In post 2114, Three wrote:Somebody mentioned that Wiki has voted and accused the entire player list of being scum. Is it possible Wiki is just pushing everyone with the intention of trying to get town to claim PRs to save themselves?
does that actually happen though?
Are you asking if it's possible?
In post 2118, Wiki wrote:Three if sely,datisi,salsa and me are all townies (and maybe dorsey) you've played only against townies in this game. You'd better to be a scum for your reputation.
You hard accused more than four players. Wtf are you talking about?
In post 2119, Wiki wrote:T3 tries to elim you with all cost.
I scumread him.
And you are saying about my open wolfing.
How should I understand this? As protection of t3 obviously. And you are thinking about dam traitor sh from nowhere in your head with no any healthy logic.
In post 2128, T3 wrote:like does scum really play that fast and loose
They absolutely can. Just because it doesn't usually happen doesn't mean it can't happen. If you ever rule out a possibility for scum, then they'll always be able to do whatever they want and get away with it if you just hand wave it away as "scum doesn't ever do that".
Do you see a town motivation for signaling to the scum team what to prepare for wrt PR night actions? Do you see a town motivation for accusing the entire player list of being scum and then claiming PR unprovoked?
In post 1640, Datisi wrote:it's fair, dorsey's vote feels gross enough to poison the whole well
what's your shotgun reads looking like right now? i have class in about 3 minutes, but i do wanna solve with you a bit, if only our schedules were lining up >_>
datisi/andres/wiki/dwlee town
gera/sely/three/salsa/a50 exist. Wiki's pressure on gera make me wanna defend gera, but he's null. The others i could probably make a case for either allignment if i wanted to.
T3 i really don't like how he's been poking me without really engaging me, but that's like the full extent of suspicion i have there
i really don't like lookers entry
and i didn't like GE before
Dorsey is so bleh and their T3 vote is very opportunistic i feel - now drawing the 'boohoo look at me everyone's mad at me' card is really unimpressive
i'd love a good wagon on either dorsey or looker here
You come in with a huge wall that does absolutely nothing but clog the game. You don't make any reads from it. No conclusions, Nothing. 'Personal notes'. Yeah, you don't make this *in the game*
you keep making posts that do nothing. Ok, maybe ur catching up but still. The posts you choose to comment on advance nothing. Not even for yourself. A lot of time spent on calling out votes from player x on player y. No conclusions, no cases, no reads. Just empty posts.
By the time you start talking about my slot, it's in such an unbelievable condescending way that I immediately lost my interest in you. I didn't like your slot to begin with.
Rereading your ISO, i don't think you've formed 2 half-assed reads and I don't think you really care about them
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
In post 2141, Looker wrote:I did. I thought you were dodging my questions.
Yes; despite having a week less than everyone else, I do have opinions of the players.
Are you saying that condescension is your turn-off? Are you saying a lack of reads is scummy?
dodging questions and 'riding prodging range until deadline' are 2 completely different things and you know that
i'm saying that the volume you posted and corresponding lack of reads/conclusions/opinions/content is scummy yeah
the way you are treating for example my slot just triggers me a bit - whatever
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
In post 2124, Three wrote:Did you forget this is a 4-scum 13-player set up?
You wont find a traitor on day 1 + we are not sure about its existence. I saw a game, where people talk much about a traitor, they were looking for him, and there was no traitor at all. It was chaos because of this among townies. So while u dont have enough info, just dont think about it so much. And it is more difficult to find sooo traitor, than team mafia.
We'd better to elim t3 today.
He has many moments that are difficult or impossible to understand. You cannot understand why he thinks someone is town/scum in different moments. And it is difficult to answer the questions "who and when was a scum for him?". I brought examples when he is doing some strange things, not knowing where to vote and who is more suspicious for him. Especially in the moments when he was scumreading and townreading salsa and a50 in the same moments, with no logic to vote them or to defend them. Now he is scumreading Three and Dorsey, there can be some bussing.
He is also rather careful for a townie, though he tries to show braveness.
People who scumread T3 right now can be the towniest players here: wiki,andre,ico,sely and maybe maybe maybe a50.
Three is very suspicious for not looking at T3 now, focusing on other targets (datisi,dorsey,salsa,looker,wiki). Though i have feeling that he can be just a very bad player, not sure about it.
Dwlee is very suspicious for defending T3. I dont care u think Dwlee is townie for no reasons at all. He gave nothing useful. His position (gera,salsa...dorsey...) can be mostly wrong.
Eliminating T3, we can consider Dwlee is scum if T3 flips red.
The same story with looker: looker was locktown for Dwlee, he forgot about this.
We wont elim Ico/Datisi because they are town to each other, we need to give them some time. Datisi is also town for some other people.
We wont elim looker, because it is possible that gamma had the best townlist on d1 and some people think he is town.
We wont elim Salsa, because last words of Gamma were not to elim Salsa today. And some suspicious persons want to elim her very much: t3,dwlee,gera,three...
We obviously wont elim Dwlee because he is town for most of you.
We have the remainder to be elimed today: t3,gera,three,dorsey,a50.
Im not sure about dorsey, but he looks like solo player with no team. A50 is defended by many people with no reasons, ok. Gera did some things scums maybe wouldnt do, but he has huge experience comparing with Dorsey...
This is not a bad idea to decide who to elim between T3 and Three. I would say Three looks a bit better, but he doesnt care t3 tries to elim him, thats why Three is suspicious af too. Maybe they are together.
Go elim T3 or Three today. Put both of them on e1. It is more interesting than eliming dorsey-gera, where we've got no interesting info because it is easy to bus with such partners.
Not very solid list (scumreads are in brackets; some interesting townreads are also added on the right):
Wiki, (t3,gera,dwlee...)
Andre, (t3...)
Ico, (t3,three,dorsey,looker). Town Datisi,Dwlee.
Sely, (t3...). Town Looker.
Salsa, (three,dorsey,wiki,looker). Town Dwlee,Datisi.
GammaLooker, (gera? datisi...). Town Salsa?
Datisi, (three... a50? dorsey?). Town Ico,Dwlee.
a50, (gera,dorsey,wiki,t3)
Three, (datisi,dorsey,salsa,looker)
Dorsey, (datisi)
Dwlee, (gera,salsa...dorsey...)
Gera, (salsa,wiki?)
T3. (Three, dorsey... salsa?no? A50?no!).
There can be mistakes, because im doing it on a phone
