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[Galron]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

[Dunnstral]

I'm town in forest fire

[Lukewarm]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87781 - Chromatic Ascension, Dunn was Knight Beige
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87638 - True Love
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83971 - Forest Fire

some (semi-)recent samples of lurkscum Dunn
there could be others from games I didn't keep tabs on but it's hard to verify how his posting rate measures to each game without doing some fancy shit I lack the time for

-GE

I'm not lurking in the first 2 games, I'm town in the last game.

omg. If you were town in Forest fire, that would eliminate the singular correct guess based on posting habits, and it will have been wrong in every single listed game lmao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD the bottom line is that Galron is a sure thing as far as I'm concerned and I would match rather lim the sure thing now than later? From the scumteam perspective Galron is already a dead man walking and I don't believe we'll get any worthwhile reactions from them if we keep him alive.

Limming him now means he isn't given another chance to steal from anyone and stifling Town power. Limming him now means scum is forced to perform the kill with someone else giving GL a shot at tracking another team member to the nightkill. If he somehow flips Town here, we at the very least have a fullclear on Skybird. All of these things I find far more advantageous than any potential decisions or manufactured reactions scum will make about a player who's basically already caught.

~Spiffy

He's not a sure thing from my POV though. The claim was hyper botched, I don't believe it, but it has all the markings of flailing newbie town in certain areas.

I feel like if Galron is town and we do this, we are in a terrible position. We learned nothing from JC and nothing from Galron, and we're down all our retaliatory night power.

Where as if we begin to take shots elsewhere and leave Galron one night, we open up other odds and learn more, and even if we're wrong and it is just Galron we don't lose much.

[Cephrir]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

was there a picture of your character in your role pm

[DeasVail]

Don't let the formatting fool you, I seriously do know something that other people don't know that indicates Juliet=scum.

I liked the joke, dw

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The problem LLD is that you acknowledge Galron is probably town but still want to eliminate me when I'm negative association with Galron. So you're playing for the 10% and not the 90%, and you don't seem to have a reason to be doing that or to think it's me.

I think Gamma's meta point backfired and he is arguing against himself.

Did you mean "probably scum"?

[Cephrir]

i wonder if i'm allowed to ask that

[Bowser Jr.]

I don’t think Galron is a newbie.

[Cephrir]

lemme back that up and find out if that's an ok line of questioning.

[Bowser Jr.]

LLD can you explain why you've settled on OTH, Ceph, and Dunn as the names you'd lim today?

PEdit: I'd argue that the fact that the Galron vote has been so contested means we learn a lot regardless of his flip

~Spiffy

[Off The Hook]

it's hard to verify how his posting rate measures to each game without doing some fancy shit I lack the time for

I did fancy shit because why not?

Spoiler:

So, I ran all three games that you linked as well as every game that I can remember playing with Dunn through the spread sheet. Calculated Dunn's percentage of all posts made day 1 compared to how many players were in the game, then did conditional formatting to color his higher post rate games green. (because you are positing that lurk dunn = scum dunn) to then see if there is any corrolation.

The conditional formatting guessed incorrectly 4 times, got it right 1 time, and then it did not give a result on his middle of the road game.

If anything, this is wrong more then it is right, and lurk Dunn = town Dunn.

well then

I did notice he had middling posting rates in a lot of his scumgames though and his posting does tend to ping as distinctly scummy when he is scum, and he's at least fitting that second bill imo
but tbh I think I wanna posit another question to

Galron

, which is: what's the shakespeare quote associated with your parity cop ability?

-GE

[Dunnstral]

The problem LLD is that you acknowledge Galron is probably town but still want to eliminate me when I'm negative association with Galron. So you're playing for the 10% and not the 90%, and you don't seem to have a reason to be doing that or to think it's me.

I think Gamma's meta point backfired and he is arguing against himself.

Did you mean "probably scum"?

yes

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD can you explain why you've settled on OTH, Ceph, and Dunn as the names you'd lim today?

PEdit: I'd argue that the fact that the Galron vote has been so contested means we learn a lot regardless of his flip

~Spiffy

Honestly because

OTH/Galron/???

and

Ceph/Dunn/??? are my like, scum concepts rn.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The problem LLD is that you acknowledge Galron is probably town but still want to eliminate me when I'm negative association with Galron. So you're playing for the 10% and not the 90%, and you don't seem to have a reason to be doing that or to think it's me.

I think Gamma's meta point backfired and he is arguing against himself.

Did you mean "probably scum"?

yes

Then I agree you have negative association but you're scummy individually, you have positive association with Ceph who is scummy individually and I am looking to shoot away from Galron anyway?

[Galron]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

was there a picture of your character in your role pm

Some red haried woman and a guy with a puffy skirt.

[Off The Hook]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

well like

i was curious since i remembered u claimed "rosencranz" so i do believe u didnt pick it urself since it was slightly spelt wrong.

i dont know much about shakespeare at all, but me and gamma both googled it and rosencrantz seemed kinda bad to me..
am i understanding wrong, or why does it say rosencrantz and their partner guildenstern are spys serving a "corrupt king claudius"

[Lukewarm]

OTH/Galron/???

Oh look, my current solve

[Dunnstral]

LLD can you explain why you've settled on OTH, Ceph, and Dunn as the names you'd lim today?

PEdit: I'd argue that the fact that the Galron vote has been so contested means we learn a lot regardless of his flip

~Spiffy

Honestly because

OTH/Galron/???

and

Ceph/Dunn/??? are my like, scum concepts rn.

From your point of view, if we want to follow your plan, it should make more sense to eliminate in the first grouping where Galron is scum, because you agree he is probably scum, rather than eliminate me who is likely not with Galron.

[Galron]

it's hard to verify how his posting rate measures to each game without doing some fancy shit I lack the time for

I did fancy shit because why not?

Spoiler:

So, I ran all three games that you linked as well as every game that I can remember playing with Dunn through the spread sheet. Calculated Dunn's percentage of all posts made day 1 compared to how many players were in the game, then did conditional formatting to color his higher post rate games green. (because you are positing that lurk dunn = scum dunn) to then see if there is any corrolation.

The conditional formatting guessed incorrectly 4 times, got it right 1 time, and then it did not give a result on his middle of the road game.

If anything, this is wrong more then it is right, and lurk Dunn = town Dunn.

well then

I did notice he had middling posting rates in a lot of his scumgames though and his posting does tend to ping as distinctly scummy when he is scum, and he's at least fitting that second bill imo
but tbh I think I wanna posit another question to

Galron

, which is: what's the shakespeare quote associated with your parity cop ability?

-GE

The only quote I have is "be not afraid the island is full of noises"

[Off The Hook]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

was there a picture of your character in your role pm

Some red haried woman and a guy with a puffy skirt.

neither of those seem like what I've managed to find via google search

VOTE: Galron
get xenoblade'd

-GE

[Galron]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

well like

i was curious since i remembered u claimed "rosencranz" so i do believe u didnt pick it urself since it was slightly spelt wrong.

i dont know much about shakespeare at all, but me and gamma both googled it and rosencrantz seemed kinda bad to me..
am i understanding wrong, or why does it say rosencrantz and their partner guildenstern are spys serving a "corrupt king claudius"

I didn't write it, and I never read it. I don't know.

[Cephrir]

galron whyd u pick rosencrantz

I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.

was there a picture of your character in your role pm

Some red haried woman and a guy with a puffy skirt.

ah, yes, rosencrantz, that character known for being closely associated with a female character.... (for clarity, this isn't the case)

well since this was answered anyway, i was wondering why you thought your character was female; he isn't

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD can you explain why you've settled on OTH, Ceph, and Dunn as the names you'd lim today?

PEdit: I'd argue that the fact that the Galron vote has been so contested means we learn a lot regardless of his flip

~Spiffy

Honestly because

OTH/Galron/???

and

Ceph/Dunn/??? are my like, scum concepts rn.

From your point of view, if we want to follow your plan, it should make more sense to eliminate in the first grouping where Galron is scum, because you agree he is probably scum, rather than eliminate me who is likely not with Galron.

I learn less and I don't cnosider them completely impossible to mix and match.

[Cephrir]

i dont know much about shakespeare at all, but me and gamma both googled it and rosencrantz seemed kinda bad to me..
am i understanding wrong, or why does it say rosencrantz and their partner guildenstern are spys serving a "corrupt king claudius"

i doubt flavor = alignment here.