of my post:

A50

said scum!me is trying to pocket me and I replied sarcastically that yeah, scum!me will pocket the person who themselves in people's suspect list. What I meant there is, if scum!me want to pocket someone, that person would be the widely townread person or someone whose trust would be beneficial for scum!me. But here, people don't trust

A50

that much, so there is no point for scum!me to pocket them. And you said scum!me is trying to pocket suspicious townie as a scum tactic aka misinterpretation on Jupiter level

Can we stop with the fake misinterpretation accusations? I know what you said. I said scum still do that anyway. This is not a hard concept.

This is my 2nd post you misinterpreted, remember the 1st one?

Not a misinterpretation.

T3 you said this makes sense (andre treads a50), now you say we should run up a50. Does "run up" mean to elim?

It doesn't matter A50's alignment. We should put him to E-1

It's this the game where everyone says weird stuff?

@T3- you have reads that are not tone based?

@Three- Again...there is no reason town would fake a read here. Especially a scum read. So, you should be the first one to want be elim here...and make a case.

PS: Your vote was terrible. Which is...interesting cuz I felt like SF was soft defending you the first part of the game

I...what? Why would I want to be the first one to be eliminated here? And I did make a case, it's gone on for several days now...

Why is my vote terrible? Her slot rolled scum. What's wrong with voting Salsa even though she soft defended me?

Want me elim. Typo

Nothing wrong with voting someone who soft defended you but I don't think you've mentioned Salsa before that vote. And "who do you propose to vote instead?" usually means "Who do you think we should elim" not "I'll vote whomever you say"

@Three

, this is the 1st post of mine you misinterpreted...
Thanks

Sely

!

This isn't even your post? This is blatant gaslighting.

Everybody, please vote this scum out of here, holy shit.

[Wiki]

Everybody, please vote this scum out of here, holy shit.

Is scum team gamma,gera,salsa,t3/ico/datisi is real?

[Datisi]

Having more votecounts would make it easier to follow the bandwagoners. I feel there are several wagons that build up rapidly out of nowhere.

Edit: I voted andres because I could. There's nothing saying he's town and nobody knows anything about the other players so I don't see the issue with voting and gauging reactions. I feel it would be different if I was putting him in a vulnerable position, like close to elimination or something. Do you disagree or something?

so what did you learn from the gauging reactions by voting andres? and how did you come up with those groups of people?

[geraintm]

@wiki
You are happy with your vote on me because

A) I say I find day 1 useless, like I do in every game
B) someone calls me scum and I object
C) I say I don't like your posting style

That's your case on me?

[Three]

This game is just dragging and unfun. I want something to happen.

[Wiki]

@wiki
You are happy with your vote on me because

A) I say I find day 1 useless, like I do in every game
B) someone calls me scum and I object
C) I say I don't like your posting style

That's your case on me?

Everything. Become useful or die

[Datisi]

i started reading earlier but i got busy and now it's late and reading a few pages of preflip 4-person scumteam solves (lol) is tiring so will properly bother with this game tomorrow maybe

one quick thing i wanna point out wrt salsa - you just kept repeating the same thing but adding more exclamation marks, why did it take you so long to write 1247

scum fakeclaiming cop on d1 to misyeet someone is generally ridiculous, and i *want* to say "for rolefishing" doesn't make sense as an explanation since you kept pointing out it was because they fakeclaimed a role that's not normal

in the meantime, i'm invoking the luca blight tell of "seeming to give zero shits is probably town" but "giving the appearance of giving some shits while not actually doing anything, that's scummy" (yes i know it was wrong the last time i used it, but dorsey's votes are like legit nonsense and they need proper explanation)

VOTE: dorsey

[geraintm]

@wiki
You are happy with your vote on me because

A) I say I find day 1 useless, like I do in every game
B) someone calls me scum and I object
C) I say I don't like your posting style

That's your case on me?

Everything. Become useful or die

I have zero use day 1. No one does. I'd push for no elim but no one ever likes it when I say things like that

[geraintm]

But your (strong) case for voting me is I'm not useful enough?
Thats yours case?

[Wiki]

I'd push for no elim but no one ever likes it when I say things like that

it is not right to do that when the number of players is odd, and there are too many scums and enough real days to understand some things and flipping colors are good info.

[Wiki]

But your (strong) case for voting me is I'm not useful enough?
Thats yours case?

if we are focusing on you and dorsey/whoever, we need to understand who is more town or more scum among you. Are there any reasons to consider that you are more towny than anybody?

passing the whole 1st day (12 days of real time) will never be a towny action, you have enough time to share your thoughts, you have enough info to discuss.

every player should give smth to others, thats how this game is played

people do that even when they have only 60 seconds or real time for their speech

yeah, sometime somebode skips, but this is not a good point to them and can be one of many reasons to scumread them comparing with others

if everybody does not play on day0, what this game will be look like?

[Wiki]

good night

[Wiki]

just an opinion with reasons
who is scummy to you
who is towny to you
you dont need to talk about everybody, maybe this will be only 3 colors...
you dont need to make a solid position with hard votes
just prove that you are a human who have thoughts and feelings even if they are wrong for now
dont transform your activity in arguing with me about necessity of all of this

[Wiki]

most of all i started scumreading you when i saw your date of registration 2006 year.
because your posts i quoted as for me are not fit your character well
i think a person with many years of experience would have smth to say with no problems at all
or to say smth just better, than you've already said here

[Wiki]

i dont care if you always play like that, dont repeat this argument

right now dorsey is a bit better than you, the others have too many defenders, so maybe it is time for you to talk? or to die silently.
you are aware that you have bad position in town for not doing anything, i told you.

i go sleeping

[Wiki]

Are there any reasons to consider that you are more towny than anybody?

less scummy than anybody

[Wiki]

"not scummier than anybody". not native language. well u get it

[T3]

hi
VOTE: salsa
wiki just take a 2 day break from posting and we'll all be happy

[Wiki]

Ok 1 day, i will be VERY busy on monday, the whole monday

Gera, explain your "825 times wrong" if you still think like that about that post

[Selynee]

three town
wiki more town
salsa more scun
a50 more town

Interesting. Why is three town for you?

And I felt that, if everybody's getting wagoned, why not those players? Why skip over people? It just seemed very manipulative, as if mafia are pushing wagons but not on their own people, which would make sense.

That's not much point of pressuring someone if everybody gets wagoned. Plus there was a wagon on Almost...and he ended up voting themselves. So, I don't really think the whole pressure idea works on every player either.

[Three]

Sel, do you have any reads besides me? You keep questioning why people town read me, and you've parked your vote on me for several days now without doing much else to solve. I'll post a full reads list if you do, to make it fair.

[T3]

To be clear: I'm still scumreading Three but he has done some towny stuff in the last few pages, mainly expressing annoyance with the gamestate.

[Iconeum]

i've got some 25 ish pages to read here

i'll get to that during the day

[Iconeum]

ngl, might skim most of it

[Iconeum]

So only Gamma understands with me, that Ico is mafia here?
Once again:

Townping from Selynee tho

basicly all of dwlee's posts make me go all
facepalm

i don't like you

i don't like you

Not a reason to SR someone. If anything, DW’s start is more Town indicative than not.

i don't need to fully scumread someone to vote their asses in this stage of the game, now do i

andres and wiki

i'd also townbin these 2, and by extention give some town cred to dwlee then and just trust on andres a bit.
GE's opening is fine to me.
Datisi i just *wanna* townread ya know
I have no clue on how to read T3 here

no other notable shotgun reads come to mind

VOTE: selynee
yeah

Scums: Gamma, Dwlee, Datisi.

do you have some kind of wacky post restriction that only allows you to post townreads as scumreads?

i don't even know

if you'd be nulling datisi, i could get that
if you'd be nulling gamma, i could get that
Dwlee has been playing a pattern that points to them being town, not scum. You even faked a guilty to some extent… why do you want them out?

we're all seeing wiki's nonsensical lists, but are they scummy? i don't think so?

No. There is the more logical answer, why usually this is a scummy thing.
And I so dont like, when someone is pretending stupid.

VOTE: wiki

look at these posts in chronology
1. ico forgot that selynee has townpings for him (#65), ico voted sely after saying this (#354) with no reasons. this was the moment when wiki claimed a cop, ico voted wiki, then he saw that there is no sense to do it and he voted to sely, but he forgot that he considers sely to be town for him!
2. ico forgot that most of the way wiki is town for ico, ico is voting wiki. i didnt care about it in the moment when i was a fakecop, but now after all you've said about townreading me and with no much your townreading datisi your new vote to me is suspicious very much!
3. ico didnt like dwlee much (#86, 98), then he changed his mind listening to andre very much (#108) and dwlee somehow become lock town for him (#589), dwlee is more town for him than datisi and gamma!
4. if dwlee is not a scum for ico, ico either has no srs, or his srs are: dorsey,gera,salsa,t3,three as remainder. but ico doesnt vote in this sector, he votes players who are/were townies for him!

VOTE: Iconeum
i need to change my srs, need some time
ico is mafia

andre-datisi-gamma - at least one scum is here, because all of them tred ico

Ico trs: seny,andre,wiki,gamma,datisi,a50, dwlee (firstly he sred him).
Ico's votes: datisi,a50,dwlee,wiki,sely,wiki

Ico is mafia

i can wait before everybody understands this

Btw dwlee is with ico, iforgot that ico is townie for him too and now he defends ico talking about how stupid i am, "dont listen to wiki", etc

this is an absolute shitshow of a case... i really hope i don't have to actually defend myself here?