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Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:52 pm

Vote: Galron

Galron · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:53 pm

COF voted Bowser then unvoted for I'm not sure why then said they were going to read some ISOs and that's it. That last thing was a day and a half ago.

Galron · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:53 pm

In post 450, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Galron

Hi again.

Galron · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:55 pm

In post 432, Galron wrote:
In post 409, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Galron
Hey there.

In post 452, Galron wrote:
In post 450, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Galron
Hi again.

Icebox · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:02 pm

Pretty sure they're not going to engage with you unless LLD gets frustrated.

-Bell

DeasVail · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:19 pm

In post 441, Bowser Jr. wrote:
In post 436, DeasVail wrote:I also think that my time of suspecting Bowser Jr. has come to an end.

UNVOTE: Bowser Jr.
Can you elaborate here? Are you now townreading us, and if so, what changed your mind?

You've gone from painting almost everything I've posted as scummy to dropping it suddenly and unceremoniously.

~Spiffy

I looked at the painting and it made me feel sad.
I therefore decided the artwork was bad.

Pavowski · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:20 pm

In post 445, Galron wrote:
In post 440, Pavowski wrote:Wheme wagon is stale. CoF wagon is hot. Nothing particularly towny in their ISO.

VOTE: CoF or wow me with some dank reads.

Also, you should vote somewhere.
Sry I'm not really caught up if I missed it, but are you town reading Wheme?

No but the enthusiasm for that wagon has dwindled and some people seem to be townreading him based on meta. I won't go that far but am happy to pressure elsewhere.

Pavowski · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:24 pm

This is my first game with LLD, is this her play style or is there something mechanical happening there?

Pavowski · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:32 pm

In post 444, Galron wrote:why not

VOTE: cof

Galron wrote:
In post 432, Galron wrote:
In post 409, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Galron
Hey there.

In post 452, Galron wrote:
In post 450, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Galron
Hi again.

I do not love these posts

I especially don't love them if we end up flipping CoF and hit green

But I might unlove them less if anybody can shed light on LLD for me

Icebox · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:43 pm

In post 457, Pavowski wrote:This is my first game with LLD, is this her play style or is there something mechanical happening there?

Best that LLD explains it herself.
But I don't believe it's mechanical.

-Bell

Galron · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:49 pm

LLD hasn't made a post of substance yet. It's all been naked votes. If she's got a case to be made, she'll make it surely.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:53 pm

In post 460, Galron wrote:LLD hasn't made a post of substance yet. It's all been naked votes. If she's got a case to be made, she'll make it surely.

Cases are scummy.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:54 pm

In post 460, Galron wrote:LLD hasn't made a post of substance yet. It's all been naked votes. If she's got a case to be made, she'll make it surely.

Vote: Galron

Galron · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:00 pm

In post 461, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 460, Galron wrote:LLD hasn't made a post of substance yet. It's all been naked votes. If she's got a case to be made, she'll make it surely.
Cases are scummy.

As long as you have a reason.

Pavowski · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:02 pm

In post 463, Galron wrote:
In post 461, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 460, Galron wrote:LLD hasn't made a post of substance yet. It's all been naked votes. If she's got a case to be made, she'll make it surely.
Cases are scummy.
As long as you have a reason.

This interaction is not getting any less weird for me

ISO · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:03 pm

cases may be scummy (debatable imo), but reasons aren't!

444 did make me want to move my vote anywhere else, though.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:12 pm

In post 435, Lukewarm wrote:Side note for Guilty Lion, what in 255 do you think deserved my response? There is still no read on the slot coming from them. Just "I am conflcted" with out any of the reasons that make them conflicted - what made them think it could be town, what makes them think they could be scum? Idk, I just know that they are conflicted. And its like, here I was talking about trying to sort them, they think my reasons are bad, but there was still no hint of "well did you consider X reason to think that they could be [town/scum]"

I think you're framing things here like you wanted DV to give an updated read with deeper reasoning on the marci slot, but I see DV's response as more of a challenge to you as to why DV needs to be townreading marci in order to critique your reasons to scumread her. This bit specifically:

In post 255, DeasVail wrote:I don't townread the slot, but I don't need to townread the slot to disagree with your reasons for scumreading them

Do you disagree with this? Did this help you understand why town!DV might write a post like 209? You didn't respond to it and still haven't even when breaking down this post. You say you didn't feel DV was trying to sort you, but it looks quite a lot to me like he was.

I also think you're exaggerating the disconnect between what you refer to as "Steps 1,2,3". I think both the original "I agree with LLD" and the Step 1 post 344 read like attempts at humor, while there's a consistent train of thought underneath that he did feel he understood LLD about 252.

idk if we're interpreting his tone differently or you just don't seem to grok an attitude of "I think I understand why this player scumreads this post without them explicitly saying it" (something I feel pretty often when I play), but I just don't see your case as all that indicative. It's not hard at all to imagine those posts coming from town, I'm not sure if you genuinely can't or aren't trying to.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:17 pm

Galron, why did you case COF in 448 after you had already voted them? Woosh-gate in particular was already discussed by several players in thread.

It feels kinda performative, like regardless of your alignment you decided to vote COF first without thinking, but 448 rings as if you want to make sure the rest of us know you are evaluating their slot. Gives me "tell" instead of "show" vibes

GuiltyLion · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:27 pm

quick hot take reads update

Ceph and LLD are becoming decent D1 townreads for me, not that there's been much if any discussion on wagoning them but I don't think I'd like to elim either currently.

OTH too I think I'm coming around on.

TA I don't understand his/her Skybird townread but feels generally townish (hey look Luke it's me disagreeing with a read without scumreading him/her

)

Wisdom and Juliet I don't have any reasons to scumread but more engagement from them would definitely help.

wagons I'm fine with right now is like {COF, Skybird, Galron, Lukewarm}, but I'm really waffley on Luke and Galron. Skybird's definitely flying under the radar too much at this point unless she starts coming in with some fire takes and reads

I need to look through that game Luke sent me, I think I did notice in skimming it that COF missed somebody's claim so TBD on if it changes my mind at all when I have time to do a proper deep dive, which is not now unfortunately

Galron · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:05 pm

In post 467, GuiltyLion wrote:Galron, why did you case COF in 448 after you had already voted them? Woosh-gate in particular was already discussed by several players in thread.

It feels kinda performative, like regardless of your alignment you decided to vote COF first without thinking, but 448 rings as if you want to make sure the rest of us know you are evaluating their slot. Gives me "tell" instead of "show" vibes

GL, I'm just tired of this day. COF was picking up votes for a reason. I wanted to see why.

Child of Fairies · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:09 pm

Reread the isos for the people initially on the wheme wagon and I can't shake the feeling that it wasn't an entirely town push. The whole thing felt pretty... convenient? No real effort to sort, just piling votes on a guy. None of the people on the wagon really interact with him much, and that just kinda rubs me the wrong way.

VOTE: Off the Hook

Let's start here. Most of the iso is fluff from either player, with the only real action being backing an early vote on Galiron without voting it and then voting Wheme with zero explanation whatsoever. Post-wheme they make giant looking posts with pretty much no original content, just mainly quoting things and going agree/disagree. They only ever engage with Wheme once, and it wasn't even related to the wagon on them, and yet while still voting wheme they say they like a post that calls out the wheme wagon and the people on it for being lazy? The skybird vote is similarly completely out of nowhere.

To me it feels like they're trying to appear active and contributing without saying much of anything, and I don't like that.

ISO · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:12 pm

what has happened that's got you tired, galron?

ISO · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:13 pm

In post 470, Child of Fairies wrote:Reread the isos for the people initially on the wheme wagon and I can't shake the feeling that it wasn't an entirely town push. The whole thing felt pretty... convenient? No real effort to sort, just piling votes on a guy. None of the people on the wagon really interact with him much, and that just kinda rubs me the wrong way.

Galron · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:15 pm

In post 471, Cephrir wrote:what has happened that's got you tired, galron?

Prolly unfair but RL is killing me right now and I can't follow the thread properly. And the last couple of games I've been in I've been either tunneled or misread that I'm just over it.

Galron · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:15 pm

I think it started with radio buzz. It's been like I've been speaking adifferent language since.