Newbie 2082 - Game Over

[frogsfrogs]

Welcome, StrangeMatter! Hello again everyone.

[StrangeMatter]

Hey hey.

So I looked through the game and, Greeting you really shouldn't hammer yourself just to eliminate Val89. If you ask me, it's putting the absolute worst risk imaginable Day 1 with post #204. Ok so if theoretically both of you flip town and everyone follows that, you would've given scum two different attempts at catching PR, and puts us in ELO (4 players eliminated leaves the game at a 2v3, not MELO (Miselimination and Lose, that's what I'm assuming the acronym means)).

It might not be something scum does (though I have almost no evidence of scum actually doing that I wouldn't think people wouldn't and couldn't) but it's absolutely anti-town to do that if you ask me.

EBWOP

[catboi]

And that's why you don't mess around with pre-flip associatives. Sorry.

Well, regardless, I had a thought crop into my head overnight, want to check back and see if my hunch was on to something.

[catboi]

Hm, the thought was that mafmen was getting himself entangled in an argument with Val for the sake of arguing against someone he knew was using faulty reasoning and get wrapped up in that rather than making real contributions. I don't know how much I want to commit to that view right now but certainly don't townlean there on review.

[catboi]

VOTE: frogsfrogs

Starting here. Think their day 1 amounted mostly to opportunistic sheeping, little in the way of their own thoughts, the things people have given them towncred for are laughably shallow.

[catboi]

One last things:

@igorsprite:

if you got a report, you should say so

but should not out the contents of the report

. the mafia already know whether or not there is a roleblocker/jailkeeper in the setup, so outing this info can only benefit town.

[igorsprite]

One last things:

@igorsprite:

if you got a report, you should say so

but should not out the contents of the report

. the mafia already know whether or not there is a roleblocker/jailkeeper in the setup, so outing this info can only benefit town.

i didn't use my role last night because i thought that i was already dead

[StrangeMatter]

One last things:

@igorsprite:

if you got a report, you should say so

but should not out the contents of the report

. the mafia already know whether or not there is a roleblocker/jailkeeper in the setup, so outing this info can only benefit town.

i didn't use my role last night because i thought that i was already dead

Whyyyyyyyyyy

Pro tip even if you know you're probably going to die please use your action.

[catboi]

jesus christ

[catboi]

Whatever, not going to dwell on it.

Strange, do you have actual reads?

[StrangeMatter]

Well...I'm not sure if these even count but here's what I feel like on certain people so far.

Val89 - Feels kind of similar to how I've played with him in another game, very strong about how they feel about something. At this moment though I feel more like it's just his general playstyle since I haven't seen his scum gameplay to comment on this further. He is left at null so far.

Greeting - Already commented on it but that self vote is anti-town to me, but is a very newbie town (I'm also a newbie so take that with a grain of salt) type of play. However, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when he says "Why would I do that as scum?", which kind of leaves a bad feeling since last time someone said that they were scum, deepwolfing (I think), and were using that as a reason to be called town there. However, I feel like taking that with a grain of salt since Roden was playing very well as scum and has experience so I'll leave them at leaning newb town.

[StrangeMatter]

Greeting talking and feeling like they were intending to self vote I mean.

[MafMen]

great
in hindsight val having this one or the other policy with me and thyn is awful
its like he was setting himself up for failure

no deaths means one of three things
doc save
jk save
jk rb mafia

bonus option: mafia willingly didnt kill?

[MafMen]

mm nvm that info gives us nothing forget i said anything

[MafMen]

VOTE: Val89
ill plant it here for a while

[MafMen]

Hm, the thought was that mafmen was getting himself entangled in an argument with Val for the sake of arguing against someone he knew was using faulty reasoning and get wrapped up in that rather than making real contributions. I don't know how much I want to commit to that view right now but certainly don't townlean there on review.

i thought his argument was wolfy not that it just had 'faulty reasoning'
once we clarified our stances the argument was dropped

[MafMen]

igor

technically

you werent wrong in this situation but its always good to use your action just in case

[StrangeMatter]

igor

technically

you werent wrong in this situation but its always good to use your action just in case

I mean it's not as bad but you should almost always use your ability when you can use it as town PR.

[StrangeMatter]

Way too many people have not talked at the start of Day 2, can we please change that?

[Val89]

Some IRL issues have come up. While I do have something to say, I hope you will forgive me if I delay doing so until tomorrow.

[MafMen]

activity has been a major problem this game yea lol

[MafMen]

i make up like a 5th of a 9 player game
that is not good

[implosion]

I'm open to frogs, catboi and potentially StrangeMatter today. Still not interested in val or greeting, MafMen I can be convinced on but it would take a fair amount. I agree with catboi that frogs is one of the least townish people here but I also think if frogs is town then it's entirely possible catboi is scum who sees a townie that they think they can maneuver back into the lim pool; I'm decently confident there'd be scum in the two of them anyway just because of PoE.

[implosion]

I will need to do some re-reading before I have any real conclusive feelings on how d1 went.

[Greeting]

No one died. This means: we have a Doctor who saved the nightkill or we have a Jailkeeper who targeted either the nightkill or someone who might have tried to kill.

Or...

someone

is lying.

I honestly don’t understand why no one is discussing this. What a weird game.