In post 5595, Gammagooey wrote:I feel quite confident that Fire can sheep things without reading as any alignment and is perfectly fine announcing it to the world
if you're town then it would mean firebringer also voted for two towns to cross so if scum!firebringer i would think partners or at the very least one would have to already be crossed? because otherwise would be sheeping team into doomed position and not trying to do anything about it
like,
the 'look see i don't have an agenda' thing doesn't really work if it puts team in unwinnable situation,
the alternative is worse for Firebringer-scum and also just not firebringer's playstyle at all
Firebringer as a player doesn't jump in, read a bunch and make a STRONG OPINION to try to save his faction. he's a lazy boi regardless of alignment and by being a lazy boi people town read him for silly reasons, again regardless of his actual alignment. Fire immediately jumping in and trying to save someone from being left behind off of very little reading just makes him look sus and makes it more likely he gets left behind.
In post 5595, Gammagooey wrote:I feel quite confident that Fire can sheep things without reading as any alignment and is perfectly fine announcing it to the world
if you're town then it would mean firebringer also voted for two towns to cross so if scum!firebringer i would think partners or at the very least one would have to already be crossed? because otherwise would be sheeping team into doomed position and not trying to do anything about it
like,
the 'look see i don't have an agenda' thing doesn't really work if it puts team in unwinnable situation,
the alternative is worse for Firebringer-scum and also just not firebringer's playstyle at all
Firebringer as a player doesn't jump in, read a bunch and make a STRONG OPINION to try to save his faction. he's a lazy boi regardless of alignment and by being a lazy boi people town read him for silly reasons, again regardless of his actual alignment. Fire immediately jumping in and trying to save someone from being left behind off of very little reading just makes him look sus and makes it more likely he gets left behind.
so hope for scum!firebringer with partners in the poe would be to cross by seeming agendaless and then hope that just continues to carry him forever, hmhm
i think i am unfamiliar with firebringer outside of a game i read a while ago that i wasn't in
In post 5595, Gammagooey wrote:I feel quite confident that Fire can sheep things without reading as any alignment and is perfectly fine announcing it to the world
if you're town then it would mean firebringer also voted for two towns to cross so if scum!firebringer i would think partners or at the very least one would have to already be crossed? because otherwise would be sheeping team into doomed position and not trying to do anything about it
like,
the 'look see i don't have an agenda' thing doesn't really work if it puts team in unwinnable situation,
the alternative is worse for Firebringer-scum and also just not firebringer's playstyle at all
Firebringer as a player doesn't jump in, read a bunch and make a STRONG OPINION to try to save his faction. he's a lazy boi regardless of alignment and by being a lazy boi people town read him for silly reasons, again regardless of his actual alignment. Fire immediately jumping in and trying to save someone from being left behind off of very little reading just makes him look sus and makes it more likely he gets left behind.
That's the impression I've always had of
Fire
. He's up there with
S_S
and
the worst
on players I don't read well.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
In post 5600, Gammagooey wrote:Firebringer as a player doesn't jump in, read a bunch and make a STRONG OPINION to try to save his faction. he's a lazy boi regardless of alignment and by being a lazy boi people town read him for silly reasons, again regardless of his actual alignment. Fire immediately jumping in and trying to save someone from being left behind off of very little reading just makes him look sus and makes it more likely he gets left behind.
i would def jump in and defend someone if i thought they were town, but given how this setup works it only matters for last person crossing and if i really townread them. everyone else i just have to feel is good enough to cross.
trying too hard in mafia is lame and unfun anyways
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
so im on first day of new job with no computer access working remote. waiting a call back from IT to get work laptop fixed. Good times.
good news is u guys get more of me today! bad news is i might behind my training lol
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 5605, ulyana wrote:jazz mafia was one of the first games i read upon discovering the site because it had recently won a best game scummy or something like that
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
, if I close my eyes tight enough and wish really hard, would you be town?
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
as a general rule i don't claim town because i think its overdone and boring taly.
and i don't try to change peoples opinions of me directly because i think its a waste of effort.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
possibly. Tamora is only one ive been iffy on since i got in and i was kind of thinking cakez telling me the people to send of not including himself (originally) was kind of weird for him.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 5601, ulyana wrote:
so hope for scum!firebringer with partners in the poe would be to cross by seeming agendaless and then hope that just continues to carry him forever, hmhm
i think i am unfamiliar with firebringer outside of a game i read a while ago that i wasn't in
It's from a while back (5 years now jeez) but Firebringer and I both replaced into scum playerslots in Kids TV Show Characters mafia (him lateish day 1, me mid-day 2) if you want to take a quick skim of our isos there for a baseline of either of our potential scum play. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67884
Also fun fact literally not a single mafia got voted out that game, there was just a good commuterizer and a good vig and they teamed up and slowly destroyed us during the night phases
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
Firebringer wrote:man we are old. and i forgot how extensive ur scum range is
its dece. I feel like I haven't had a really good scum game in years but also I have a habit of playing 1-3 games a year and then not playing any forum mafia for a year and then coming back so I don't exactly roll scum too often either
Firebringer wrote:man we are old. and i forgot how extensive ur scum range is
its dece. I feel like I haven't had a really good scum game in years but also I have a habit of playing 1-3 games a year and then not playing any forum mafia for a year and then coming back so I don't exactly roll scum too often either
my vague memory from back in the ay was that you were supposed to be transparent when town, of course i only think i was in one game with you
i went back and looke at unwnd and my brain shut off, i couldn't get through it all. i hated his AtE on a reread but i still think when have gave actual content it was okay
my general sense from having seen him as scum in a couple games is that when he writes stuff for the sake of writing stuff and lacks definite conclusions on players, i remember reading his posts in other games and thinking "what the fuck are you talking about" and i didn't get that sense here. went to sort of briefly review the game where i'd caught him (when he replaced into a slot i was already scumreading) and that was the main thing i remember. i don't think it was present her, at least in the moment, but even bringing myself to focus on a review is hard
my desire to try to drive anything at all right now is minimal though
possibly. Tamora is only one ive been iffy on since i got in and i was kind of thinking cakez telling me the people to send of not including himself (originally) was kind of weird for him.
I townlean
Fire/Toog
these past 2 pages.
Going to group ISO
Prism-Gypyx/Cakez/Tamora
and then likely revisit the latter half of
peta's Dunn
analysis.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
trying to extract a read on a handful of posts from a notoriously carefree player over the 346 posts left behind by skitter which are surely more AI is a very questionable process
In post 5619, petapan wrote:firebringer's posting so far ingame is entirely NAI
In post 5620, petapan wrote:trying to extract a read on a handful of posts from a notoriously carefree player over the 346 posts left behind by skitter which are surely more AI is a very questionable process
You caught me, I did a conflip.
But honestly I want to look at
Prism/Gypyx
first.
I could've misread
Gypyx's
wild reversal from
Prism
in terms of trajectory on
Gamma
.
I also suspected
Prism
was a powerwolf early Event 1.
Gypyx
has had a nearly incomprehensible read progressions this game.
And the growing suspicion of
Gypyx
doesn't outright mean he isn't scum. He might be bussed.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
