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Post Post #5300 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:42 am

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Also because
Gamma/Dwlee
were already strong on my townlist so my options have limited.
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Post Post #5301 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:43 am

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Mafia giving me the finger for taking control
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Post Post #5302 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:48 am

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I'm like actually mad

2 out of the 3 people voting
Dunn
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Dunn's
scumflip..

W/e
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Post Post #5303 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:52 am

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In post 5299, Taly wrote:Fuck the pair idea now, I'm voting my strongest confident toenreads since we have nothing to fear.
Yeah, that’s why I wanted to suggest a staggered approach tbh, I felt like there was a chance scum would kill the first crosser in a back-to-back pair
There was a degree of self-pres but I also very much didn’t want to offer a free ride to potential scum that would’ve crossed in the back-to-back method, since while my thing with Dwlee was pretty one-sided ulyana/Cakez and gooey/skitter were definitely ones where it would’ve been advantageous for scum in there to try to cross right after their rival and then kick out the bridge under them.
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Post Post #5304 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:54 am

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In post 5299, Taly wrote:Why didn't we have this hypothetical conversation before the first cross?
i mean, this conversation:
In post 4360, ulyana wrote:
In post 4357, petapan wrote:whoever of the people sent earliest is the hardest to eliminate
hm,

% on me dying if sent first?

and!

would that be worth
was one of the very first things i asked and i talked about it later on when proposing plan and such so, uh, yeah
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Post Post #5305 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:55 am

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being like 'why didn't we talk about this!' when people did talk about it and being upset about that feels weird
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Post Post #5306 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:56 am

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In post 5264, ulyana wrote:
In post 5262, Taly wrote:I wonder if I predict a player's death snd then mafia choose that player to die just to make the argument I'm informed.

That'd be funny lmao

Makes me want to test the theory~
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if you think the mafia want gamma to die why you think people pushing for gamma emerald to go second specifically
This is a little weird pre-kill.

Like, did you think
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Gamma/Yourself/Cakez
or do you think the first cross more likely died than the second or 3rd/4th?
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In post 5221, Taly wrote:We vote for the next person to cross.

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VOTE: Ulyana
no I don't want Uly to cross yet let's send some more townie people like Peta or you
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No.

The frustration is genuine and I'm not debating that as any merit to the slots alignment because I've seen that same emotion come from that player as scum and they won because of the WIFOM from that.

But while I have grievances with the slot over that I don't want to call it AI out of respect for that person's emotions.
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Post Post #5307 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:57 am

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In post 5304, ulyana wrote:
In post 5299, Taly wrote:Why didn't we have this hypothetical conversation before the first cross?
i mean, this conversation:
In post 4360, ulyana wrote:
In post 4357, petapan wrote:whoever of the people sent earliest is the hardest to eliminate
hm,

% on me dying if sent first?

and!

would that be worth
was one of the very first things i asked and i talked about it later on when proposing plan and such so, uh, yeah
In post 5305, ulyana wrote:being like 'why didn't we talk about this!' when people did talk about it and being upset about that feels weird
Oh shit. Sorry actually skipped the post you linked

I was mainly talking about
Ydra
proposing the first kill as an easy excuse for mafia to kill.

Had I considered that I might have been more cautious with my choice.
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Post Post #5308 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:58 am

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In post 5306, Taly wrote:
In post 5264, ulyana wrote:
In post 5262, Taly wrote:I wonder if I predict a player's death snd then mafia choose that player to die just to make the argument I'm informed.

That'd be funny lmao

Makes me want to test the theory~
:eyes: Gamma
if you think the mafia want gamma to die why you think people pushing for gamma emerald to go second specifically
This is a little weird pre-kill.

Like, did you think
Dwlee
was ways the likelier kill versus
Gamma/Yourself/Cakez
or do you think the first cross more likely died than the second or 3rd/4th?
? what? i was asking what you thought of the people pushing for gamma emerald specifically to go second if you thought mafia wanted gamma to die
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Post Post #5309 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:00 am

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In post 5308, ulyana wrote:? what? i was asking what you thought of the people pushing for gamma emerald specifically to go second if you thought mafia wanted gamma to die
like a few people voted for me and then people went nonono has to be gamma emerald next!! right? so if you thought mafia wanted to kill gamma, did this mean something to you?
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Post Post #5310 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:02 am

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In post 5308, ulyana wrote:
In post 5306, Taly wrote:
In post 5264, ulyana wrote:
In post 5262, Taly wrote:I wonder if I predict a player's death snd then mafia choose that player to die just to make the argument I'm informed.

That'd be funny lmao

Makes me want to test the theory~
:eyes: Gamma
if you think the mafia want gamma to die why you think people pushing for gamma emerald to go second specifically
This is a little weird pre-kill.

Like, did you think
Dwlee
was ways the likelier kill versus
Gamma/Yourself/Cakez
or do you think the first cross more likely died than the second or 3rd/4th?
? what? i was asking what you thought of the people pushing for gamma emerald specifically to go second if you thought mafia wanted gamma to die
Oh, I misread. Sorry again x.x

pedit

ulyana wrote:
In post 5308, ulyana wrote:? what? i was asking what you thought of the people pushing for gamma emerald specifically to go second if you thought mafia wanted gamma to die
like a few people voted for me and then people went nonono has to be gamma emerald next!! right? so if you thought mafia wanted to kill gamma, did this mean something to you?
I didn't actually have much of a inkling to think
Gamma
would die. I figured their kill would be determined more by order or a player potentially later in the draw.
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Post Post #5311 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:04 am

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In post 5303, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 5299, Taly wrote:Fuck the pair idea now, I'm voting my strongest confident toenreads since we have nothing to fear.
Yeah, that’s why I wanted to suggest a staggered approach tbh, I felt like there was a chance scum would kill the first crosser in a back-to-back pair
There was a degree of self-pres but I also very much didn’t want to offer a free ride to potential scum that would’ve crossed in the back-to-back method, since while my thing with Dwlee was pretty one-sided ulyana/Cakez and gooey/skitter were definitely ones where it would’ve been advantageous for scum in there to try to cross right after their rival and then kick out the bridge under them.
Mmm, damn.

What do you think is the best step from here?
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Post Post #5312 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:06 am

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My first step is going to be reading through the mod ISO to see what we know to be 100% clear. Then, I'll read through the game with that knowledge. Anyone want to give me the 411 while I get my rig set up?
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Post Post #5313 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 5312, Tamora's Angel wrote:My first step is going to be reading through the mod ISO to see what we know to be 100% clear. Then, I'll read through the game with that knowledge. Anyone want to give me the 411 while I get my rig set up?
I'm having a breakdown. :D
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Post Post #5314 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 5312, Tamora's Angel wrote:My first step is going to be reading through the mod ISO to see what we know to be 100% clear. Then, I'll read through the game with that knowledge. Anyone want to give me the 411 while I get my rig set up?
In post 3795, ulyana wrote:
In post 3793, Harley Quinn wrote:Hi, haven’t read anything but skimmed my predecessor’s ISO, so if anyone could help me catch up what I’ve missed, that would be super.
like, if you're just looking for the events,

event one we chose gamma emerald for the throne of execution
gamma was sabotaged into killing pooky and killed cephrir
then we spared gamma
then we voted dunnstral and toogeloo into a duel
dunnstral died in the duel
rooms were split between everyone voting for toogeloo and everyone else
toogeloo-voting room nominated infinity non-toogeloo-voting room nominated petapan
and that's where we're currently at
this was through harley's replacement, since then
infinity was eliminated through the secret ballot
now we are voting people to cross a bridge one at a time,
dwlee was sent across first and fell to their death when gamma emerald was sent across

reading mod posts probably a good place to start yeah
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Post Post #5315 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:13 am

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In post 5313, Taly wrote:
In post 5312, Tamora's Angel wrote:My first step is going to be reading through the mod ISO to see what we know to be 100% clear. Then, I'll read through the game with that knowledge. Anyone want to give me the 411 while I get my rig set up?
I'm having a breakdown. :D
I'm OK now.
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Post Post #5316 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:53 am

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Based on reading the mod ISO, I'm wondering why Gooey slot hasn't been dead. Scum saved Galron (if I am understanding correctly).

Was Gamma nominated because of feeling he was town at the time or scum?

I want to look at Pooky's reads given the early sabotage.

Galron's and Ydrasse's self-voting in the duel event struck me as odd.

What were the final votes in Peta v Infinity?
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Post Post #5317 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:57 am

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In post 5316, Tamora's Angel wrote:Based on reading the mod ISO, I'm wondering why Gooey slot hasn't been dead. Scum saved Galron (if I am understanding correctly).

Was Gamma nominated because of feeling he was town at the time or scum?

I want to look at Pooky's reads given the early sabotage.

Galron's and Ydrasse's self-voting in the duel event struck me as odd.

What were the final votes in Peta v Infinity?
it was a free kill for the scums on whoever they wanted so they would have used always i think not just if galron was a scums

for most of us because of feeling he was scum i believe

it was a secret ballot so no revealed votes
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Post Post #5318 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:59 am

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Why is
ulya
scum,
cakez
?
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Post Post #5319 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 5317, ulyana wrote:
In post 5316, Tamora's Angel wrote:Based on reading the mod ISO, I'm wondering why Gooey slot hasn't been dead. Scum saved Galron (if I am understanding correctly).

Was Gamma nominated because of feeling he was town at the time or scum?

I want to look at Pooky's reads given the early sabotage.

Galron's and Ydrasse's self-voting in the duel event struck me as odd.

What were the final votes in Peta v Infinity?
it was a free kill for the scums on whoever they wanted so they would have used always i think not just if galron was a scums

for most of us because of feeling he was scum i believe

it was a secret ballot so no revealed votes
Not sure on that. The rules state that scum only get two sabotages. Unless they know every event and every sabotage, using one so early unless desperate would be the wrong move.

Pooky's thoughts are important being the first to die.

Why didn't y'all claim the votes?
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Post Post #5320 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:09 am

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Pooky was sus of dunn I'm pretty sure, and also seemed savvy in the mechanics
I was actually expecting ulyana to be the scum's kill in this event thinking they were implementing similar logic, which is why I wanted her to cross second after I'd thought about the staggering play. I feel like if she's town she's probably someone scum legitimately do want out.
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Post Post #5321 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:11 am

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In post 5319, Tamora's Angel wrote:
In post 5317, ulyana wrote:
In post 5316, Tamora's Angel wrote:Based on reading the mod ISO, I'm wondering why Gooey slot hasn't been dead. Scum saved Galron (if I am understanding correctly).

Was Gamma nominated because of feeling he was town at the time or scum?

I want to look at Pooky's reads given the early sabotage.

Galron's and Ydrasse's self-voting in the duel event struck me as odd.

What were the final votes in Peta v Infinity?
it was a free kill for the scums on whoever they wanted so they would have used always i think not just if galron was a scums

for most of us because of feeling he was scum i believe

it was a secret ballot so no revealed votes
Not sure on that. The rules state that scum only get two sabotages. Unless they know every event and every sabotage, using one so early unless desperate would be the wrong move.

Pooky's thoughts are important being the first to die.

Why didn't y'all claim the votes?
using it for a great advantage in a nightless game when you don't know when you'd be able to eliminate specific towns seems kinda an always use to me

we did in advance for the most part
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Post Post #5322 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:12 am

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In post 5319, Tamora's Angel wrote:Why didn't y'all claim the votes?
also like, how does this find us a scums exactly
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Post Post #5323 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:13 am

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At page 10,

Gamma, Prism!slot, Dwlee, and Toog town. Peta feels weird. #113 by Ydrasse is odd calling for logic and then later self-voting. No scumreads because a scum agenda isn't known.
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Post Post #5324 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:13 am

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In post 5320, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was actually expecting ulyana to be the scum's kill in this event thinking they were implementing similar logic, which is why I wanted her to cross second after I'd thought about the staggering play. I feel like if she's town she's probably someone scum legitimately do want out.
??????? i literally argued to go first for this reason
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