Slaughter Hour: Grand Debut | Hell

[SirCakez]

why would Titus suicide to save you? that doesn't make any sense. everyone would see her flip scum and find you immediately suspicious.

[ulyana]

why would Titus suicide to save you? that doesn't make any sense. everyone would see her flip scum and find you immediately suspicious.

because being suspected is better than being dead? like we can’t win game if we both dead and i could argue for being framed et cetera

[Ydrasse]

i think what cakez is getting at is titus pass -> potentially placate me and cakez to passing as well for some reason -> you give to titus so there's no way to send up 2? that's how i see it

[Ydrasse]

if the team was you/titus titus would... have to skip i think for fear of like, me/cakez instantly sending it on the other forcing a 1v1

[ulyana]

why would i argue against the pass at every turn and be encouraging not passing here then

[Ydrasse]

...for appearances? i mean if that's the plan you don't have to really say anything about it outloud or anything because you're last in the order so you can say whatever you want but you have the final action...

[ulyana]

if the team was you/titus titus would... have to skip i think for fear of like, me/cakez instantly sending it on the other forcing a 1v1

no? we would send me then say scum knew sircakez was going to send you et cetera and that i was there to be sacrificial lamb,

because, again, the other choice is death

[ulyana]

...for appearances? i mean if that's the plan you don't have to really say anything about it outloud or anything because you're last in the order so you can say whatever you want but you have the final action...

yeah how would that lead to sircakez passing? you’re saying our plan would have been to just lose to sircakez doing what he said he would do?

[Ydrasse]

i mean

sircakez heavily suspects you/did, so

if titus sent you instantly, i would assume he would send me up to like... have 2 people up there because he wouldnt trust your word which, in a 1v1 situation like that (assuming you were scum) one of us would be proven a liar since we would be saying different things about it

but if titus passes, and you have the final action and send titus? there's less risk that me or cakez send up one another to 1v1

[Ydrasse]

i mean, it wouldn't be for sure... he could have been persuaded to pass but i /think/ you being sent up by titus would 100% mean he wouldnt want you being the only person up there

[Ydrasse]

shiki, what town equity do you have / what do you think the towniest things you've done this game?

[ulyana]

i mean

sircakez heavily suspects you/did, so

if titus sent you instantly, i would assume he would send me up to like... have 2 people up there because he wouldnt trust your word which, in a 1v1 situation like that (assuming you were scum) one of us would be proven a liar since we would be saying different things about it

but if titus passes, and you have the final action and send titus? there's less risk that me or cakez send up one another to 1v1

??? if i were scum in that situation we’d just be saying the same version of events but i’d be saying it was scum’s plan to get me executed in that phase

which likelihood of working not great but better than death

[Ydrasse]

i don't think it's the same given the positioning that we're dealing with but w/e

[ulyana]

shiki, what town equity do you have / what do you think the towniest things you've done this game?

every post sorting taly or trying to work out duel probably if you want something specific

why you think i not town so suddenly?

[Ydrasse]

i'm not thinking you're not town, i was talking about cakez's viewpoint because i understood it and wanted to explain

and because it feels like you're treating me like an obstacle/enemy and saying "i am so town please pick me" and stuff and i want to see the reasons why you are town specifically, more than that, like, quote posts, what you think is towny, more than just saying "i know i am town please pick me"

[ulyana]

i don't think it's the same given the positioning that we're dealing with but w/e

you’d be saying titus sent me and i’d be saying titus sent me and so forth though I’m not really sure why we’re hashing out a hypothetical scum!me that doesn’t exist’s plan in a future phase

[Ydrasse]

like it feels like, fmpov:

i am trying to treat this like "do i want me or ulyana to go up /knowing i am town/ and am i willing to swallow this for the good of everyone"

versus how i feel you are treating me: "i am the town please please send me up oh please" and it feels really... weird because like... i know my alignment too, etc etc, but idk. maybe i just don't vibe with it being slathered into a ton of posts

[Ydrasse]

i don't think it's the same given the positioning that we're dealing with but w/e

you’d be saying titus sent me and i’d be saying titus sent me and so forth though I’m not really sure why we’re hashing out a hypothetical scum!me that doesn’t exist’s plan in a future phase

like statements like this are like /so/ lamisty "it doesn't exist" sort of thing i don't know how to engage with it

[ulyana]

like it feels like, fmpov:

i am trying to treat this like "do i want me or ulyana to go up /knowing i am town/ and am i willing to swallow this for the good of everyone"

versus how i feel you are treating me: "i am the town please please send me up oh please" and it feels really... weird because like... i know my alignment too, etc etc, but idk. maybe i just don't vibe with it being slathered into a ton of posts

because it’s what i have and i cling to it and if you really want me to explain that at great length i will but it’s not super game relevant

[Ydrasse]

(also fwiw i was trying to say /you would send titus/ in that situation but i didn't want to engage it anymore because it's pointless currently)

[Ydrasse]

like it feels like, fmpov:

i am trying to treat this like "do i want me or ulyana to go up /knowing i am town/ and am i willing to swallow this for the good of everyone"

versus how i feel you are treating me: "i am the town please please send me up oh please" and it feels really... weird because like... i know my alignment too, etc etc, but idk. maybe i just don't vibe with it being slathered into a ton of posts

because it’s what i have and i cling to it and if you really want me to explain that at great length i will but it’s not super game relevant

i want explanations of what you've done in game

sorry if this is harsh like

it's what you have, you know your alignment, but /we/ don't know your alignment and i am trying to feel okay with your alignment more than i do currently

[ulyana]

(also fwiw i was trying to say /you would send titus/ in that situation but i didn't want to engage it anymore because it's pointless currently)

can’t send titus in that situation ever because there’s no possible way to sell that as a frame

[Ydrasse]

...you can send titus and then no one knows what happened down here >_< and blah blah whatever, it's better odds than 2 people going up but it's really not important to dwell on anymore because it's currently situational and also not even your time to pick or mine yet

[ulyana]

i want explanations of what you've done in game

okay ask me about something and i will explain it that’s something I’ve been asking everyone to do

[Ydrasse]

i asked you like

what do you think the towniest things youve done are and i asked for quotes