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[Dwlee99]

No lim, we block three people that aren't mama ru while the entire player list gets checked by mama ru. If someone dies we have three "clears" (only not completely if we have 2+ scum left which if so jeez)

[Dwlee99]

I block cyrus. Loftwing blocks STD and Bingle. That leaves mama ru unblocked and STD can verify that Loftwing actually targeted him with the roleblock through the tracker result.

[Bingle]

To be clear, I'm absolutely OK with just limming cyrus and taking the L if this game was fucked from the start. I don't have the WIM to fight for optimal play here.

[Dwlee99]

This isn't that ridiculous to go for optimal

What WIM do you need here

[cyrus62]

I can block cyrus again tonight if we go no lim

Don't do it. I can jk don't waste my action . Jk someone else if your going waste my action I rather be voted off. Jk some else.t

also @ mod I unvote do my self and voted for no elim

[Loftwing]

What are you hoping to achieve here, with Ru investigating some more players?

In order for the role interactions to have worked out the way they did scum has to have fakeclaimed. Did I not demonstrate that? I'm pretty sure I demonstrated that.

Mqybe STD is our scum healer.

[Dwlee99]

Cyrus we only want to block three people total. We need Loftwing to block two people to block three and me to block one. If you block someone then you're not being blocked and I'd like you to be blocked over other people here. And if STD does have a result then we know that Loftwing didn't actually roleblock there, which outs Loftwing as having done the kill. But we also want for mama ru to get a result tonight so we don't block her.

[cyrus62]

Cyrus we only want to block three people total. We need Loftwing to block two people to block three and me to block one. If you block someone then you're not being blocked and I'd like you to be blocked over other people here. And if STD does have a result then we know that Loftwing didn't actually roleblock there, which outs Loftwing as having done the kill. But we also want for mama ru to get a result tonight so we don't block her.

You need to be blocked . I can block loft and std can track you . Ru can check you or loft tommrow you can block me and ru can check reminder. Becuse right now all you have to do is keep saying no kill. If all ru would get from you is jk muti task. There is no way of proving who's innocent. Ru checks loft ru gets dbl roleblock. Same thing bingel only gets cop or no cop. I guse bingel can check ru. But even then he gets cop or no cop if he gets cop same boat. Are best option is to remove the least useful roles which is loft since mine and your role protects and his just stops someone from doing a role. Doesn't prevent some one from being killed.

[Dwlee99]

Okay you block me then, Loftwing blocks STD and bingle. Mama ru investigates Loftwing/Cyrus

[Bingle]

What are you hoping to achieve here, with Ru investigating some more players?

In order for the role interactions to have worked out the way they did scum has to have fakeclaimed. Did I not demonstrate that? I'm pretty sure I demonstrated that.

Mqybe STD is our scum healer.

That'd be my second guess after cyrus, but you're the second most powerful role, which means you'd be a higher priority clear. It's not about winning fast if we take it the slow way, it's about making the marginally stronger decisions. And I think a theoretical scumteam of you/Dwlee wins more often than a theoretical scumteam of STD/anyone.

[Dwlee99]

do you seriously think Loftwing and I are teamed here

[Dwlee99]

How is that a thought you can entertain rn

[Dwlee99]

Need I remind you that day one was basically Loftwing calling for my head and me threatening to hammer him out of spite

And then day 2 he enters claiming to have roleblocked me but still is voting me

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Dwlee

Or I am town and genuinely do scumread Dwlee

scum claim LOL

VOTE: loftwing

anyway will probably vote enchant when the nature of the guilty comes but if someone is a vig shoot loftwing, thanks

Or me asking someone to vig my teammate

[Dwlee99]

In what world do these things happen to you

[Dwlee99]

If I was scum with Loftwing here we would hard deserve to win for somehow hard pushing each other multiple days in a row while other eliminations went through and me being consensus townread here

But in this scenario I wouldn't be proposing a plan where Loftwing and I could be insta outed if we made a kill instead of going with your idea of just flipping Cyrus

[cyrus62]

Okay you block me then, Loftwing blocks STD and bingle. Mama ru investigates Loftwing/Cyrus

Loft wing can block no one and std can check me . Ru can check loft . This will clear me. If a kill happens your still live. Std might catch it. Ru will know if loft is lieing bingel can check ru and clear her kinda. Rolecop could also be ww. But you would be clear and I would either dead or also cleared or std gets killed here. But you would at least be confirm town if a kill happens.

[Bingle]

do you seriously think Loftwing and I are teamed here

How is that a thought you can entertain rn

No, I think cyrus is the last scum and is openly flailing.

The whole point of the no lim idea is "What if I'm wrong as hell and this game is fucking insane?"

Note: the second safest option is eliminating me. That is because I am literally the only person in the thread who could theoretically have caused the mechanical issue without fakeclaiming. I could theoretically have not actually bloodhounded anyone, claimed to have bloodhounded enchant, and gotten enchant eliminated. This, of course, ignores all of the reasons I wouldn't do any of that, but it is a thing I could have done and so flipping me proves there is a scum player lying about their role.

Once we go into optimizations that fine, reads don't really have much to do with it.

(Also, I legitimately don't remember most of the early gameplay at this point, but you and loft having early antipartner-y vibes matches with me thinking you're both town now, so I don't really care about going back to read.)

[Bingle]

Okay you block me then, Loftwing blocks STD and bingle. Mama ru investigates Loftwing/Cyrus

Loft wing can block no one and std can check me . Ru can check loft . This will clear me. If a kill happens your still live. Std might catch it. Ru will know if loft is lieing bingel can check ru and clear her kinda. Rolecop could also be ww. But you would be clear and I would either dead or also cleared or std gets killed here. But you would at least be confirm town if a kill happens.

You realize that literally no one is reading your suggestions for night actions, right?

[cyrus62]

But let's s ee 5 tommrow if a kill happens 3 town 1 or 2 ww maybe. Would loft and ru make a better scum team no why would ru out her partner. Need I remind you there could be scum teams of 2 which means strange could be scum. With loft or dw.

[cyrus62]

Okay you block me then, Loftwing blocks STD and bingle. Mama ru investigates Loftwing/Cyrus

Loft wing can block no one and std can check me . Ru can check loft . This will clear me. If a kill happens your still live. Std might catch it. Ru will know if loft is lieing bingel can check ru and clear her kinda. Rolecop could also be ww. But you would be clear and I would either dead or also cleared or std gets killed here. But you would at least be confirm town if a kill happens.

You realize that literally no one is reading your suggestions for night actions, right?

yes you could be a joat bullit proof alien after all you said you were following west and agreeing with him.

[Bingle]

[Loftwing]

Cyrus is like the Anti Not_Mafia.

[Dwlee99]

We could lim Cyrus and double block STD or something like that

[Dwlee99]

I'm low-key worried there is a team of 2 left though so I'd rather no lim