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Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:03 am

In post 4341, imaginality wrote:If Pooky literally never buses his buddies D1 doesn't that cross into a trust tell? Like instead of "I'm always town if I say I am" it's "I'm always town if I say 'vote X' and X flips scum D1"?

Ugh. I just don't believe scum target TIL which would mean hoping Gamma targeted someone else. When scum have presumably used Perish Song on someone. Like, who else would Dwlee realistically have used Perish Song on?

And if there's a town power that could direct the scum kill onto Pooky surely someone would have claimed that?

So VOTE: Pooky

Oh and I agree about it being time to mass claim.

I'm Girafarig. My power is Psybeam. I can target a player and find out if they have killed. I have two shots of that. I targeted Milobird N2 and was told my action failed. I haven't used my second shot yet.

How is that a trust tell? I’m the one who said it not Pooky?

Pooky doesn’t vig his buddy, scum!Pooky would have persuaded Cakez to kill town.

~I

Wisdom · Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:09 am

How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy

Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:12 am

In post 4349, Wisdom wrote:Everything related has already been claimed

Not everyone has claimed. It’s also possible scum no killed. Idk why they wouldn’t but it’s a possibility but I think there could be other explanations especially when everything I know about Pooky meta makes this highly improbable.

imaginality · Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:13 am

In post 4344, Wisdom wrote:Ugh that feels like a safe fakeclaim if i ever saw one
Claiming targeting the rolestopped person and no other results

You're right. I completely see how this claim looks scummy. I can't go back and change my target though.

I thought about claiming when Gamma hinted at blocking someone after N2 but didn't want to out my power then.

Wisdom · Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:14 am

Whyd you choose milo again?

Wisdom · Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:15 am

And why would you claim it while you have not used the other shot and risk getting interfered with?

Titus · Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:16 am

In post 4128, mastina wrote:Btw lemme know if this is wrong.

Living players:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
Save The Dragons
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)
WhemeStar
Titus The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
mastina
Truth Innuendos Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Malakittens Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
PookyTheMagicalBear Ralts
SirCakez
DkKoba Thestatusquo
MathBlade

Milobird has no clear but this is Bell's townplay and also notty looks insanely town af anyway.
Gamma Emerald's the rolestopper who counterclaimed Dwlee and is thus basically conftown here.
Truth Innouendos Lies is both obvtown from play and also the source of the cop guilty on Dwlee and thus IS conftown here.
SirCakez has a clear*, and is thus incredibly unlikely to be scum.
MathBlade has a clear*, and on top of that is a role incredibly likely to be town.
Titus is a friendly neighbor and is thus conftown.

*godfather's not flipped but confirmed to exist so all clears are not 100%

So removing that, it leaves:
Save The Dragons
Wisdom
imaginality
WhemeStar
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
Malakittens / Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
PookyTheMagicalBear / Ralts
DkKoba Thestatusquo (has roleclaimed but this roleclaim doesn't affect my read)

From there, I still have a townread on STD and Wisdom (I realize this isn't universal) and think that Malakittens and DKKoba are still less likely to be scum from play alone.

Which leaves my personal initial "PoE" (it's not really one since some of the names here aren't so much scumreads as much as "I personally cannot get a read there RIGHT NOW even if others can and think the slot is town") as:
{imaginality, WhemeStar, chowchow, Pooky} for 2 scum remaining.

I mostly agree with this but add Gamma and Wisdom and STD in the PoE.

Pausing here

Wisdom · Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:16 am

And why did you not act on n3?

Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:18 am

In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy

It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I

Wisdom · Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:20 am

Its safe as hell
He doesn't even confirm anyone as he claims targeting Milo who was rolestopped
And it doesn't make any sense not to use it on n3
Or to claim it with a shot still available

Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:22 am

In post 4356, Titus wrote:
In post 4128, mastina wrote:Btw lemme know if this is wrong.

Living players:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
Save The Dragons
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)
WhemeStar
Titus The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
mastina
Truth Innuendos Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Malakittens Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
PookyTheMagicalBear Ralts
SirCakez
DkKoba Thestatusquo
MathBlade

Milobird has no clear but this is Bell's townplay and also notty looks insanely town af anyway.
Gamma Emerald's the rolestopper who counterclaimed Dwlee and is thus basically conftown here.
Truth Innouendos Lies is both obvtown from play and also the source of the cop guilty on Dwlee and thus IS conftown here.
SirCakez has a clear*, and is thus incredibly unlikely to be scum.
MathBlade has a clear*, and on top of that is a role incredibly likely to be town.
Titus is a friendly neighbor and is thus conftown.

*godfather's not flipped but confirmed to exist so all clears are not 100%

So removing that, it leaves:
Save The Dragons
Wisdom
imaginality
WhemeStar
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
Malakittens / Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
PookyTheMagicalBear / Ralts
DkKoba Thestatusquo (has roleclaimed but this roleclaim doesn't affect my read)

From there, I still have a townread on STD and Wisdom (I realize this isn't universal) and think that Malakittens and DKKoba are still less likely to be scum from play alone.

Which leaves my personal initial "PoE" (it's not really one since some of the names here aren't so much scumreads as much as "I personally cannot get a read there RIGHT NOW even if others can and think the slot is town") as:
{imaginality, WhemeStar, chowchow, Pooky} for 2 scum remaining.
I mostly agree with this but add Gamma and Wisdom and STD in the PoE.

Pausing here

Why would Gamma be in your PoE? He has been my most confident tr in this game and Mastina confirmed him as the rs that visited her not Dwelee.

~I

Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:25 am

In post 4359, Wisdom wrote:Its safe as hell
He doesn't even confirm anyone as he claims targeting Milo who was rolestopped
And it doesn't make any sense not to use it on n3
Or to claim it with a shot still available

Yes it’s extremely suspicious that he wouldn’t use it last night. This reminds me of SS’ fakeclaim in OMB. I can probably find it but both Gamma and Mastina can probably comment on that as well.

~I

MathBlade · Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:27 am

In post 4358, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy
It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I

Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.

Wisdom · Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:30 am

Math thoughts on Imaginality claim please
And a vote there if you agree

Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:32 am

In post 4362, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4358, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy
It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I
Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.

Sorry.

I sincerely apologize for what I said to you before I knew who you were.

MathBlade · Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:36 am

In post 4363, Wisdom wrote:Math thoughts on Imaginality claim please
And a vote there if you agree

My thoughts are my setup spec was clearly proven wrong.

I think it’s more than likely if scum imaginality is buying time for a deep wolf.
With all this rolestopping/blocking/things I would envision scum having a strongman

This makes the no kill highly unusual.

In short I am undecided and I want to see where imaginality takes this
If he’s scum he’s doing it for a reason
After all it’s a voluntary claim.

Doubtful scum go “Look I am scum” without a reason

MathBlade · Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:36 am

In post 4364, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4362, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4358, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy
It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I
Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.
Sorry.

I sincerely apologize for what I said to you before I knew who you were.

That was a bit harsh sorry.

I have a bug that doesn’t want to go away

Wisdom · Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:38 am

Theres nobody else being suspected though that Imaginality could draw votes from
Except Pooky obviously but he voted Pooky

MathBlade · Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:38 am

They also killed Kyo over the cop in Firebringer without knowing if he was one shot or not IIRC?

Like I keep wanting to elim Mastina but every time I try to look at this she’s coming up scum.

Truth Innuendos Lies · Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:38 am

In post 4366, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4364, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4362, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4358, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy
It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I
Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.
Sorry.

I sincerely apologize for what I said to you before I knew who you were.
That was a bit harsh sorry.

I have a bug that doesn’t want to go away

No worries, I really hope you feel better soon. <3

MathBlade · Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:39 am

In post 4367, Wisdom wrote:Theres nobody else being suspected though that Imaginality could draw votes from
Except Pooky obviously but he voted Pooky

Buying time isn’t about drawing votes though

I agree something is off but I think it’s expectations of the game.

MathBlade · Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:39 am

In post 4369, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4366, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4364, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4362, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4358, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy
It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I
Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.
Sorry.

I sincerely apologize for what I said to you before I knew who you were.
That was a bit harsh sorry.

I have a bug that doesn’t want to go away
No worries, I really hope you feel better soon. <3

Coding bug lol developer

Wisdom · Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:41 am

In post 4370, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4367, Wisdom wrote:Theres nobody else being suspected though that Imaginality could draw votes from
Except Pooky obviously but he voted Pooky
Buying time isn’t about drawing votes though

I agree something is off but I think it’s expectations of the game.

What is it about
If we assume he wants his buddy to live through today, then his buddy would need to be in danger today

Titus · Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:42 am

In post 4362, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4358, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:
In post 4351, Wisdom wrote:How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy
It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I
Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.

Being wrong doesn't make you an idiot.

You should still try but look at things from another's perspective. Alts are meant for experimentation. If you do the same thing in the same manner, your alt gets outed quickly.

MathBlade · Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:43 am

In post 4372, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4370, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4367, Wisdom wrote:Theres nobody else being suspected though that Imaginality could draw votes from
Except Pooky obviously but he voted Pooky
Buying time isn’t about drawing votes though

I agree something is off but I think it’s expectations of the game.
What is it about
If we assume he wants his buddy to live through today, then his buddy would need to be in danger today

Not necessarily. Strategic sacrifice is a thing.

I did it to Not Mafia when he wasn’t posting and forgot about a game.
Bought me time to see how others reads were lining up so I could BS.