In post 1863, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: T3
maybe this is the spicey wagon this game needs
ico pls
why not t3-t
why is three town
VOTE: three
sure
works as well
ico wants to vote a50 and t3
datisi doesnt allowed ico to do that
ico listens to datisi and votes with him to three
why t3 is so town for datisi - there is no explanation
In post 2141, Looker wrote:I did. I thought you were dodging my questions.
Yes; despite having a week less than everyone else, I do have opinions of the players.
Are you saying that condescension is your turn-off? Are you saying a lack of reads is scummy?
dodging questions and 'riding prodging range until deadline' are 2 completely different things and you know that
i'm saying that the volume you posted and corresponding lack of reads/conclusions/opinions/content is scummy yeah
the way you are treating for example my slot just triggers me a bit - whatever
In post 2154, Three wrote:I don't know what E-x I'm at but whatever, I'm about to go to bed and somebody might quick hammer before I wake up. I'm VT. Now stop throwing and vote actual scum. If you think scum plays the way I have i.e. not giving a shit about how I'm perceived and pressuring commonly town read players, you might want to reconsider what you think scumminess actually looks like.
I want to vote within my scum reads + Wiki. Geraintm and T3 are useless flips since they have low content and low progression respectively. If either are scum then cool, but I don't fucking know that, and you're kidding yourself if you think either of them have made themselves readable enough to figure that out today.
there's like 3 or whatever votes on you...
I just counted, I think I'm at E-2 and my slot is being considered by other players as well. There is a good chance I'm put at E-1 or accidentally quick hammered before I even wake up at the rate we're going, especially since we never managed to get a real wagon going all of Day 1.
i don't think there's been a single wagon at more then 3 votes for the entire day so yeah
Are you saying that you would've drawn a different conclusion from that information? Because, when I presented it to you in conversation, all you said was "okay" and stopped talking. 1533
here's the bad faith tone again... i'm saying that going "wow, you were on a lot of wagons, therefore you're scum" is an extremely Bad And Simplistic take that's more likely to come from scum than someone who's actually solving the game. i'm not claiming i would've townread myself because of it.
? Looking at the post, it doesn't look like I was saying that at all. It looks like I was asking you why you wagoned that way and why you were so dismissive of the speculation, especially if "patterns and inconsistencies are a way of finding scum".
really? the "wow, you were on almost every leading wagon so far" isn't supposed to be carrying any negative connotations?
Is your assertion that I am...
Accusing you of something you are doing?
Accusing you of something you are not doing?
If you...
are
NOT
doing it: Can't you just show that you're not doing it?
ARE
doing it: Can't you show that what you're doing benefits town if you're town?
I don't understand the "negative connotations" and "bad faith" arguments if what I'm referring to is factual.
is actually based on meta but not only meta. The way he goes with
Wiki
&
Three
, it clearly takes lots of attention which no scum want in D1 in general basis. Though I don’t know his scum meta but as an experienced player, do you think scum!
Datisi
is this much sloppy? Plus, his sorting style is kind of like that, he will keep asking the same question until his satisfaction (which is annoying tbh ).
But I'll look onto your case later, busy rn (this game is giving me headache also).
Did you draw any conclusions from this action that you can share with the thread?
Actually I didn’t do anything about it, not interested anymore now.
In post 1776, Datisi wrote:wiki, can you stop pretending like you're a fucking moron who learned about the game of mafia yesterday
you were giving me shit earlier for "not having any progression on you and never considering you scum" (despite that being untrue!) and now you're pretending like i just randomly called dorsey scum after calling them town with no reasoning or explanation
get your head out of your own fucking ass because you're showing time and time again you don't know shit about this game
In post 1780, Datisi wrote:i'm getting heated because a good part of the game is not playing, so if they're town the game is unnecessarily harder, wiki is being denser than a neutron star and refusing to listen to *anything reasonable* someone else is saying, and i'm seeing so much pussyfooting around my slot but almost nobody is willing to actually go and talk to me or argue
like how tf am i supposed to not get pissed at this game?
What's the difference between heated and flail?
In your opinion? Or do you feel it can even be determined?
i don't know, and why is this relevant?
I was trying to see if there was a way to differentiate between being upset because you hate a player versus being frustrated as caught scum.
So this was fun, but I think I might be done for a while, lol. I feel it's getting kind of repetitive.
would like to, but realistically he's gonna claim pr and we're probably gonna just go back to the claimed vt (also i obviously scumread three more) and if he's town, it's better to not force a claim out
also, wiki, that came after you voted me, and it still doesn't explain shit about what you find scummy about me, it's just a halfassed partner read that means nothing (:
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 2154, Three wrote:I don't know what E-x I'm at but whatever, I'm about to go to bed and somebody might quick hammer before I wake up. I'm VT. Now stop throwing and vote actual scum. If you think scum plays the way I have i.e. not giving a shit about how I'm perceived and pressuring commonly town read players, you might want to reconsider what you think scumminess actually looks like.
I want to vote within my scum reads + Wiki. Geraintm and T3 are useless flips since they have low content and low progression respectively. If either are scum then cool, but I don't fucking know that, and you're kidding yourself if you think either of them have made themselves readable enough to figure that out today.
He is sleeping, Ico is on vla, so either make it faster. or wait until he woke up if you want. It is better for night to be on weekends.
Are you saying that you would've drawn a different conclusion from that information? Because, when I presented it to you in conversation, all you said was "okay" and stopped talking. 1533
here's the bad faith tone again... i'm saying that going "wow, you were on a lot of wagons, therefore you're scum" is an extremely Bad And Simplistic take that's more likely to come from scum than someone who's actually solving the game. i'm not claiming i would've townread myself because of it.
? Looking at the post, it doesn't look like I was saying that at all. It looks like I was asking you why you wagoned that way and why you were so dismissive of the speculation, especially if "patterns and inconsistencies are a way of finding scum".
really? the "wow, you were on almost every leading wagon so far" isn't supposed to be carrying any negative connotations?
Is your assertion that I am...
Accusing you of something you are doing?
Accusing you of something you are not doing?
If you...
are
NOT
doing it: Can't you just show that you're not doing it?
ARE
doing it: Can't you show that what you're doing benefits town if you're town?
I don't understand the "negative connotations" and "bad faith" arguments if what I'm referring to is factual.
yes, i was obviously on those wagons. framing it the way you did, it's showing off the fact i was on the wagons and it's leaving it open for others to draw the most simplistic conclusion from it, that being on a lot of wagons bad because trying to score misyeet. it's not looking at the possibility of me voting those players because i wanted to pressure or read them, it's just stating facts without context hoping i get scumread for them.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
@Datisi: It's a matter of principle now. If I could report him for spamming I would, but unfortunately that's a grey area as no explicit rule exists against posting a million times an hour.
In post 2303, Datisi wrote:also, wiki, that came after you voted me, and it still doesn't explain shit about what you find scummy about me, it's just a halfassed partner read that means nothing (:
i just found most of townies and i think three is among them. so if he flips green, you are red, im pretty sure.
almost the same story with t3. when he flips red, you are red too.
you are almost the only one who forced 1 and protected 2
In post 2306, Almost50 wrote:@Datisi: It's a matter of principle now. If I could report him for spamming I would, but unfortunately that's a grey area as no explicit rule exists against posting a million times an hour.
In post 2162, Iconeum wrote:your level of confidence is too damn high and unnatural
Their entire play today I have found unhelpful. No one should be spouting so many opinions at such high levels of confidence and berating everyone for not agreeing and directing how town should play.
If they are town, then the consequences of them being wrong would be disastrous. If they are scum, the same.
So I have tried to ignore them as best I can.
I am assuming they are just weird town, straight up.scum I don't think would play like this
In post 2162, Iconeum wrote:your level of confidence is too damn high and unnatural
Their entire play today I have found unhelpful. No one should be spouting so many opinions at such high levels of confidence and berating everyone for not agreeing and directing how town should play.
If they are town, then the consequences of them being wrong would be disastrous. If they are scum, the same.
So I have tried to ignore them as best I can.
I am assuming they are just weird town, straight up.scum I don't think would play like this
you didnt understand that ico in this quote understood my quote not right. i explained it to her after that. read.
In post 2162, Iconeum wrote:your level of confidence is too damn high and unnatural
Their entire play today I have found unhelpful. No one should be spouting so many opinions at such high levels of confidence and berating everyone for not agreeing and directing how town should play.
If they are town, then the consequences of them being wrong would be disastrous. If they are scum, the same.
So I have tried to ignore them as best I can.
I am assuming they are just weird town, straight up.scum I don't think would play like this
you didnt understand that ico in this quote understood my quote not right. i explained it to her after that. read.
I was just quoting them, I read it as their opinion that you are running around at 100% all the time. I cannot handle that much truth....
In post 2250, Dwlee99 wrote:With three a claimed VT it isn't the worst thing in the world if he is town to flip him here. And if Andres is behind it I feel okay voting there. I agree with Andres on the feeling disarmed by t3's reaction but I'm trying to remember if something similar happened in opposum mafia
in opossum i just completely imploded and still dodged the lim
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Hey, please don't call anyone moron. He is clearly new in this forum, will take time to understand the way of things here.
Again apologizing for my rude behavior towards you
Wiki
.
I'm waiting for someone to say something special in mafia game(s) about me, so that, I can change my pathetic signature.
Hey, please don't call anyone moron. He is clearly new in this forum, will take time to understand the way of things here.
Again apologizing for my rude behavior towards you
Wiki
.
you'd better think from his pov: 1) he thinks im a scum 2) he calls me moron, clown etc. 1 and 2 cannot be together, something is wrong with his thinking. for example, he LIES that he thinks that i am a scum. think about it
In post 2237, Andresvmb wrote:I started feeling better about T3 though I can’t quite explain it. Something about acknowledging that my reasons weren’t idiotic I just found disarming.
Ok, he can be with Gera.
Maybe with GammaLooker, but i dont think so.
Hard to believe he is with Salsa, A50, Datisi.
Ico? He was forced to vote Three and became nervouse. Hmm.
Three, Ico, Gera...
Need one more... Looker/Dorsey? Or smb is bussing? Smb of Dwlee/Andre/T3?