Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Harley Quinn]

because ...

Because I know you’re wrong on me and you’ve got toog in the same category, so your positioning on gypyx makes them more likely to be a buddy.

[skitter30]

that doesn't make any sense

[Taly]

because ...

There's also a moment where she even mentions choosing crosses so quickly that scum cannot respond effectively, and that's a ballsy POV from scum that does not align with Ydra's otherwise relaxed demeanor.

in the same post she literally said scum-her had suggested something similar in a differnet game

This adds to my point, I feel. Why would scum admit such?

[petapan]

Spoiler:

it was literally 24 hours realtime and i can't really just slam the brakes right away although i did come around eventually


i'm well aware that he's often not nuanced but it seemed at the time that there was little thought behind what he was saying and his game was mostly shading a ton of people which i felt was decently scummy (and, like, a brief refresher on the games i had played against him shows he

is

capable of more advanced thoughts than "thing bad" "thing good"). in hindsight i was probably collapsing context on him by just going through his iso for his attacks on people and not the trajectory

and when you say i was "trying to find things that looked bad", that's...just what scumhunting is? i go through what people say and look for things i find suspicious. if you're trying to say i was forcing a case, well, the problem is that i'm still not sure i necessarily understand what you think i was

missing

there - you can say the stuff i was pushing isn't AI but that doesn't really mean i should have been finding him towny as you seem to have implied

i'm not talking about just that 24 hour timespan, you started pushing it a while prior (~ the begining of the dunn event iirc? i don't remember exactly)

also maybe i phrased it badly, but 'trying to find things that looked bad' != scumhunting, or at least, that's not what i meant by it. i meant that it looked to me like you were looking at cakez' iso and reading it in the worst possible light, and usign that to push him, when there were other, more charitable, ways to read what he was doing that you chose to ignore
i also remember pointing out that you were pushing cakez for this specifically when there were like 3 other people doing the exact same thing (dwlee, gypyx, toog iirc), so it looked like you were picking and choosing who to push for that

like i said before it basically looked to me like you thought you had found osmething to push, and were just trying to take it as far as you could, when those weren't real/significant/ai reasons to scumread him

and his reaction to the big case you wrote was townie, yeah

i see what you're saying here at least

mainly just acknowledging this because i don't think i can really take this conversation any further at this time, it's not going to help my read on you, i've progressed a fair bit since then so if you're town we have to look at other things

[skitter30]

sorry the because was to HQ, not you @taly

i'm saying that you can't townread her for 'that being too ballsy for scum-her to suggest' when we have an example of scum-her doing exactly that
and i think it's well in her range to mention that too

(to be clear i'm not saying i scumread her for it or that she is scum because of this, i'm saying this is a silly reason to townread her)

[skitter30]

i see what you're saying here at least

mainly just acknowledging this because i don't think i can really take this conversation any further at this time, it's not going to help my read on you, i've progressed a fair bit since then so if you're town we have to look at other things

fair enuf. i feel like i've moved passed this too and this isn't helpign me read u, was just picking up the convo cuz that's what u wanted to talk about

[Taly]

sorry the because was to HQ, not you @taly

i'm saying that you can't townread her for 'that being too ballsy for scum-her to suggest' when we have an example of scum-her doing exactly that
and i think it's well in her range to mention that too

(to be clear i'm not saying i scumread her for it or that she is scum because of this, i'm saying this is a silly reason to townread her)

So you're familiar with

Ydra

, what's your read on them?

[Gamma Emerald]

Still unsure of my order.

I know I want

ydra/peta/gammagooey

to cross later than sooner but if we go with

Toog's

plan, then I end up with less than 4 being uncrowded.

Mmm.

the math on this seems wrong
(me, toog, dwlee, cakez) + (ydra, peta, ggy) + you = 8 people crossing, leaving (ulya, skitts, HQ, gypyx)
is there anyone in that last group you TR? If not I'm gonna mark those down as the ones you don't want to cross so I can have an entry from you in my spreadsheet I'm using to math out the consensus of who gets left out

[skitter30]

(to be clear i'm not saying i scumread her for it or that she is scum because of this, i'm saying this is a silly reason to townread her)

fwiw i do think her overall approach to the event + overall demeanor when the thread opened this phase was very townie

pedit ^
also still think her reaction to unwnd was townie, i can elaborate but i think we've had a back and forth on this point at least 3 separate times

[Harley Quinn]

that doesn't make any sense

Why doesn’t it? Your read on gypyx is more hedgey than toog.

[petapan]

i see what you're saying here at least

mainly just acknowledging this because i don't think i can really take this conversation any further at this time, it's not going to help my read on you, i've progressed a fair bit since then so if you're town we have to look at other things

fair enuf. i feel like i've moved passed this too and this isn't helpign me read u, was just picking up the convo cuz that's what u wanted to talk about

yeah i know i just wanted to get a little more from you because your explanation for all the stuff you were suspecting me for was so basic, and i couldn't think of anything else to talk about that didn't involve making you do legwork, so i asked hoping there'd be an elaboration that'd give me a better sense of the thought process

[skitter30]

'you being in the same category as toog' + 'me reading town-you wrong' != toog-town

[Harley Quinn]

'you being in the same category as toog' + 'me reading town-you wrong' != toog-town

that doesn't make any sense

Why doesn’t it? Your read on gypyx is more hedgey than toog.

[Ydrasse]

im a fantastic scum player im rnning laps around everyone as we speak im openwolfing telling everyone to speed play

awoo

[petapan]

im a fantastic scum player im rnning laps around everyone as we speak im openwolfing telling everyone to speed play

awoo

i believe you

[skitter30]

yeah i know i just wanted to get a little more from you because your explanation for all the stuff you were suspecting me for was so basic, and i couldn't think of anything else to talk about that didn't involve making you do legwork, so i asked hoping there'd be an elaboration that'd give me a better sense of the thought process

fair enuf

[Harley Quinn]

help harley and gamma are the only ppl i trust with my life and people wanna kill one of them ahhhhhhh

Scum!Ydra never makes this post.

[skitter30]

what does the positioning of gypyx have to do with toog

[skitter30]

im a fantastic scum player im rnning laps around everyone as we speak im openwolfing telling everyone to speed play

awoo

awoooooooooo

[Ydrasse]

im a fantastic scum player im rnning laps around everyone as we speak im openwolfing telling everyone to speed play

awoo

i believe you

theyre not gonna believe you

i win this one petapan and you cant stop me

[Ydrasse]

im a fantastic scum player im rnning laps around everyone as we speak im openwolfing telling everyone to speed play

awoo

awoooooooooo

Youve learned

[skitter30]

:)

[Gamma Emerald]

scummish: Toog, Saber, Ydrasse
fight me scummo: Skitter

@gammagooey

are you still thinking this?

[Harley Quinn]

what does the positioning of gypyx have to do with toog

'you being in the same category as toog' + 'me reading town-you wrong' != toog-town

that doesn't make any sense

Why doesn’t it? Your read on gypyx is more hedgey than toog.

Are you not reading my post?

[skitter30]

i am but there's something missing in ur logic there that i'm not getting