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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:58 pm

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In post 74, ulyana wrote:like from my perspective, me and a scum going through is much better outcome then just a scum going through, so i would expect same to be true from your perspective and also true for any non-me town as well if able to identify
especially since like, at the very least holds accountability for whatever happens here, like if you (titus) are town, and sircakez saves ydrasse,

then wouldn’t it be preferable for you to also go through to say, ‘hey everyone sircakez saved ydrasse’ once flips happen and such - because otherwise if ydrasse/sircakez is scum/scum wouldn’t ydrasse just say the order was reversed from what it actually is and that i sacrificed myself to save her and that only one player could do so

which is believable because it’s based in the actual mechanics of the event, explains continued presence in game and would have the flips as support

the more i think about this the more confused i get

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if titus only scum here, is hoping no one saves, then can save herself, but this has issue of no backup plan for titus’s slot because if sircakez town then ‘maybe i’ll save ydrasse’ would be immediate threat to plan, so would be counting on either being saved for the accountability thing by looking like she didn’t want or just putting game in hands of heavened partner

if titus/ydrasse scum, titus playing off of sircakez saying might save ydrasse and then possibly additionally the accountability thing to get both partners through,

if titus/sircakez scum, then there would be awkwardness of having to carry through with actions here or go back on but! would look very unpartnered once flips are revealed if titus was able to get through because accountability thing

which i get in this happenstance would come down to my decision and it is like, why titus just completely fine with ‘let’s all no save!!!’ plan when sircakez is saying ydrasse should be saved and has the power to do so, as this would be very apparent problem for titus’s plan for either alignment titus but only scum titus would have incentive to not acknowledge problem with plan i think
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:24 am

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the best option would just be everyone in here dies but the rules of the event don't allow that to happen
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:25 am

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Titus and Uly trying so hard just makes me think they are scum
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:40 am

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In post 77, SirCakez wrote:Titus and Uly trying so hard just makes me think they are scum
? what exactly would be our team plan here?

like i’m trying because i am invested in the game and would like to not lose

and it is frustrating for me that you’ve seemingly made no effort to read me at any point and just say i am scum because i am trying? and before that it was for posts someone else made and before that it was not liking the way i react to things and literally none of these make any sense to me so it feels like you must be scum who just pushing me because have been but, like, it’s not like town has never done this to me before where they just decide i’m not town for whatever reason and ignore everything i say so i try to talk to you but instead it’s just ‘she scum for trying!!!’ which … like is the expectation for me to just not play the game i don’t understand
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:42 am

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right now it feels like titus/sircakez should both pass and will work out with ydrasse but obviously that’s not a choice i can make here on my own
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:43 am

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like do you really think my interactions with titus upon her entering the game were theatre? what would have possibly been our goal there…….
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:48 am

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In post 77, SirCakez wrote:Titus and Uly trying so hard just makes me think they are scum
also notable that ydrasse seems to be trying more this phase than recent phases and the same doesn’t apply to her?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:24 am

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what is your goal here Uly?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:24 am

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FMPOV Titus and you are trying to find some way to wiggle out of dying here and that seems scum-motivated
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:26 am

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like from what I'm seeing all of the suspicious people to the townblock are in here and so the best thing would be for everyone in here to die so that they can figure who the deepwolves are (if there are even any)
but we can't do that because of the event rule that scum can save someone so one person in here should be living and my strongest TR in here is Ydrasse by far so that's who I want saved and then everyone else can die
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:27 am

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In post 82, SirCakez wrote:what is your goal here Uly?
? my goal is to either be sent up or to find a town

like isn’t that only goal still don’t understand
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:27 am

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ok so you should understand why I find your push to save yourself to be suspicious
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:28 am

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In post 86, SirCakez wrote:ok so you should understand why I find your push to save yourself to be suspicious
how would save myself be suspicious
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:29 am

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like my alignment is known to me if i only one to go up then i 100% sure only town goes up
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:30 am

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so me being sent up is best outcome
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:30 am

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secondary outcome is to find a town but everyone not making that very easy either
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:31 am

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ok you say that but you're not seeing my POV
my viewpoint is that if both scum are in here then they literally HAVE to get someone out of here by any means necessary or it's GG
but if suspicious town are in here and they die it's not the end of the world and actually probably helps town with solving

so if the scumteam is Titus and you like I suspect than how much effort you're putting into not dying makes me think you're in the "must escape Hell" scum position
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:32 am

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like titus plan doesn’t make sense to me and you’re tying yourself to ydrasse and just flatly saying i am scum again
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:32 am

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In post 91, SirCakez wrote:so if the scumteam is Titus and you like I suspect
could you explain how this possibly makes sense with our play like I’ve asked multiple times and you just ignore
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:34 am

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i also don’t understand how both you and titus have this view of game as infallible townblock that sent you both here
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:35 am

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In post 93, ulyana wrote:
In post 91, SirCakez wrote:so if the scumteam is Titus and you like I suspect
could you explain how this possibly makes sense with our play like I’ve asked multiple times and you just ignore
i literally see nothing in here that makes me think you two can't be partners
ulyana wrote:i also don’t understand how both you and titus have this view of game as infallible townblock that sent you both here
who is the scum in the townblock then? and how?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:36 am

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In post 95, SirCakez wrote:i literally see nothing in here that makes me think you two can't be partners
and my interactions with titus upon her entering the game? you just think that was theatre?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:37 am

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In post 95, SirCakez wrote:who is the scum in the townblock then? and how?
i explained my feelings on gamma emerald at length towards end of last phase, also gave thoughts while interacting with taly throughout
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:38 am

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also other smaller notes of possible equity between players but it ends up very messy web when I try to work out
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:48 am

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also why would i have laid out what titus is possibly angling for with ‘no save’ plan if i was aligned with titus
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