Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)

[Cephrir]

767 makes cakez look good i think, but i haven't actually done the research to figure out why roden gets mad at cakez here rather than anyone else who's voting him

can someone who suspects IZ convince me that 786 & 815 can come from a partner

roden posting that the scumteam is in a really good spot makes me think they weren't

VOTE: dwlee
dead game, let's see if an E-1 will fix that

-Gamma

maybe don't try to take so much credit for the roden elim eh?

Scum could definitely use it though? Makes it easier to push through mislims

it means a couple pocket scumreads can turn into an elim on you, the risk/reward seems incredibly bad

VOTE: dwlee ok compromising with gamma, and if others disagree with me maybe the mod did too

-infinity

hmmm

Dwlee is L-1
should I hammer? hm
p-edit: or Roden can do it too ig

Koba why won't you intersect our poes after that large normal?

the fact that this is how they reacted to being L-1ed definitely makes me want to hammer

hmmmmmmmmm

ok i forgot that roden's slip makes dwlee look really good. i think they're just town.

i don't think i'm going to get much of value out of how the wagon developed after the slip. what happened before is infinitely more interesting.

pedit: i must not have gone back far enough to see you pushing roden. i'll do that.

[Cephrir]

roden's zyla read is at nonexistent on page 20 and gets to a weak lean scum by 30ish. i think that's partnery

999 attempting a flashwagon on roden very explicitly and him promptly beetlejuicing seems not S/S, but then why does roden get mad at cakez and not 999?

tbh i liked 125, and didn't hate roden's reaction to the meta thing; i like a zyla vote better but i'll see what gamma says

@zyla actions are one thing but dunn is confirmed town unless he's doing a gambit with amy, do you think that's likely?

-infinity

ah yes, sick roden push. i can't really argue with some of their reasons for townreading him though since i agreed at the time

ok like full honesty i want to switch to roden 100% but like im afraid of people then flipping it as me trying to "save a partner" [zyla] and then like end up mislimming today and then tomorrow is even worse and we snowball into a loss - so i'm being careful trying to make sure we can cooperate - but if people are willing to listen and be convinced, I'd like to shine light on Roden here right now.

I don't object to bringing Roden into the light but I think unless I actually sense something off from him I won't be down to push there for real

-Gamma

??? when are we going to get to the push... is it after the slip? i don't give a fuck if so

I don't really have much to say right now either
Is anyone against ending the day early?

Because I'm not against an IZ elim if no one has reason to keep the day going longer

physically painful... oh, i see i made this exact post 4 posts later nice

what are the chances cakez posts 596 if he's scum with zyla and roden. i think that makes him a little more likely with IZ if anyone but maybe i'm underthinking it

finding zyla's townslip less compelling in retrospect

this is exactly the kind of conclusion i hate other people for coming to/thinking they're so smart they have it all sorted out, but i kind of think it's 1 of 999/cakez because roden's differential treatment of them is so weird, and 1 of zyla/IZ because they're both scummy on their own merits. i guess it could be zyla and IZ, but that feels arrogant

responses to these posts should help me choose between IZ and zyla

[SCP 999]

999, you were townreading galron d2, what happened?

He was shifted into my poe in the latter half
dwlee being cleared basically shifted him to the front too

also pls theres no way i am scum with roden- thats just not a plan that works out at all - look at the slots who tried to push back

[Infinity Zero]

if you look at our iso it would've been difficult to justify staying off him as the deciding vote

The fact that you're aware of this is slightly alarming

i remembered a) my read on roden b) gamma's read on roden and inferred this

i don't understand why we're supposed to give scum free info when there's a chance we don't get eliminated.

Is there a distinction between this and any other situation where a claim is asked for?

yes, we weren't ever at e-1 right?

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

i love how we were so towny and then we hammered roden and now we're scum for defending roden.

-infinity

To elaborate: this feels like scum mad that their intentional efforts to get towncred didnt pay off

i'm not even asking for a townread though? i'm asking why koba suddenly decided we're scum

-infinity

[SirCakez]

cakez/dwlee what are your current reads on each other

I have a secret reason to TR dwlee but it's not that strong

[SirCakez]

if you look at our iso it would've been difficult to justify staying off him as the deciding vote

The fact that you're aware of this is slightly alarming

Ya actually this is votable

VOTE: infinity

[SirCakez]

IZ/Zyla is it that easy?

[SCP 999]

large part of me wants to say zyla still townslipped
The other part says POE is closing in around here
The mech info i just learned points to 1 other person but thats only if infinity were to flip town

[Infinity Zero]

before you clowns go too far with this I will declare I did crumb in the old thread somewhere

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

koba still hasn't answered how their read on us changed

-infinity

[SirCakez]

i am paranoid I'm being double snowed and the team is something stupid like Koba/Cephrir

[SCP 999]

koba still hasn't answered how their read on us changed

-infinity

then i suggest you read the thread

[Infinity Zero]

239 doesn't count

[SCP 999]

infinity im at the point where its either you or LLD slot + one more(if its you, then zyla, if LLD slot, then sircakez)

[SCP 999]

so i'd appreciate if you explain - without resorting to mechs - who is a good alternative to LLD/T3 slot if you think they are town by:
explaining why T3/LLD is town
and explaining why another person is not town


this was the mech thing i mentioned that i noticed that unclears the slot - however - one thing is curious that i may reclear LLDslot off of but yeha.

[Cephrir]

What mech thing?

[Infinity Zero]

infinity im at the point where its either you or LLD slot + one more(if its you, then zyla, if LLD slot, then sircakez)

t3's catchup was almost locktown level even if you don't count the vig claim

i don't really see why you're clearing ceph or cakez

i'm not at all confident that you're town either

-infinity

[SirCakez]

hasn't LLD slot been conftown like all game

[SCP 999]

we have conflicting mechs regarding the doc save

either scum have a ninja *or* they did not actually target dunns and LLD led kill onto strangematter

because:

dunn did NOT claim having had seen anyone visit them OTHER than amph who is flipped doc.

[Infinity Zero]

yeah scum probably just have a ninja, i wouldn't be surprised in the role madness game

the other option is that there's a town bp unclaimed but that isn't super likely.

-infinity

[Cephrir]

we have conflicting mechs regarding the doc save

either scum have a ninja *or* they did not actually target dunns and LLD led kill onto strangematter

because:

dunn did NOT claim having had seen anyone visit them OTHER than amph who is flipped doc.

i feel like there are more likely explanations for the missing kill than LLD-scum, such as amph using more than one save which it sounded like they could i think?

[Infinity Zero]

You may target multiple players as long as you have enough pills to do so.

[T3]

i am paranoid I'm being double snowed and the team is something stupid like Koba/Cephrir

SAME

[T3]

hasn't LLD slot been conftown like all game

yes