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Post Post #2525 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 899, Gypyx wrote:morning tweet replaces save the dragons ! One replacement left
MT replaced StD.
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Post Post #2526 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:21 pm

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Pooky replaced unwnd who replaced pesto.
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Post Post #2527 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:22 pm

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In post 2525, Skybird wrote:
In post 899, Gypyx wrote:morning tweet replaces save the dragons ! One replacement left
MT replaced StD.
Who replaced Momrangel. It is in the op. <3
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Post Post #2528 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:41 pm

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Dwlee doesn't need to be investigative, he was cleared because I used a Friendly Neighbor ability
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Post Post #2529 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:45 pm

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In post 2437, the 2 mastinas wrote:I am but every town player that has flipped has had "dark" in their role name, minus you.
In post 0, Gypyx wrote:Taroumaru, The Royal Knight Of The Deeplands, died night 2
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Post Post #2530 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:46 pm

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In post 0, Gypyx wrote:Dragon Of The West, The Wicker Man, Executed day 1
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Post Post #2531 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:47 pm

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wait how is dwlee cleared from you friendly neighboring him
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Post Post #2532 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:53 pm

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He isn't mechanically cleared, I am, but the way the whole thing went down yesterday seems extremely unlikely to have come from scum!Dwlee
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Post Post #2533 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:56 pm

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Also I'm a miller you can't investigate me y'all
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Post Post #2534 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:57 pm

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Like I entered the game a miller and then I hammered a townie (and shouldn't I have two stacks of hated on me...?)
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Post Post #2535 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:58 pm

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In post 2532, Radical Rat wrote:He isn't mechanically cleared, I am, but the way the whole thing went down yesterday seems extremely unlikely to have come from scum!Dwlee
This makes me feel so much better. This makes so much more sense. And I agree about Dwelee.

Got it.

I had forgotten Tarou's role name, but I guess I consider the Wicker Man dark. I should have amended "dark or dark seeming".
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Post Post #2536 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:12 pm

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In post 3, Gypyx wrote:doing so multiple times will stack the number of votes on the person, but cannot go lower than (number of non-town alive + 1)
mb we r close to elo?
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Post Post #2537 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:13 pm

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In post 2534, Dwlee99 wrote:Like I entered the game a miller and then I hammered a townie (and shouldn't I have two stacks of hated on me...?)
I have been wondering why you are still hated.

That makes me believe A50.

So

Us
RR
Dwelee
A50
Pooky
Gamma

Enchant/Yuki/Skybird/MT are left. So mechanically it has to be in one of those.

Why aren't we doing a massclaim at this point?
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Post Post #2538 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:18 pm

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In post 2537, the 2 mastinas wrote:
In post 2534, Dwlee99 wrote:Like I entered the game a miller and then I hammered a townie (and shouldn't I have two stacks of hated on me...?)
I have been wondering why you are still hated.

That makes me believe A50.

So

Us
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Dwelee
A50
Pooky
Gamma

Enchant/Yuki/Skybird/MT are left. So mechanically it has to be in one of those.

Why aren't we doing a massclaim at this point?
sorry, I mean *in that pool*
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Post Post #2539 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:32 pm

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Also I retract what I said about Yuki/Skybird. One of them, if not both of them has to be scum.

Sorry, it has been a looooooong time since I have played a large solo, I usually do most of my writing on IM and I am RUSTY af.
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Post Post #2540 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:33 pm

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In post 2384, Morning Tweet wrote:I am the High Priestess of Azura's Hand, capable of targetting a player at night. If they attempt to attack someone or are attacked, I roleblock them and their visitors.

I was under the impression i got feedback if i was successful but i was mistaken
So I think that this is a scumclaim from Morning Tweet here for three reasons.

1: The main reason: Morning Tweet is claiming a protective.
Almost50 was roleblocked, so his role failed, but even if he hadn't been roleblocked, he'd have gotten a guilty.

Morning Tweet was in the POE yesterday; Morning Tweet knew Almost50's role; Morning Tweet as this role should have known that she'd show as a guilty to Almost50.

So:

If this claim is real, why didn't you claim that you were a miller to A50's role yesterday, MT?


2:
In post 2382, Almost50 wrote:You know what? I'm not feeling like doing another one of those, so I'm letting the others decide on it.
I targeted Morning Tweet and got no result, with an action failed notice
While it's possible that Almost50 was targeted by a nightkill if the game is multiball or pseudo-multiball (i.e., a serial killer), if the game is singleball, then there is no explanation for Almost50 being roleblocked. Scum killed Titus. Therefore, if the game is singleball, Almost50 could not have ALSO been killed by scum.

And yet, with Almost50 being roleblocked, there needs to be someone who roleblocked him. Morning Tweet's claim fits as a scum roleblocker modifying their role to be less scum than it is, with MT having just roleblocked A50 last night, no fancy dress-ups.

3: While I get that getting pushed by mollie was infuriating and that mollie's lack of having processed the claim was genuinely something that would be aggregating regardless of alignment, it read to me as "caught for the wrong reasons".

HOWEVER
, while I well and truly believe that Morning Tweet is scum for this claim, I want to leave Morning Tweet alive
this
day phase.
There's three reasons for this.
1: If the game IS multiball, Morning Tweet could be EITHER town OR scum but in either case the opposite scum has incentive to kill MT.
2: If I am wrong about MT being scum, MT is a powerful killstopper role who forces scum to guess. When we have better scum to eliminate, we should leave MT alive just in case MT is town so that MT can put pressure on the scum.
3: And we DO have better scum to eliminate--

Enchant is like 99% scum here, soooooooo.
With 9 alive if we have 1 elimination each night, we can go:
Enchant > Yuki > MT > Skybird (personal preference here).
(RR off the table due to being conftown, Dwlee off the table due to the way they generated conftown, Pooky off the table due to being conftown*, A50 off the table from being investigative that's very likely real, and Gamma off the table for being either a vig or multiball-scum or pseudo-multiball-scum and thus not the MAIN scum regardless.)
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Post Post #2541 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:45 pm

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As long as we eliminate at least Yuki and Enchant before me then thats fine

i can be pretty content with that analysis
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Post Post #2542 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:52 pm

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I didn't really think about claiming miller im not really used to claim stuff

Also do you know what an Azura's hand is? What is a wicker man? That point is not good

and as for caught for the wrong reasons, well it's more like you try really hard to make something out of a game cause you like replacing but you eliminate town and then you fail protects and then you get suspected for reasons that don't make sense and there's nothing you can do about it. Something along those lines set me off i think

it's fine now though
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Post Post #2543 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:54 pm

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I wasnt really under the impression i was PoE though, I more just thought that was your read

had i thought i was a viable mislim maybe i would have noticed

I feel just about as obviously in my town meta as i ever have, i exited it longer ago than i can remember. Like look at my post count. Scum terrifies me, and yes even multiball
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Post Post #2544 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:31 pm

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Post Post #2545 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:37 pm

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votecount 4.1
Enchant (3) :
Radical Rat ; Morning Tweet ; Pookythemagicalbear
Dwlee99 (2) :
Hated ; Hated


Not Voting (10) : Almost50 ; Dwlee99 ; Yuki Takeya ; The 2 Mastinas ; Gamma Emerald ; Skybird ; Enchant

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-11-19 15:35:15), it takes 6 votes to execute someone


(Dwlee99 hated stack was badly showed ftr)
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Post Post #2546 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:53 pm

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Honestly can't look at game without being angry, so i need to calm down. You also dodging my question completely, so i asking again to answer it.
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Post Post #2547 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:55 pm

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In post 2543, Morning Tweet wrote:I wasnt really under the impression i was PoE though, I more just thought that was your read

had i thought i was a viable mislim maybe i would have noticed

I feel just about as obviously in my town meta as i ever have, i exited it longer ago than i can remember. Like look at my post count. Scum terrifies me, and yes even multiball
I am sorry, MT, but I don't know your meta! If I did, it would most certainly help. I can read players much more easily if I know them.

Did you see the post that Gamma pulled up? Enchant and Taromarou never discussed her role. So how was she conftown to Enchant? And there are literally a million other little things that are just like that, and forgive me, but it seems to me that a player of your caliber would have picked up on that if you were town.

So to me, from my POV you don't have a town role pm.

town role pm <<< town motivation <<< town posting

and I just cannot understand how you missed all of that, and when I press you about your read on them you then, reference some games that I know nothing about and pass it off as a read. I am not even clear in what your saying in those posts.

And I really don't understand why you are getting so miffed about this.

There is also that Mastina and Titus both gut read you as scum, and that has weight in my analysis.

Is it so wrong that I just think differently than you? Because I agree with Mastina, getting aggravated with me misreading your role pm is NAI.
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Post Post #2548 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:59 pm

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getting aggravated in of itself isn't necessarily alignment indicative

Although i struggle to see why I would care about this game even slightly as scum. Obviously I dont expect you to know that and i wont hold you to it though
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Post Post #2549 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:00 pm

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UNVOTE:

Player of my caliber...?
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