Open 832: Nightless Exploder Pandemonium III - Game Over

[Almost50]

i dont care

But that's a panda not a bear



WAIT! Spotted you. 90 seconds in

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

g talk

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.14

Pavowski (1)-

numberQ

schadd_ (0)-

T3 (1)-

StrangeMatter

innocentvillager (0)-

charlemagne (0)-

cowsloveSushirolls (2)-

PookyTheMagicalBear, schadd_

PookyTheMagicalBear (5)-

T3, Clemency, Almost50, innocentvillager, charlemagne

(E-2)

Enchant (0)-

numberQ (0)-

StrangeMatter (1)-

cowsloveSushirolls

Almost50 (1)-

Pavowski

Clemency (0)-

Not Voting (1)-

Enchant

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-10-30 21:00:00)

- Oct 30th 21:00 GMT

[Almost50]

VOTE: cows

The Bieb told me to sheep the bear

[Almost50]

I actually want one of numberQ, Strange ir Pav.. naaaaybe T3. I mean, one of the vanity voters is voting their scum buddy for distancing, so yeah .. cows looks bad too. T3 looks better because I think all scum are avoiding both wagons at this point

[numberQ]

I'm avoiding both wagons because I scumread Pav and haven't been convinced by any of the other cases. And they both have ~90 posts at this point in the game so my usual strategy of ISO analysis requires more effort that I haven't felt like putting in yet

[numberQ]

Though with barely 5 days left til deadline, maybe I should just pick one of them. Hmm

[innocentvillager]

i dunno how much harder cows can scumtell for you guys

it is p funny

i dont care

he’s obvious scum and you don’t care? Weird mindset if you’re town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not going to let myself get tilted by people not listening to me

i am quite unpleasant when i do that

[T3]

i'm doing stuf

[Clemency]

im not going to let myself get tilted by people not listening to me

i am quite unpleasant when i do that

you're quite unpleasant already
i've never considered actively avoiding a player until now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you think I am mafia you should have no complaints about how I play or my demeanor.

[innocentvillager]

pooky can you give a list of some potential partners of cows

in this game you just kill the people who werent voting for him on d1 duh

okay let's just look at the list then

VC 1.08

Pavowski (1)-

numberQ

schadd_ (0)-

T3 (1)-

StrangeMatter

innocentvillager (0)-

charlemagne (0)-

cowsloveSushirolls (5)-

PookyTheMagicalBear, Pavowski, T3, Clemency, charlemagne

(E-2)

PookyTheMagicalBear (1)-

Almost50

Enchant (0)-

numberQ (2)-

innocentvillager, schadd_

StrangeMatter (1)-

cowsloveSushirolls

Almost50 (0)-

Clemency (0)-

Not Voting (1)-

Enchant

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-10-30 21:00:00)

- Oct 30th 21:00 GMT

Enchant, schadd, innocentvillager, A50, Strange, numberQ

this is the list of players who haven't voted cows

if cows is scum, we'd expect the two partners to be here right under this logic?

If Pooky is town then i don't see why Enchant is being so vitriolic about defending Pooky so it's probably not cows/Enchant/non-pooky, also Pooky is just town for the votepark

schadd seems fine and at least is defending you and now is even pushing back to cows when the wagon on you is very unstable. Again schadd/cows/non-pooky doesn't make sense.

I'm not scum, ive been p townie on dayplay i feel
A50 is clear town on dayplay

leaves like, exactly Strange and numberQ

The only like, maybe scum voting for scum!cows is clemency? but it seems too theatre so i don't really believe it

are there parts of this people disagree with

pooky any thoughts on this?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

too many words

can u like ask a 1 line question

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i'm doing stuf

i am stuff

[innocentvillager]

can someone who’s willing to read like barely 200 words give their thoughts on my reads and who cows’ partners might be (especially if you are voting/want to vote cows)

if you think my reads just suck then that’s fine let’s talk about it

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.15

Pavowski (1)-

numberQ

schadd_ (0)-

T3 (1)-

StrangeMatter

innocentvillager (0)-

charlemagne (0)-

cowsloveSushirolls (3)-

PookyTheMagicalBear, schadd_, Almost50

PookyTheMagicalBear (4)-

T3, Clemency, innocentvillager, charlemagne

Enchant (0)-

numberQ (0)-

StrangeMatter (1)-

cowsloveSushirolls

Almost50 (1)-

Pavowski

Clemency (0)-

Not Voting (1)-

Enchant

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-10-30 21:00:00)

- Oct 30th 21:00 GMT

Mod Notes

Go sign up to my Cop Killer set-up in the Open Queue

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

our mod is so bored by our inactivity he has begun advertising a new game

[T3]

what am i even doing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not voting for a steak thats for sure

[Not_Mafia]

Enchant has been prodded. He has 24 hours to post before being replaced.

[schadd_]

Spoiler: cows partner talk

Enchant, schadd, innocentvillager, A50, Strange, numberQ

this is the list of players who haven't voted cows

if cows is scum, we'd expect the two partners to be here right under this logic?

If Pooky is town then i don't see why Enchant is being so vitriolic about defending Pooky so it's probably not cows/Enchant/non-pooky, also Pooky is just town for the votepark

schadd seems fine and at least is defending you and now is even pushing back to cows when the wagon on you is very unstable. Again schadd/cows/non-pooky doesn't make sense.

I'm not scum, ive been p townie on dayplay i feel
A50 is clear town on dayplay

leaves like, exactly Strange and numberQ

The only like, maybe scum voting for scum!cows is clemency? but it seems too theatre so i don't really believe it

are there parts of this people disagree with

preface: i wanna say this sort of moment in the game opens up a lot of weird potential lines of behavior from scum. like if your partner is getting really wagoned i think the obvious archetypical response is for scum to aggressively mount other wagons/defend your partner. but i think a lot of people really hate doing that, people don't like to powerwolf on here. and you know since its the obvious thing to do its more nerve wracking. i wanna say i've seen a sort of death instinct kick in for scumteams in this sort of situation, like "well things are looking bad, how about i just bus you and hope that people get cold feet or something". i would still be disinclined to think of people on cows' wagon as partners (simply not voting your partner is safe and not nerve wracking at all really) but i would similarly be disinclined to straight up rule out a bunch of partners. moreover the T3 and charlemagne votes moved which puts them pretty comfortably outside of that rule-out range for me. naively clemency pulling up with a hard chainsaw vote on pooky seems like a thing for a cows partner to do but yeah its kind of hard to see that

enchant: having made the preface i would say that like reverse-chainsawing your partner in that way is a pretty exceptionally odd move, like accomplishing nothing else than 'pinning yourself down' to needlessly go back to my earlier idea. i kind of just don't see reasons to think of enchant as town in any case though.

schadd: see 16 (breadcrumb)

innocent v: i do think youre town but also i think it would make sense that you're pretty strongly not poe'd as a cows partner

a50 not clearly town to me

honestly have no qualms with exactly numberq and strangematter being the team LOL

see preface comment about charlemagne and t3

t3 in particular is interesting to me bc ive modded a bunch of games they were in and they seem like a sort of person that somebody else could have like a really easy snap meta read on but idk what that would be. Anyway

[schadd_]

regarding 598 / 599: i dont think anything i said is bulletproof or even all that convincing, kind of why i wanted other people to react. in particular the main anchor for me voting cows is that pooky was nominated for paragon this year which i errantly remembered at some point around when i was like doing the whole questioning situation. i think calling it "slightly pingy" is reasonable

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have no idea why i was nominated for paragon

i am really not very good at finding scum

[schadd_]

schadd are there other particular posts that you think are potentially reflective of the scum mindset you described?

one thing i did feel is: i don't think anyone like strongly townreads him or has really expressed much of an opinion about him so i think the fact that his tone and playstyle isn't really changing throughout all of that is like slightly town!indicative

looking at the iso & thinking of posts that seem to be thinking about his motives externally: 101 "the post you quoted is textbook scum" (hilariously a post charlemagne called out as scummy), 159 particularly "my top town are off the wagon" maybe as opposed to like "i tr the people off the wagon", 201 "i dont have any suspects" as opposed to something like "i'm not scumreading anyone right now" / "everyone looks like town" (theres a lot of room for this & 159 to just be meaningless semantic distinctions & i'm just recording what i'm thinking about really)

relatedly just thinking that the thoughts that are produced by him dont feel very convincing to me. i thot it was odd to put your town townread as conditional 385. spent too much time looking at the iso that it doesnt really feel productive to pull up more exmples, i guess i just dont really see reasons to think of this person as town & it felt good to think of them as mafia