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[Dwlee99]

But what about my logic that says one of Bingle/loft/std is scum.

I mean I guess solo doctor serial killer could be a thing but why would a serial killer use the doctor instead of the kill and then fake claim even-night jailkeeper

[Loftwing]

I don't think it's possible for Loft to be last scum here, based on N1. Loft protective targets me -> Tracker shouldn't see Enchant. Loft protective targets Owl -> Owl can't self busdrive, tracker still shouldn't see Enchant.

Well, no. STD said they targeted me, which in turn means they targeted you, which means tracker would see that you visited Enchant.

[Dwlee99]

I'd like to go to the no lim option regardless, but I think STD should be the role cop check

[Loftwing]

So, here's a plan:

Dweelee Jailkeeps Cyrus (to prevent Cyrus from jailkeeping me in turn, and potentially allowing their potential scumbud from comitting murder.)

I roleblock both STD and Bingle.

This leaves Mama Ru to investigate whoever

[Bingle]

Well, no. STD said they targeted me, which in turn means they targeted you, which means tracker would see that you visited Enchant.

If you are the scum protective, then your action has to have ended up on me. You wouldn't have been able to self target, thus cannot have targeted me if the bus driver drove you and me, and thus a track on you wouldn't have gone to enchant. Thus if STD town Loftwing not sole remaining scum. Thus Loftwing not sole remaining scum.

[Bingle]

Dweelee Jailkeeps Cyrus (to prevent Cyrus from jailkeeping me in turn, and potentially allowing their potential scumbud from comitting murder.)

Theoretically, Dwlee and Cyrus should cross target, in case Dwlee is a second scum player, but yes.

[Bingle]

But what about my logic that says one of Bingle/loft/std is scum.

It's based on an assumption that scum wouldn't doc town, which isn't necessarily correct. It does seem reasonable, however, and that logic is why the option of eliminate Bingle is one that I keep bringing up.

[Loftwing]

It could also be that we're looking for a babysitter instead of a doctor.

[Bingle]

Well, yeah, but they're functionally the same at this point. Actually, babysitter would explain why they might target me over a partner.

[Loftwing]

I wonder if PGO is disabled if the player it's attached to used an action? I would presume not, but if it is then that could also solve what happened.

[Bingle]

Shouldn't be. PGO is a passive action, action limits only apply to active actions. A BP SK is still BP while killing.

[Dwlee99]

But what about my logic that says one of Bingle/loft/std is scum.

It's based on an assumption that scum wouldn't doc town, which isn't necessarily correct. It does seem reasonable, however, and that logic is why the option of eliminate Bingle is one that I keep bringing up.

Either way I think we go with my plan for no lim and role cop to find the doctor

[cyrus62]

Hmm as much as I wouldn't mind being locked up I think leavening loft free is dangerous for town.

[cyrus62]

Shame dw is only muti task jk. . If some one dies and dw and I are free then we both look like scum but if no one dies loft looks like scum. Btw bingel if you used all your actions then what good are you. I mean sure you can check ru but that doesn't prove any thing and std can check me and see I only targeted one person.

[Dwlee99]

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

[cyrus62]

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

You kinda brunt my trust last night..

[cyrus62]

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

You kinda brunt my trust last night..

It's like this scum either don't have any kills left or did a no kill to fake a guilty on me.

[Bingle]

This is mech soup and I dont eat a lot of soup

Tell me what to do and I'll do it

There are three options:

Safe option: find protective by repeatedly no limming until Ru can check every player. Lim me then Ru if no protective is found.

Slightly less safe option: Lim me to confirm that there is a protective, then see above. This loses if there are two scum and they successfully NK through whatever action plan we have to let Loft and Dwlee stop kills.

Slightly less safe than the slightly less safe option: Lim cyrus.

We pick one of these options, and then you target whoever you're told to target. I'm fine with any of the options, still.

But what about my logic that says one of Bingle/loft/std is scum.

It's based on an assumption that scum wouldn't doc town, which isn't necessarily correct. It does seem reasonable, however, and that logic is why the option of eliminate Bingle is one that I keep bringing up.

Either way I think we go with my plan for no lim and role cop to find the doctor

[Dwlee99]

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

You kinda brunt my trust last night..

It's like this scum either don't have any kills left or did a no kill to fake a guilty on me.

How is it burning your trust for me to jailkeep you

[cyrus62]

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

You kinda brunt my trust last night..

It's like this scum either don't have any kills left or did a no kill to fake a guilty on me.

How is it burning your trust for me to jailkeep you

Cuse you think I'm scum here . Not taking into account that scum could no kill.

[Loftwing]

The optimal outcome of tonight is that there is no kill, Cyrus.

[Dwlee99]

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

You kinda brunt my trust last night..

It's like this scum either don't have any kills left or did a no kill to fake a guilty on me.

How is it burning your trust for me to jailkeep you

Cuse you think I'm scum here . Not taking into account that scum could no kill.

well if they no kill we can repeat role copping. And if they do kill, then you, me, and the two people loftwing block will be conftown

[Bingle]

The optimal outcome of tonight is that there is no kill, Cyrus.

The optimal outcome of tonight is two scum cross killing to end the game, actually.

[Bingle]

well if they no kill we can repeat role copping. And if they do kill, then you, me, and the two people loftwing block will be conftown

Kinda nitpicky, but it is an important distinction: those people will be confirmed to not be the scum who killed. They could still feasibly be scum with someone else.

Dwlee and Cyrus jk each other. Std tracks loftwing. Loftwing blocks me and std. Ru investigates Cyrus, I think.

I’ll act so that if loft doesn’t block one of me/std they get caught by the action happening. That prevents loftwing/Cyrus or loftwing/dwlee shenanigans.

Any objections?

[Bingle]

I prefer Cyrus to std because Cyrus has less reason for us to assume he’s telling the truth and I’d like to fast forward this, if possible.