Mini Normal 2246 - Game Over

Looker · Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 am

UNVOTE:

geraintm · Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:44 am

In post 1473, Looker wrote:No offense to them (geraintm

none taken.

geraintm · Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:45 am

In post 1468, Looker wrote:What are geraintm's reads?

i have strong opinion that anyone is more likely to be scum than anyone else.

Wiki · Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:48 am

He said he doesnt think i have an important role.
I didnt like it, started scumreading him.
He replaced.
It doesnt look good from towns perspective.

Gera's answer about 825 is just bad.

Wiki · Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:52 am

Talking about gera's meta on day1 is so nonsense

Wiki · Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:52 am

I'll be back

Andresvmb · Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:52 am

VOTE: T3

I think we need a wagon here.

Andresvmb · Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:55 am

I’m keeping my eye on DW too of course.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:56 am

Do you know how to read t3, Andres?

Andresvmb · Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:59 am

In post 1483, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you know how to read t3, Andres?

I yelled that they were Scum in a game absurdly loudly and I was correct. I’ve also correctly TR them before. But I have been wrong on them in the first game we played together (though I was right that they put out a bullshit role claim which frankly drove my suspicion).

I would say the main reason I’m voting there is because they have a complete opposite worldview to mine (though they TR me). I just think it’s a decent place to start.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:01 am

I find t3 impossible to read but fair enough

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:02 am

The one time I found them as scum I had PoE'd the game and then just started looking for anything to case them to convince people to not kill my townread

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:03 am

Anyway I think you're wrong assuming that salsa/Dorsey/Gera are all town. Could I be wrong on my poe list? I mean, maybe, but also, no.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:03 am

As in, I'd have to be more wrong than I think I am

Datisi · Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:10 am

andres, why is salsa town?
dwlee, why is salsa scum?

Datisi · Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:15 am

i think andres is very likely town unless he is aligned with exactly [people who are currently top wagons, cbf to check atm]

i recall reading a neighbour pt of the game i modded, where andres said something along the lines of being somewhat lazy as scum or losing motivation or just being disinterested

i think we're still relatively early in the game so maybe the read is a bit premature, but i have a feeling andres could somewhat easily make a push to swing to one wagon over the other if he wanted to save someone from the top wagons

starting a whole new wagon that has like one person who's so far in support of it feels way out there, unless like all of the current yeet candidates are his buddies and he's determined to singlehandedly turn the wagons over, and i'm generally skeptical of all leading wagons being scum (especially in a 4v9)

all wagons being town and scum!andres doing some 9000 iq play where he "tries" to turn it over to someone else is maybe possible, but feels like taking the path of a lot of resistance for no reason

Looker · Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:16 am

In post 1483, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you know how to read t3, Andres?

Extremely subjective IMO. Is there some standard, non-evolving method of reading a particular player that can be publicized and referenced?

In post 1487, Dwlee99 wrote:Anyway I think you're wrong assuming that salsa/Dorsey/Gera are all town. Could I be wrong on my poe list? I mean, maybe, but also, no.

Can you reference any posts? I'm trying to catch up. What make you think your reasoning is superior to Andres's?

In post 1488, Dwlee99 wrote:As in, I'd have to be more wrong than I think I am

So self-serving bias?

In post 1489, Datisi wrote:andres, why
DO YOU THINK
salsa
IS
town?
dwlee, why
DO YOU THINK
salsa
IS
scum?

Lol, this game is going to be something

Datisi · Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:17 am

i *could* argue this is andres finally rolling scum on this forum after a year and a half and being so excited he decided to make the game that much more difficult for himself, but he rn feels tonally the same to me as he did in his previous games + occam's razor etc

Datisi · Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:18 am

In post 1491, Looker wrote:
In post 1489, Datisi wrote:andres, why
DO YOU THINK
salsa
IS
town?
dwlee, why
DO YOU THINK
salsa
IS
scum?
Lol, this game is going to be something

?

Looker · Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:19 am

In post 1490, Datisi wrote:starting a whole new wagon that has like one person who's so far in support of it feels way out there, unless like all of the current yeet candidates are his buddies and he's determined to singlehandedly turn the wagons over, and i'm generally skeptical of all leading wagons being scum (especially in a 4v9)

all wagons being town and scum!andres doing some 9000 iq play where he "tries" to turn it over to someone else is maybe possible, but feels like taking the path of a lot of resistance for no reason

Why does this make you feel positively about Andres, but negatively about Dorsey?

Datisi · Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:20 am

In post 1494, Looker wrote:
In post 1490, Datisi wrote:starting a whole new wagon that has like one person who's so far in support of it feels way out there, unless like all of the current yeet candidates are his buddies and he's determined to singlehandedly turn the wagons over, and i'm generally skeptical of all leading wagons being scum (especially in a 4v9)

all wagons being town and scum!andres doing some 9000 iq play where he "tries" to turn it over to someone else is maybe possible, but feels like taking the path of a lot of resistance for no reason
Why does this make you feel positively about Andres, but negatively about Dorsey?

it just makes me think andres is town, it doesn't mean i agree with his read or that it influences my read on dorsey in any way. i explained it back when i voted them.

Looker · Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:23 am

I get that you're saying you think Andres is town because of it, but I'm asking why. I also read your vote of Dorsey, which is why I'm trying to see what the difference is. One doesn't vote a leading wagon and you vote them (Dorsey), the other doesn't and you commend them (Andres). What's the difference that I'm overlooking?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:25 am

In post 1489, Datisi wrote:andres, why is salsa town?
dwlee, why is salsa scum?

PoE + she is tonally scummy and is doing some ridiculous ate stuff but when does she not amirite

Datisi · Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:25 am

In post 1459, Selynee wrote:Like I said, I didn't really like that vote on gera cuz it felt a bit...too easy, I guess. Like yes, his answer that they are parking the vote there after a pretty obvious fake claim was weird but didn't seem to consider what would be the motivation for maf!gera there to say that in that context.

i'm pretty sure i spoke about this already? like, i know gera is absolutely not going to do shit on day one. and he's going to get shit for it, and he knows it too. the way i generally read him is that if what he's saying makes my eyes roll, he's town. that... didn't, it just made it seem like he found *Something* he can latch onto for day 1 to make sure that townies don't latch onto him as "not solving, not doing anything" etc.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:26 am

In post 1491, Looker wrote:
In post 1483, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you know how to read t3, Andres?
Extremely subjective IMO. Is there some standard, non-evolving method of reading a particular player that can be publicized and referenced?
In post 1487, Dwlee99 wrote:Anyway I think you're wrong assuming that salsa/Dorsey/Gera are all town. Could I be wrong on my poe list? I mean, maybe, but also, no.
Can you reference any posts? I'm trying to catch up. What make you think your reasoning is superior to Andres's?
In post 1488, Dwlee99 wrote:As in, I'd have to be more wrong than I think I am
So self-serving bias?
In post 1489, Datisi wrote:andres, why
DO YOU THINK
salsa
IS
town?
dwlee, why
DO YOU THINK
salsa
IS
scum?
Lol, this game is going to be something

I mean I just apply my mental tell book to people. And by tell book I mean there's a black box in my brain. But some people that black box has more trouble reading than others, in my experience.

My reasoning is better cause Andres makes too many assumptions about the game state.