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[cyrus62]

And duns last words were

[cyrus62]

My explanation for my vote:

I prefer eliminating Loftwing to Regrider

Hmm why did dun die. Either loft and strange killed dun or dun was driven in to enchant thinking it was loft.

[cyrus62]

My explanation for my vote:

I prefer eliminating Loftwing to Regrider

Hmm why did dun die. Either loft and strange killed dun or dun was driven in to enchant thinking it was loft.

In which case bingel not town was loft. Bingel lived becuse he hit loft not enchant. Loft claims he roll block ru and dw. Std wanted to know why loft visited enchant and why is ssbm dead and why ru was claiming they were role-blocked

[Dwlee99]

Yeah who was Bingle's doctor target N1?

[Loftwing]

Yeah who was Bingle's doctor target N1?

Bingle didn't use their Doc ability N1.

[Enchant]

Bah!

[Loftwing]

Enchant, please let me visit your grave. I grave the sweet release of death from this mortal coil.

[cyrus62]

Yeah who was Bingle's doctor target N1?

Bingle didn't use their Doc ability N1.

He stated he only had cop finder left. There for he used it.

[Dwlee99]

Yea I'll wait for him to answer

I should start tabling stuff

[Loftwing]

Yea I'll wait for him to answer

I should start tabling stuff

Dweelee, can you please read over Cyrus' Grand Fact that Owl, contrary to all current evidence, Bus Drove me and Enchant, instead of me and bingle?

[Loftwing]

So, there are a plethora of holes in your analysis here, cyrus. Let me point them all out for you.

god i hate this some else solve this for me

i'm a tracker.

i tracked loftwing to enchant.

1. why is loftwing alive if enchant is a PGO?
2. why did ssbm die if loftwing is a RB?
3. why did mama ru claim roleblock if loftwing didn't target mama ru?
4. i don't fucking know how bus driver works, so i guess loftwing got bus driven but if so, why am i so confused, is loftwing just straight up lying?

See this fits with what I said. Enchant admits to killing ssbm.

I think 2nd shows ssbm being visited.

If that were the case, then why didn't Save The Dragons just say "i tracked loftwing to ssbm" instead of "i tracked loftwing to enchant"?
This post is incorrect.

Ok, look, let me lay this out to you in standard form for logic.

1) Owl Swaps Loftwing and Enchant

2) Save The Dragons targets me.

3) If 1 and 2 are true, then Save The Dragons would be redirected to target Enchant.

4) Enchant visited SSBM

5) If 3 and 4 are true, then Save The Dragons would receive that their target visited SSBM.

6) Save The Dragons received that their target visited Enchant.

7) 5 and 6 are contradictory, therefore at least one of premises 1 through 6 are false.

Again if you visited enchant why did you live.

Nowhere in that post did I say that I visited Enchant. Nowhere in my ISO did I say that I ever visited Enchant. Please point out where I said that I ever visited Enchant.

god i hate this some else solve this for me

i'm a tracker.

i tracked loftwing to enchant.

1. why is loftwing alive if enchant is a PGO?
2. why did ssbm die if loftwing is a RB?
3. why did mama ru claim roleblock if loftwing didn't target mama ru?
4. i don't fucking know how bus driver works, so i guess loftwing got bus driven but if so, why am i so confused, is loftwing just straight up lying?

See this fits with what I said. Enchant admits to killing ssbm.

I think 2nd shows ssbm being visited.

5 states you didn't target ru.

coughs I ment 3 then he came out you were lieing.

Wrong. 3 states that Mama ru claimed roleblocked, and asked if I didn't do it, then who did.

My explanation for my vote:

I prefer eliminating Loftwing to Regrider

Hmm why did dun die. Either loft and strange killed dun or dun was driven in to enchant thinking it was loft.

If I killed Dunn, then how did I roleblock Mama Ru, or how did I also visit Enchant?
Also, Dunn had a nonvisiting role. More importantly, had I visited Dunn, Owl's bus drive would have failed on me, and by extension, Save The Dragon's track would have failed on me.

My explanation for my vote:

I prefer eliminating Loftwing to Regrider

Hmm why did dun die. Either loft and strange killed dun or dun was driven in to enchant thinking it was loft.

In which case bingel not town was loft. Bingel lived becuse he hit loft not enchant. Loft claims he roll block ru and dw. Std wanted to know why loft visited enchant and why is ssbm dead and why ru was claiming they were role-blocked

Owl did not bus drive me and Enchant. I don't know how this passed you by, especially because you're a member of the Mafia.
Since Owl did not bus drive me and enchant, Bingle would not have been redirected to me if they targeted Enchant.

Yeah who was Bingle's doctor target N1?

Bingle didn't use their Doc ability N1.

He stated he only had cop finder left. There for he used it.

If I say that I ate 5 cookies, it would not be reasonable to assume that I ate 5 cookies while my mouth was sewn together and also duct taped shut.
Bingle may have used his doctor ability at some point, but he literally could not have used it Night 1. If he did use it Night 1, then he could not have used his bloodhound to find anyone.

[Dwlee99]

Okay but why would I read that

[cyrus62]

Yea I'll wait for him to answer

I should start tabling stuff

Dweelee, can you please read over Cyrus' Grand Fact that Owl, contrary to all current evidence, Bus Drove me and Enchant, instead of me and bingle?

Wouldn't that place the not town on ru?

[Loftwing]

I honestly think that Cyrus is flailing here and being obvious scum, and should be killed ASAP. Any night plan we come up with should not include him, because he should die,

[cyrus62]

I'm trying help solve the game.

[Loftwing]

Bullshit.

[cyrus62]

I'm currently trying to find ways that owl could target every one night one. And how bingel lived after targeting enchant. And who killed dun . And also how loft lived after being tracked to enchant.

[cyrus62]

I'm currently trying to find ways that owl could target every one night one. And how bingel lived after targeting enchant. And who killed dun . And also how loft lived after being tracked to enchant.

I ment how owl lived night1 after targeting enchant.

[Dwlee99]

Is Cyrus solo scum or partnered with someone loftwing?

Feel like we are missing a kill somewhere both nights

[cyrus62]

Is Cyrus solo scum or partnered with someone loftwing?

Feel like we are missing a kill somewhere both nights

I blocked a kill n2

[Bingle]

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bingel who did you save and why?

I docced Ru N2 because she’d hardclaimed to be able to tell she was roleblocked on D2. I crumbed the ever living shit out of that so that if I flipped there’d be no confusion about whether I’d blocked someone.

[Loftwing]

I'm currently trying to find ways that owl could target every one night one. And how bingel lived after targeting enchant. And who killed dun . And also how loft lived after being tracked to enchant.

Why? Night 1 is solved, my guy.

Owl Swapped Me and Bingle.
Bingle Visited Enchant.
Save The Dragons (and presumably a protective role) target me, and get redirected to Bingle.
Save The Dragons, who is now targeting Bingle, sees that Bingle visited Enchant. It is important to note that Save The Dragons originally targeted me, and so thinks that they are seeing me visit Enchant.
(A protective role presumably targeted me as well, and was redirected into Bingle, protecting bingle from dying.)

We don't know who kill Dunnstral, and we probably won't know until the end of the game.

[Loftwing]

Is Cyrus solo scum or partnered with someone loftwing?

Feel like we are missing a kill somewhere both nights

I don't think it really matters here if Cyrus still has a living partner here. If there is still a living scum after we axe Cyrus, then I think there would only be one of them. If Cyrus has two living partners here, then we would be pretty much screwed anyway.

I think the total Kill Power at the beginning was 3 (+1), then went down to 2 (+1), then 2 (or 1, if there aren't any mafia left) to either 2 or 1 (if there are 2 solo scum, or just one)

I think if Owl is the only mafia member, and they chose not to kill but instead to bus drive Night 1, then we would get our expected deaths (2 deaths)

Sidenote, the +1 refers to the Alien Kill Power.

[Dwlee99]

Okay so the conclusion here though is that one of loft/STD/Bingle is scum, right?

Cause a doctor only protects loftwing if they're scum with them right? Or if they are swapping loftwing and bingle and are scum with bingle so protect loftwing to protect bingle

[Dwlee99]

And the doctor can't be me or mama ru cause we were roleblocked.