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[Dwlee99]

I've only played with scum!t3 once and I think he was mislimmed every other time (except the one he was conftown). Is that history correct, t3?

[Andresvmb]

I haven't figured that out yet

T3 is someone I'll probably be able to read better later so I kinda want to shelve him if you're shelving gera

I disagree. geraintm doesn’t really have alignment indicative content. T3 certainly does. It’s very clearly not the same.

[Wiki]

I will never play with meta-arguments and I dont trust your meta-reads absolutely.
Gera is lock scum, hard vote. I dont believe his any single word. I explained why he is a scum.

Andre -1000 town points for defending gera.

[Andresvmb]

I will never play with meta-arguments and I dont trust your meta-reads absolutely.
Gera is lock scum, hard vote. I dont believe his any single word. I explained why he is a scum.

Andre -1000 town points for defending gera.

I don’t fucking care for your Town points. And frankly I don’t care where you vote. Continue to be sidelined because you can’t get along even with completely obvious Town given how obnoxious you are playing. That’s totally up to you.

[Wiki]

Normal game 2223
#1378 in iso of Gera
Maybe he didnt know the roles well, but he confessed that even reread them.
He never saw a day cop in normal, and he knew where to check it if even I know where to read this. 2006!

He gives no useful info, no opinion, only bad selfdefense and complaints.
I will not lose the game to such a scum.

I dont care about his meta. Im done with it.

[Wiki]

He quoted all normal roles and said that he read them twice.

[Wiki]

Now he decided to play like he is the only one believed in my fakeclaiming.
Yeah, Salsa was repeating after him. Both dont read...
But he is much more experienced and he confessed that read normal roles, not once, he knows them and he played many times in normal games.
You cannot argue with that.
Dont even say the word "meta".

[Wiki]

Good night

[Wiki]

And finding my claiming, it is impossible for town!gera not to see posts about not existing such a role in normal. These posts were right after that. Every townie would watch next few posts, reading this, to see the reaction. This is one of the main moments of the game, nobody skips that.

Scums: gera, andre

[Looker]

No more screen time today, want to give rest to my eyes.

UNVOTE: Dorsey

VOTE: GE

I'm tempted to vote this to even up the wagons and see who goes where (because reaction-test voting is legitimately a way to sort), but I'm still looking through.

@Looker you think T3 is possibly Scum. Can you join the wagon?

I want to apply pressure somewhere I actually SR and see what shakes out.

where is my invite?

An empty gesture to draw out information? Or is Datisi actually going to vote T3?

Spoiler: He's already admitted that he's not that useful

dorsey has given us nothing, what can i even disagree with there?

If you could rank the players in order of contribution, how would the list go?

vaguely from memory - wiki andres dwlee sel salsa ico three t3 a50 gera dorsey looker

"vaguely from memory" says the guy in [multiple ongoing games reference removed]

[Wiki]

Go in iso of Andre.
Press "find on the page" > "gera" (ctrl+f or the button in phone options)
There are much defense of Gera.
And today he wrote a lot about everybody, but without my attack to Gera it would almost nothing about Gera.

Elim Gera

Check Gamma/Datisi/Andre

[Wiki]

^would be

[Wiki]

The fact 1: Gera quoted and read normal roles in previous games, not once.
The fact 2: Gera plays in normal games for many years.

The fact 3: Gera said, that he believed in my claim and didnt read next posts after my claim, where it was said many times that it is not normal role.

[T3]

I've only played with scum!t3 once and I think he was mislimmed every other time (except the one he was conftown). Is that history correct, t3?

yes.
opossum just ended so actually twice

[T3]

What thing? You’re not invalidating anything. DW was questioning my ability to read you by asking me if I had read you accurately before. I answered that my accuracy wasn’t perfect, but that I had called you out as Scum before which means that I do have the ability at least to pinpoint whether the worldview you’re pushing makes any sense. Still, my read has little to do with that history. You haven’t invalidated shit.

i think there has been some miscommunication

[T3]

me being run up is usually town indicative

[T3]

like i think i've won most of my recent scumgames? (by recent i mean 3 months lol)

either way you're voting me for disagreeing with you but you aren't pausing to actually invalidate my reasoning

[Dwlee99]

Not the one I destroyed you in t3 <3

[Wiki]

The fact 1: Gera quoted and read normal roles in previous games, not once.
The fact 2: Gera plays in normal games for many years.

The fact 3: Gera said, that he believed in my claim and didnt read next posts after my claim, where it was said many times that it is not normal role.

[Datisi]

wiki

if there are multiple people telling you that your read of gera is nonsense and that he literally always acts like this as town too, can you stop with your bullshit spam pushing what is essentially a policy and at least pretend to be a team player? because if anyone here is getting policied, it's gonna be you.

[Wiki]

The fact 1: Gera quoted and read normal roles in previous games, not once.
The fact 2: Gera plays in normal games for many years.

The fact 3: Gera said, that he believed in my claim and didnt read next posts after my claim, where it was said many times that it is not normal role.

[Datisi]

re: andres - that's *fine*, i guess. though you haven't quite responded to what i asked. like, i agree with you that sel has gotten townier in the recent times. do you think that she was towny back when i said i scumread her? or is this just some form of a retroactive bop? because i'm gonna be decently annoyed if it is. >_>

mind talking about your three townread, then? that's a slot i have to revisit because they've been stuck in the "scummy, but will sort later" part of my brain for a while.

[Datisi]

Every time I open my mouth I get attacked anyway.

- lurks for the majority of the game
- in the rare times they post, they're throwing out nonsense reads
- ignoring any and all questions to actually explain what they're thinking
- surprised they're getting shit???

[Datisi]

looker has waaaaaay higher wim than i remember scum him having

mind elaborating? it feels to me like his contribution so far is just going with the flow and taking weak potshots, while the only game i've seen looker in (that granted, was almost two years ago) they were town and had like, takes.

i'd go check if i am right on them playing like that in that past game, but for now i don't feel like going back to the shitfest that that game was

[Datisi]

t3 is being weird and opportunistic-y and i'm still trying to figure out how to read him

@Datisi can you update this take? This is the last time you expressed a read on T3. And you’ve only asked a single question there after that as far as I can tell.

no

the only two times i read t3 correctly was when he made a meta case that involved reading three games, and when i had solved literally every other slot in the game and he was (quite literally) poe.

i think the better way to read him is with flips and via associates, because i've blundered his alignment way too hard too many times to be able to make any solid call on d1.

likewise, i don't townread him, so if you wanna start a push there, by all means i won't stand in your way, it might be useful info later after all. but i'm far from convined.

and to answer looker's shade i saw, no, i wasn't planning on voting t3 when i made that post.