Newbie 2082 - Game Over

[MafMen]

i disagree with igor being scum here
he fits in the category of twtbaw, the tells are too blatantly obvious for them to flip red

sorry idk how to express my thoughts, but basically i don't feel guilty because i'm town. is wrong to think this way?

this post gives a good insight into igors mindset and i think this makes him look ptownie


i think my wagon was pretty pure so im personally dealing with a poe of margot, implosion, and frogsfrogs
theres for sure

atleast

one wolf in that comp if not two, but im not 100% confident in saying my wagon was all green

[igorsprite]

@Greeting i'm really not saying too much to avoid complicating myself, but not because i'm scum. So if you're town, i suggest that you be suspicious of someone else so you don't waste time.

But i'm curious, what did i say that looked suspicious?

[frogsfrogs]

As much as I get where you're coming from, "avoiding complicating yourself" is exactly the scum's preoccupation, not a town member's.

[frogsfrogs]

When you said you "removed the least suspicious" but also said those you removed were genuine newbies/those from past games, i'm a bit confused - which is it? Or do you just think you have a townread on catboi based on past games, and that the others are genuine newbies in the sense that they are newbies acting genuinely town?

Agreed that I'm confused here! Also, is thynhith in the newbies classification or did you not mention them at all?

[Thynhith]

My take on the situation is that Maf, psuedo and igfor are in a dark little triangle of their own, and I have difficulty seeing through. At this stage I'd be most comfortable limming out of those 3. Plus their newbieness muddies everything up.
And implosion seems a little too distant for my liking. Hope we hurry up with Margot coming back or her replacement.

[Micc]

Votecount 1.03

Mafmen (3) -

catboi, Thynhith, igorsprite

MargotRosa (1) -

pseudoAristotle

Thynhith (1) -

MargotRosa

igorsprite (1) -

Greeting

Not Voting (3) -

frogsfrogs, MafMen, implosion

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate,

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-11-05 22:05:00).

Replacing MargotRosa.

[frogsfrogs]

I agree with what Thynhith said up there! I'm unsure of a lot of the same people and most suspicious of Igor and Mafmen. I think based on Igor's quick vote they likely aren't

both

scum, but either is possible? Again, don't really agree with the reasoning Mafmen brought up that Igor's just too obvious to be maf, since so many of us are inexperienced in here. Placing a vote here for now.

VOTE: igorsprite

[catboi]

I agree with what Thynhith said up there! I'm unsure of a lot of the same people and most suspicious of Igor and Mafmen. I think based on Igor's quick vote they likely aren't

both

scum, but either is possible? Again, don't really agree with the reasoning Mafmen brought up that Igor's just too obvious to be maf, since so many of us are inexperienced in here. Placing a vote here for now.

VOTE: igorsprite

Missing here is any reason igorsprite is actually scum

[igorsprite]

1 more vote and i start to talk, i want to see who will vote for me

[Greeting]

That jump is fairly townish.

Unvote

When you said you "removed the least suspicious" but also said those you removed were genuine newbies/those from past games, i'm a bit confused - which is it?

Or do you just think you have a townread on catboi based on past games, and that the others are genuine newbies in the sense that they are newbies acting genuinely town?

I was with catboi in N2081, we both were town that game (it ended). So far, he’s acting similarly to that game.
The rest of players that I removed I find quite similar: all of them are new, all of them make newbie posts and newbie mistakes and I didn’t find anything to arise my suspicions.

So, the answer to your question is the bolded part.

[Greeting]

@Greeting i'm really not saying too much to avoid complicating myself, but not because i'm scum. So if you're town, i suggest that you be suspicious of someone else so you don't waste time.

But i'm curious, what did i say that looked suspicious?

You basically said very little, if anything. Your posts give the impression of someone who wants to seem active but without providing any content, possibly to avoid implicating yourself.

[igorsprite]

@Greeting i'm really not saying too much to avoid complicating myself, but not because i'm scum. So if you're town, i suggest that you be suspicious of someone else so you don't waste time.

But i'm curious, what did i say that looked suspicious?

You basically said very little, if anything. Your posts give the impression of someone who wants to seem active but without providing any content, possibly to avoid implicating yourself.

hmm... noted, ty.

[Thynhith]

1 more vote and i start to talk, i want to see who will vote for me

As you wish. VOTE: igorsprite
You should know you're only acting more and more anti-town. Why withhold your thoughts? You won't get anything from your "wagon" and you're distracting town from actively scumhunting

[igorsprite]

1 more vote and i start to talk, i want to see who will vote for me

As you wish. VOTE: igorsprite
You should know you're only acting more and more anti-town. Why withhold your thoughts? You won't get anything from your "wagon" and you're distracting town from actively scumhunting

i'm the tracker, i think it removes the distraction from me.

and i think that frogsfrogs is scum because they vote feels too oportunist

[igorsprite]

@Greeting how comfortable are you now with your vote? u.u

[MafMen]

oh boy
igor for future reference never claim as pr unless absolutely necessary, you werent really at a risk of dying there man

[MafMen]

if theres any ccs then i guess we lim igor but i highly doubt that was fake

[pseudoAristotle]

If we don't vote Igor out tonight (i'm not implying that's the default, i just think we're a long way off from verifying him) I could offer to check his role by asking him to tell me who I visited, if anyone?

[MafMen]

mafia literally never claims pr there no matter how much of a newbie u are
unnescessary carefulness

[Greeting]

@Greeting how comfortable are you now with your vote? u.u

Oh boy, this isn't good. Until we have a counterclaim, there is no reason not to believe igor.

[Greeting]

UNVOTE: igorsprite

If we really do have a tracker, then these are the remaining possible setups:

1. Mafia Roleblocker, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker;
2. Mafia Rolecop, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor;
3. Mafia Rolecop, Town Tracker, Town Doctor.

Let me think for a while, perhaps we can use this info to our benefit. To the other town PR:

please do not claim for now unless you find it absolutely necessary

.

[MafMen]

66% chance of maf cop then
roleblocks announce right?

[igorsprite]

If we don't vote Igor out tonight (i'm not implying that's the default, i just think we're a long way off from verifying him) I could offer to check his role by asking him to tell me who I visited, if anyone?

why would i waste my role on you? you can just ask your mafia partner to kill instead of you

VOTE: pseudoAristotle

[Greeting]

So there is a 33.3% chance we have a Mafia Roleblocker in the game and a 66.6% we have a Mafia Rolecop.

It isn't very good if we have setup number 1. The Jailkeeper can choose to keep igorsprite alive but we will not be able to get any benefits of their role, so essentially we will lose both PRs, with mafia always having the Roleblocker to their disposal.

I think our situation is objectively worst if the setup is number 2. Basically, we're fucked. If we have setup number 2, the Town Tracker is basically lost and there is nothing we can do about it.

If we have setup number 3 then there is hope. We could pull something akin to N2081 with Doctor continuously targeting igorsprite and igorsprite investigating players. We wouldn't have to worry very much about the Rolecop.

If we have a Doctor in the game, let me repeat,

please do not claim unless you find it absolutely necessary.

[frogsfrogs]

UNVOTE:

Well :I