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[Save The Dragons]

Pan: I acted scummy
Also pan: I'm scum reading the only person who's correctly scumreading me

Also pan: d1 actions cant be scummy

[Save The Dragons]

get lost uncharitable scum

[Pan Smierc]

Notice: I am still allowing you to engage and explain your own thought process and ellaborate

you are shutting me down and trying to avoid expanding or complicating your read on me - despite D1 being a low info gamestate.

This is an incredibly bad look for you - and a good look for me. Let's say - theoretically, I am scum and you are town - you are simple handing me an easy mislim in you by refusing to ellaborate or engage with me in good faith.
But if I'm indeed scum here - you can easily shut me down and restrict my pushes even more by responding and displaying your own towniness -> The choice is yours.

Now- I am town here and if you do show you are town I will probably shift my primary attention to Klick, who I believe is under the radar trying to look good > solving the game(I do not trust that their townread on me is genuine or in good faith - as their actions do not line up around it, as one would trust their townreads to an extent to not just shade them and hedge it)
Regardless, I digress.
StD, I know you're capable of analysis. And I have an ace up my sleeve meta wise that I have saved to respond with pending your response - I will bring it up for discussion pending your elaboration, something I know town!you is able to do.

[Save The Dragons]

Good luck with that

You wouldn't engage me earlier why am I supposed to engage you now

[Pan Smierc]

I am giving you this charatibility because you have a near 0% read rate towards my main. I have gotten you mislimmed when scum before too - but once you know who I am I will point out that I was simply very simple and very much like you are doing towards me, shoved actions = scum narrative at you to get you mislimmed.

I have laid out my thought process behind the actions you are supposedly claiming to be scummy - Why do you think I am lying/disingenuine?

[Pan Smierc]

Good luck with that

You wouldn't engage me earlier why am I supposed to engage you now

Because you are older than a toddler.

[Pan Smierc]

But if you'd like i can treat you like a toddler if you wish to act like one.

[Save The Dragons]

Maybe when I have a little more time I'll go into further analysis

My problem with you is you are all over the place

[Save The Dragons]

That is actually incorrect. I know who you are.

[Save The Dragons]

I've tred you correctly before

[Save The Dragons]

But if you'd like i can treat you like a toddler if you wish to act like one.

I dont remember playing with scum you but probably have. But I've played with town you and have been right about it. This doesn't feel right to me.

[Save The Dragons]

you are shutting me down and trying to avoid expanding or complicating your read on me - despite D1 being a low info gamestate.

You are guilty of this. I asked you an honest question and you called me scum

[Pan Smierc]

Ok well going in circles semantically trying to point out 1 small thing the other did or didn't do isn't helpful - I'm pushing that aside now myself.

I've had too many moments where I felt someone was way off their town meta and I was clown level incorrect - so consider that this may be a situation like that - its early into d1, be flexible.

[Pan Smierc]

What was the honest question? What likely happened was I called you scum for something other than the question - because I don't remember a question being part of my reasoning - and I likely either missed the question or deemed it unimportant, something I often do.

[Save The Dragons]

then please describe the actions everyone else on the why wagon took

[Save The Dragons]

You pinged me for lack of action but other people on the why wagon hadn't done much either iirc

[Pan Smierc]

I am currently scumreading Klick- who is part of it + it is a fair point I i didn't really give much thought to moz, but to be fair I cannot pay attention to everyone at the same time. I thought their entrance was tonally towny I believe and I sorta let it slide. I don't remember who else voted there and I think if it was ben I had reasons to townread them while with you, you had nothing that showed you as town.

I hope that's satisfactory.

[Pan Smierc]

I cede it's fair to believe from your point of view that I was being intentionally hypocritical towards you so I'll give you some space to breathe. You're putting a lot of energy into the thread though and that leans +town for me typically and with that kind of play it is easier to reeval later on energy shifts.
VOTE: Klick

[Pan Smierc]

man its actually really easy to be nice and not aggressive and try to communicate without being mean huh
i should try this more often

[DkKoba]

"I replaced in claimed weak vig and voted you

i thought i buried you but town did the work for me lul

And I feel the same about you - I think your start was a bit awkward to begin with in a way that was distinct from your town games and your insistence on policying was uncharacteristic when compared to, Charge Me Up! for instance where you showed a more holistic analysis of the board on D1 and had reads on several slots- and the fact that Not_Mafia was there too.

I'm point out these things so perhaps you can clear up the disparity if you may, not because this is a locked in thing that I am using against you - I completely understand each game is different.

Been a little tunnely lately and failing other than my Large Normal performance of catching 3/4 scum and PoEing the last one, so I'm a lot more patient/cautious so if you're reading me in good faith - that may be also part of what you're seeing + my fancy pants play of trying to sus out scum via traitor telling"

i had this typed up in a tab earlier but i forgor what i was gonna finish with so im just gonna hit send on the draft cuz i might as well share thoguhts i had

[Pan Smierc]

"I replaced in claimed weak vig and voted you

i thought i buried you but town did the work for me lul

And I feel the same about you - I think your start was a bit awkward to begin with in a way that was distinct from your town games and your insistence on policying was uncharacteristic when compared to, Charge Me Up! for instance where you showed a more holistic analysis of the board on D1 and had reads on several slots- and the fact that Not_Mafia was there too.

I'm point out these things so perhaps you can clear up the disparity if you may, not because this is a locked in thing that I am using against you - I completely understand each game is different.

Been a little tunnely lately and failing other than my Large Normal performance of catching 3/4 scum and PoEing the last one, so I'm a lot more patient/cautious so if you're reading me in good faith - that may be also part of what you're seeing + my fancy pants play of trying to sus out scum via traitor telling"

i had this typed up in a tab earlier but i forgor what i was gonna finish with so im just gonna hit send on the draft cuz i might as well share thoguhts i had

oh hey i mainslipped finally but yeah xD

[Pan Smierc]

not like I was subtle about it personality wise

[Save The Dragons]

I'll stew on it a little bit

[DArby]

Lmao and here I was interacting with Pan expressly with my experience with Koba and now I know why.

[DArby]

Well Koba and Norwe, but still.